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back to article Say goodbye to landfill Android: Top 10 cheap 'n' cheerful smartphones

So, you want a smartphone but you don’t want to pay more than £150 (and ideally a whole lot less). You’re going buy a Motorola Moto G, right? Probably. The G is a very safe bet. But are there alternatives? Indeed there are. All the devices poked here with The Reg stick run Android bar one. That device will soon to get an Android …

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I have a Q10 but regret not buying the Q5 when carphone warehouse were selling them for £100 sim free. It has the same internals, it's the case that is different. Still a quality phone though. *sigh*

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Didn't realise that, so you can just replaced the outter bits and basically get a Q10

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The Q5 has a 5mp camera and 8gb storage built in. Q10 has 8mp and 16gb. Those are the only real differences between the specs (the keyboard on the Q10 is very very good though).

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Wot no Z10?

I'd have imagined when comparing touch screen only phones you must have at least considered the BB Z10. Same OS as the Q10-5 but touch screen only, making it comparable to the derth of 'Droid phones you compared.

Personally I think you should have frisbee'd the Archos* one right into the bin and kept the column inches for another BB.

*no one buys Archos anymore, they suck donkey balls. Its clear they are a Frenchese firm as they don't give 2 sheets about their customers.

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Re: Wot no Z10?

Z10 isn't budget territory, though.

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And Angela Merkel has swapped hers for a Q10, though the ones on sale here don't come with the voice encryption.

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Re: Wot no Z10?

The Z10 can be had unlocked in the US for $210.72 on Amazon which would put it in the league of this article (as £150 is $256.30) except that in the UK Amazon wants... £187.49.

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oh dear

and my ex-orange San Francisco is going strong. Funny thing, it does exactly what I want of it (and could do lots more than I don't)

- it makes and receives calls

- it plays music

- it comes with a gps and no longer updated offline mapping app (forgot the name). Shows maps.

- displays text (aka e-book reader). A bit small, true, but not too painful

- battery lasts a few days (and I can buy a cheap replacement, I bet, as it's removable)

A true customer from hell. With more people like this, the world of "progress" would collapse and we'd all be doomed. Hell, we'd probably still be dragging our feet undecided whether to step out of the caves to the open world of plain opportunities. Fortunately (?) most other humans are in the over-fucking-whelming majority of "proper" customers.

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Another OSF user here - although it has now been relegated to a bike GPS computer, and MP3 player, rather than a day to day phone. For £100 over three years ago, it was a damn good phone.

For offline mapping, OSMDroid is good - you can pay for it via google play, or get it free from github, or F-Droid (Open source)

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Re: oh dear

Used to have an AMOLED san francisco too. It's been donated to the parents. I'm rocking a Moto G now (1st edition, so no 4G or sd-card for me ;_;). I like to think I ride the sweet spot of price/performance.

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Re: oh dear

I still have my OSF. I use it for a backup should I need it, and it has come in handy on a few occasions over the time since I stopped using it for day to day duties. The only thing I've done to change it was to ditch Eclair and stick something a little more recent on it courtesy of CyanogenMod. It also gave me the opportunity to get away from the Orange shovelware, possibly the biggest aggravation of the OSF.

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Also happy ex-OSF customer here. Only gave it up for a Moto G when I wanted a newer Android and my daughter wanted a cheap smartphone. Didn't take much persuading mind.

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LG L90

I was quite impressed with the LG L90 I bought for a relative recently. Quite a bit of phone for 200 EUR, including microSD slot and a nice >2500mAh battery

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Once upon a time, Alcatel was known for making budget tat.

Hmmpf. Once upon a time, Alcatel was known for producing the highest quality fiber optic interconnects known to man.

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As a long time iphone user.

I had to run some mailserver migration and wanted a test phone that wasn't mine for the testlab, I picked up a Moto E for the job cause it wasn't expensive, and its a really nice device.

Compared to my iPhone 4, its not as nice (more plastically), but it is a lot better. Do I like nice more than better...

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No Lumia?

So, I find it pretty surprising that you'd do a review of cheap smartphones, but not include at least one of the cheaper Lumia devices.

I realise that there are plenty of Reg readers who aren't exactly fans of Microsoft, but plenty of people like WIndows Phone, and plenty of regular consumers have been buying low-end Windows Phone devices. The Lumia 520 easily fits into the £150 and lower price point of this article, as does the recently released 630/635.

This kind of omission is -frankly- a bit dodgy. I'm not necessarily claiming a bias here, but when you've got 9 Androids, 1 BlackBerry, and not a single Lumia despite there being several Windows Phones that fit into this price category, to not have a single one begs the question - why?

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Re: No Lumia?

I was about to say the same thing. El Reg spends a lot of time talking about how well MS is doing in this price bracket, in fact how they're only doing well in this price bracket - and has given lower-end Lumias very favourable reviews against similarly-priced Androids in the past.

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The Article is about Android Landfill disappearing and being replaced by decent low cost phones.

Nothing to do with Windows Phones.

The only reason the BB is in there is its ability to run Android Apps.

If a low cost Lumia could run Android apps it'd be there too

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Re: No Lumia?

Exactly - "low cost phones" not "low cost android phones". Maybe the title was simply ambiguous.

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The article also ironically states they're phones you can afford to lose down the beach.

What's the exact definition of landfill? Does it have to include an absence of sand?

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Re: No Lumia?

*Looks at the URL*

"product_round_up_affordable_android_smartphones"

Hmm..

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Re: No Lumia?

My dear friend there is no way to mention Lumia with a "landfill" header. Landfill is appropriate regarding WinTel but not allowed there either.

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I'll wait for the register to do a similar top-10 for other devices then.

I'll probably be waiting a long time.

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WTF?

75 bucks? WTF?

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For your 75 bucks you get a 4.5-inch FWVGA screen, a webcam, KitKat, a 1.2GHz

Then you quote the price as being £75....

So the new ElRef unit of currency is the buck where $1 == £1

The likes of Adobe etc will be grinning all the way to the Pub today saying 'The Register has caught up with us at last'.

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

Actually, the price of the phone is £75, but some retailers will accept 75 freshly shot adult male rabbits.

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

Or if you're into bigger game, they also except male deer. Preferably with horns still attached.

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

I think you meant "accept".

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

Or 75 Gil Gerards

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

"I think you meant "accept"."

Unless of course he meant that they don't accept them, in which case it would be correct to say they except them as a form of payment.

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

Your lack of up-votes in respect of Gil Gerard shows a distressing disconnect between geeks and classic geek shows :(

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

Not sure about the exchange rate on Gil Gerards unfortunately. Back in the day I suspect you could get a lot for your 'Buck' but these days he's looking more like Jabba the Hutt.

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

surely if he looks more like Jabba the Hutt you in fact get a lot more Buck?

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Re: 75 bucks? WTF?

I think you meant "accept".

In my shop I except all animal carcasses from the list of currency I will accept in exchange for consumer electronics. It gets you some bad online reviews but its a hit I am prepared to take.

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Avoid these phones

They are a waste of money.

1GB is not enough for memory-hungry Android. You will get continual app crashes (esp. with the likes of Firefox).

No microSD when storage is limited is an epic fail.

Buy a feature phone and then use that whilst saving up for a proper smartphone.

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Re: Avoid these phones

Actually, the Q5 has 2gb of RAM and a micro SD slot.

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Re: Avoid these phones

Despite being an avid user on Firefox on desktop I won't use it on my phone as no matter how much memory you have it crashes. I find Dolphin runs better.

I am quite lucky that my son isn't a stuck up little shit, so he is happy with phones at this level. He currently uses my old Xperia Arc, and will get my Z when I upgrade. For parents in a similar position to myself these devices are great for kids as if they do lose/break them its not a major drain on this months pay to replace them.

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Firefox runs fine on my Nexus 5.

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Re: Avoid these phones

Your Nexus 5 is a premium smartphone, not a budget item with limited RAM. It's not relevant to the debate.

My previous advice remains. Avoid budget smartphones, avoid Firefox.

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Re: Avoid these phones

I have a 1GB android phablet running KitKat... It's absolutely fine.

Of course if you're one of those people who feels the need to have 116 tabs open in your browser at all times you may struggle.

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Once you've gone Quad-Core, you'll never go back. For my money the only budget android worth entertaining is the Moto G.

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Yep, the Moto G is great.

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moto G v/s the xperia SP

or even the xperia ZR

don't forget the xperia ZR is water proof, has a quad core krait and adreno 320 along with 2GB ram and at current prices, it's a pretty good bargain.

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Only buy stock Android phones

Sadly all of these Android phones with the exception of the Moto E are destined for landfill long before they break. The reason is that because they run customized versions of Android they generally only ever support one version of Android. They can not therefore benefit from Google Security fixes such as the many that were introduced with Android 4.4 Kit Kat. I have a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 7 tablet which means that they will be supported by Google for at least 4 Years. The thing to look for over the next Year if you can not afford a Nexus phone is a Google One certified phone. In a Years time an Indian designed and manufactured Google One phone with stock Android will be a better investment than the Galaxy 6 or whatever Samsung is trying to sell you then.

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Sadly all of these Android phones with the exception of the Moto E are destined for landfill long before they break. The reason is that because they run customized versions of Android they generally only ever support one version of Android. They can not therefore benefit from Google Security fixes such as the many that were introduced with Android 4.4 Kit Kat. I have a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 7 tablet which means that they will be supported by Google for at least 4 Years. The thing to look for over the next Year if you can not afford a Nexus phone is a Google One certified phone. In a Years time an Indian designed and manufactured Google One phone with stock Android will be a better investment than the Galaxy 6 or whatever Samsung is trying to sell you then.

Yeah because the People who come to read this Site... Must therefore be to stupid to know how to surf over to the XDA-Developers Site, and run a search on any given Device here, to see if its

A) Rootable and

B) Has the ability to run a Third-Party OS ... i.e. AOSP/AOPK, CyanogenMod or OmniROM.

Face it every Phablet ever from the sub £100, to the brutish £500+ jobs are in the end "Landfill". You sure has hell don't see Samsung supporting anything older then the Galaxy 4 now do you? 'cause I don't! Besides I get the feeling that these aren't exactly what you call long term investments...

If I could get a modest Phablet year-on-year for this price range I'd for one welcome it. As to what to do with all those old Phablets.... Well thankfully there's Fleabay for that. which would actually hopefully make the new Phablet even more affordable. Assuming that such Devices wouldn't cut into that Market, since they would! And basically make the damned things less then worthless... Landfill filler...

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Re: Only buy stock Android phones

You make the crucial mistake of believing the ordinary folk that buy these things actually care about updates.

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Re: You sure has hell don't see Samsung supporting anything older then the Galaxy 4 now do you?

Actually, just got the OTA upgrade to KitKat on my S3

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Re: Only buy stock Android phones

Not all phones can be rooted/upgraded with a custom ROM. Especially at the budget level.

Most budget phones ate worthless. Most OEMs are useless at providing OS updates.

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Yeah! Like my Asus Fonepad 7, shipped running bleedin' Android 4.1 with *HORROR* some manufacturer written apps and a small amount of customization, Damn Landfill!!!

Oh wait, it over the air updated to 4.3... And then 2 weeks ago it over the air updated to 4.4

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I have a Prestigo Rainbow

Actually called a Wiko Rainbow here, same name, shape and price and coloured backs, but a different name label on the box... .but the specs do not seem to be what I have in mine. 2000 mAh hour battery, 5 inch screen, very average camera, check all that, 4 gb fixed storage, 1 gb RAM, SD card slot, but mine runs a quad core MT6582 chip up to 1.3 Ghz and it does support host USB, as I was watching vids on a usb key on it on a recent trip, without having to install any 3rd party apps à la Nexus 7. I'm quite impressed with it, especially for a 140 euros (120 quid) phone. Battery life could be better, and I do miss the real keyboard that I had on my Blackberry, but all in all, better network reception than the BB, battery life is OK (no Facebook app installed though, just use the much faster mobile site) and seems to digest any app that i throw at it, and seems nippier than my Nexus 7 tablet. Very happy about performance and especially happy about the price!

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For those of us, whos pockets are bursting because of too big phones, could you compile a list of the smallest phones? I would highly appreciate it.

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