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Google – and arguably free speech – has suffered another “memory hole” setback in its Canadian wrangle with kit vendor Equustek Solutions, and in response has begun taking down links well beyond Canada where the court case is taking place. As we reported in June, the court battle involves Google only incidentally. Equustek's …

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How dare Google be forced to remove pages from its search results! If someone has a problem with something on the internet, they should go to the original source to deal with it. Free speech, amurrica, activist judges not understanding the way the internet works, just an index, damn communist liberals, etc etc etc.

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So what happens if a US judge tells Goggle not to remove the links.

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@Tom35 - Re: Comment comment comment

That, my beautiful friend, is entirely Google's problem. They have enough money to figure out a solution.

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I guess they could take their search index database and go home. Then when the judges want to Google for their favorite porn and there's no Google, they'll kick up a stink and change the ruling.

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So what happens when a Chinese judge orders Google to forget about Tienanmen all over the world?

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You forget about Tiananmen all over the world.

(Then you forget about Lybian Liberation all over the world. Then you forget about Iraq all over the world. Then you forget about the world. It's like Philip K. Dick's "Eye in the Sky".)

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IIRC,

Google.cn doesn't know what happened in the Square at the Gate of Heavenly Peace, 25 years ago (was it really that long ago?)

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Google.cn does not exist any more. It is a simple redirect to Google.co.hk, which does know what happened; although getting an answer about it from mainland China will be difficult.

This article is however about removing a result from all versions of Google, not just in one TLD.

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What if any results related to "Equustek" were 'disappeared'?

One can't be too careful.

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One of the following

1) Google to remove Canada and all its references from its search engine (i.e. US laws rule OK)

2) Nothing apart from a few grumbles in the Press.

3) Tanks will start rolling north from the USA ( US Rules the World OK! and this just the excuse they need to remove that thorn in their side that is Canada)

4) Google CA gets placed into Liquidation by order of a Canadian Court who feel really miffed that their Bully to the south in interfering in Canadian Justice.

5) Something else not mentioned above.

I am joking - really Mr NSA.

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"So what happens when a Chinese judge orders Google to forget about Tienanmen all over the world?"

IIRC, Google subsequently left China. Which was quickly followed by Baidu's absolute dominance over that market.

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@Steve Davies 3

Actually, given that we have so many treaties with the US, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that ended up in a NAFTA court. Where US laws and Canadian laws conflict, Canadian judges don't tend to back down.

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"In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org."

Yeah, like that's going to stop anyone. With some expert handling of the google search parameters (I added "Datalink Technologies", shock, horror, who would have thought of that?!) I found their site, along with an interesting message that they no longer handle some Equustek gear. Clearly both sides are pretty pissed with each other. :-)

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but the links themselves are chilling, effectively

If I recall, from when I cared about searching for porn, following the chilling effects links took you to a document that had the links unumerated. I'll admin that they were sometimes quite long and hard to type in manually, but I figured that if they were listed in a quasi-legal document, then I was sure to find porn there.

I hope google does the same thing for those ***** who want their own history rewritten.

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Fairly pointless

The "we have removed x result(s)" serves as a handy prompt to try the search term again in the alternative search engine of your choice, which of course in this case reveals the supposedly offending links in all their glory. Something of a waste of time concentrating just on Google, then.

While it's tempting to relish the schadenfreude of Americans being on the receiving effect of grandiose extra-territorial orders for a change, if this habit spreads it could be very damaging for the rest of us. Search engines (and Google in particular) are being singled out because it's an apparently easy fix, rather than try to remove the actual material linked to or take action against the firm in their own jurisdiction. Dragging Google into it makes no more sense than globally ordering newspapers or journals not to carry their adverts, or parcel services not to ship the goods, etc.

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How do you take action against a company selling things internationally using the internet but which doesn't have a presence in your nation? For that matte,r how do you pursue libel or slander cases internationally?

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Security services at work here...

Because of it the web is as good as dead guys.

Any half wit could get round the blockade so they should be getting the ISP to block said web sites, not Google !

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What they should be doing is sorting out the problem between the two companies that are bitching at each other. Resolve that and no search engine, ISP or anyone else needs to be involved.

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They did resolve it and this company lost so it went overseas and uses a series of disposable websites whenever they get shut down.

Google's problem is that they originally said the Canadian court had to no authority to rule on them even in Canada because they were a US company. The court replied that it could order them to do whatever it wanted and hold any Google officer in Canada in contempt if they didn't

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In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 139 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

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