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A French entrepreneur is hoping that by 2015, those with €100,000 in spare change will slip the surly bonds of earth aboard his Vaylon Pégase (Pegasus) flying car. Artists impression of Pegasus in flight. Pic: Vaylon La voiture volante. Pic: Vaylon Jérôme Dauffy's vehicle is actually a powered paraglider concept, with the …

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Aaaaargghhh, my eeeeeeears!!

Wish they'd spent some of that cash on a decent soundtrack for the video.

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Needs work

Propeller needs a cage, like an airboat's. The tires are too narrow for any real use on sand.

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MJI
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So when you saw Pegasus who first thought of ....

The famous jet engine.

That is what went through my mind when I saw the RSS feed.

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That's awesome and I want one.

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...moi aussi!

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Me too

But it would be even sexier with a flat bottom à la fanboat

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Anonymous Coward

... moi kiwi!

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...moi aussi!

What has you being Australian got to do with it?

Yeah yeah, I'm going...

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Re: ...moi aussi!

You should go too.

The Kiwi is a New Zealand boidie, not an aussie one.

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We did it first

Parajet did this a few years ago. Exactly the same pretty much.

http://www.fly-skyrunner.com/

stu

(paramotor pilot)

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Re: We did it first

Yours looks cooler.

I'm still not going to complain about which one I get though.

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Re: We did it first

Since 2009!

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Re: We did it first

Yours has decent wheels too. Nice!

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Costs

I would be very, very interested to see what the French government wants to get for their €60k contribution. The French aren't stupid, I wonder who this guy is married to.

You can't even test the tires for that kind of money, much less all the other stuff that breaks when you hybridize any two things that are substantially different. My lion-horse hybrid was a disaster. Of course the lions are going to be angry if they have to chase something down to mate with it. Stupid horses.

In seriousness, I used the tire testing example because we've designed tire testing rigs for a few tire manufacturers and it is really, really involved. They've got use specific criteria that I wouldn't have considered in a million years (that's probably why we don't make tires...). But there's a lot more to them than some steel belts wrapped in rubber.

If a vehicle like this is something somebody wants then this guy has my best wishes. I'm fairly positive his price point is really, really low though. It's a bit of a joke, but if you 'flying' to anything there's a default cost multiplier of 3,553,221 to everything involved.

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The French aren't stupid. Since when?

As for testing tyres, who cares when the wheels will collapse on the first rough landing. Ask any mountain-bikers. Spoken wheels don't do rough landings.

On the positive side, if the French are in it when it collapses on landing, they can just hop to their destination !!! See what I did there ;-)

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MJI
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Spoked wheels

Seen enough scrambling to know spoked wheels are fine (now called motocross)

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Re: Costs

I have now officially developed the ability to detect a Don Jefe comment within a few lines without checking the poster's name. In this case I realized it when I got to "lion horse hybrid".

If I drank, I'd raise a glass to your commenting, Jefe - well done, sir!

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Re: Costs

> Ask any mountain-bikers.

Mountain and trials biker here.

> Spoken wheels don't do rough landings

What do you think we use then?

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Re: Costs

@AC, Since they figured out that running away from the bullets and blockading calais tends to get positive results for the French.

One good example: They dropped out of the Eurofighter program early on and built their own Rafale instead. It came out lighter, more manoeuvrable, more versatile, capable of carrier service from the start, cheaper and was flying sooner - and they didn't have to faff around waiting for guns to arrive after the plane was officially in service.

They know their stuff, the French.

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Re: Costs

You mean they are proud enough to not sell out. It's strange times though. Eventually even the French will sell out.

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MJI
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Rafale

Slower, slower rate of climb. not as good RADAR.

That said the Eurofighter is basically the BA EAP, and the EJ200 is basically a Rolls Royce design.

In otherwords would the Typhoon have been better if we had gone on our own?

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Re: Costs

The €60k contribution plus probably about the same amount of money for checking the guys calculations is almost indistinguishable from zero in the arms industry context. Seems good value for money for checking out the feasability and capability of the concept; if it flies and lands a few times without killing the guy then much more work will of course have to be done.

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M7S
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A better flying car

http://www.aeromobil.com/#url-specification

Have a look at the video http://www.independent.co.uk/video/?videoid=3061425677001

Looks better than the Terrafugia

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Re: A better flying car

I am liking the PAL-V concept. although the Terrafugia 2.0 concept looks pretty slick as well.

I am actually a bit disappointed in El Reg's Flying Car Desk, as there have been many updates in this field with more promise than this article(and far more than Moller's works), with little to no mention. I was beginning to wonder if they had closed that desk (cutbacks, you know).

Flying Goggles -->

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> Looks better than the Terrafugia

Not... all that... difficult to do, frankly. This aeormobil thing is at least a little bit swoopy. I'd prefer a jet-belt, though, as it's more *cough* portable.

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Looks like...

a Nod buggy.

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Looks lethal

Imagine one of those parachute wires getting caught in a nearby tree. I don't see any advantage of this over, for example, an autogyro.

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Re: Looks lethal

I'll race you over the ground in somewhere like Afghanistan or North Africa in Little Nellie

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Cool idea

I don't see it being very practical though e.g. how long would it take to fold up that massive parachute after landing? What happens if it's raining or windy?

Since it's slower in the air than on the ground (and slower depending if the wind is behind) so it's probably most useful in areas without an adequate road network, or where there are perhaps rivers or other natural obstacles to cross. Maybe it would be useful for some kind of "flying doctor" type role.

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Tyres?

And those skinny, presumably weight-saving, tyres would be how useful exactly on soft or dodgy terrain? Just curious, I have no experience to bring to bear, but it seems a bit daft to fly yourself into somewhere only to end up hub-deep in the sand...

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Re: Tyres?

If the vehicle is light enough you just lift it out.

A big advantage a 2CV has over a HumVee

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I'm thinking a Caterham 7 kit car

and about 10 grand of Big Foot suspension and maybe another 5 for the prop add on and you're up up and away for 1/2 the money.

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They've missed a trick

If it's that light, why oh why didn't they give it a decent lightweight hull as well and make it so it's amphibious as well (Ok, the frenchies don't need this but for the rest of us...)

With air sea and land capability they'd probably more than double their potential sails (pun intended.

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When they get rid of that fan...

...and I can hear the music playing, and not have to communicate by shouting really loudly.

THEN I'll buy one! : )

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Re: When they get rid of that fan...

Well you can replace the fan with a rocket I guess. Good luck with the music...

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It's been done

Parajet, a British company, did this ages ago. They did a 6000km 42 day test flight in the first prototype. It looks better than this French thing too. An added bonus: 0-62mph in 4.3 seconds on the ground!

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Paragliders suck

Paraglider canopies suck for any sort of long distance flight. They lack penetrating power when flying against the wind. The single seat paramotor units already have a hard time with a 5 knot headwind. I've seen one trying to get into a 10 knot headwind, with full power, and barely have any forward groundspeed at all. Also, good luck taking off in one with ANY sort of cross wind component!

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This looks suspiciously like the Parajet Skycar (or Skyrunner now I guess). They've been taking preorders for years. So far as I know that one was the first practical 'flying car' yet no one ever seemed to be talking about it, even after they made a successful trip of over 1k miles in it. That and last time I looked they were taking preorders at half the price of this one.

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"Enterprising French chap"? Missed opportunity..old chap!

I would have gone with "Bauphin".

Sacre bleu!

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I vote PAL-V ---> ~~~

I liked the PAL-V better! The article video was stupid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHSaNtAMjs

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Another vote for the Skycar

British, works, got there first, no apparent support from the Government- just from good Engineering!

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