back to article NYPD dons Google tech specs: Part man. Part machine. All Glasshole

In the first step towards the future of law enforcement, New York's police department is beta-testing Google Glass to give its officers instant access to crime data. Just like the Terminator can analyse prospective Sarah Connors with a mere glance, the NYPD is hoping that the tech specs will allow cops to walk into a room and …

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The old trick of yelling "OK Glass, SafeSearch off, Horse Porn" could prove invaluable for getaway drivers.

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Eventually there will be discrimination legislation introduced to make it an offence to make fun of the google glass minorities who wear the things. In an attempt to prevent hurt feelings it will enable the courts to jail anyone who utters the words 'look at that knob-head wearing those things.

It will be deemed the same as any form of racism , genderism etc etc.

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Lawsuit

Repetitive Strain Injury.

Give it a couple of years and watch for all the lawsuits against the state by state officials who were forced to wear these things that,

A. Caused the person to injure themselves while being distracted.

B. Cause a third party death by running over them while distracted while driving to an emergency and killing an innocent passerby.

And the biggest one

C. Causing long term eye damage, headaches, and brain cancer to the employees forced to wear them.

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Re: Lawsuit

brain cancer to the employees forced to wear them.

Given the target audience, brain cancer is not going to be an issue. What isn't there cannot get ill.

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Re: "The old trick of yelling...."

That's an old trick already ?

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Re: "The old trick of yelling...."

It's a few months old. In Twitter terms, only dead people remember it.

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@AC Re: Lawsuit

Yup,

But not for the reason you think...

Suppose a glasshole police were to look at you, and from facial recognition determine you're a dangerous homicidal maniac. The cop arrests you and then detains you even though you can prove who you say you are...

That would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Then there is the issue of bad data where the glasshole determines that there's an outstanding warrant for you...

While the officer could claim 'good faith', the city would lose the case.

The only benefit would be that each police officer would be a walking CCTV.

Of course Google likes this because they will get all of the data to better market things to you...

So the next time a bunch of adult based entertainment pops up on your screen, it will be because some glasshole happened to be walking down the city street and glance at you as you come out of that adult bookstore....

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Re: @AC Lawsuit

Not for the reason YOU think either: The cops see "dangerous homicidal maniac" flash up and they will go straight to the fairly well documented* "Unload Magazines"-routine; if you are a blind octogenarian in a wheelchair, they will cap you, your pet, and a few bystanders with impunity - and get away with it too!

*) Soon, there will be a "Replace Police Officers With Armed Hoodies"-routine in all of the surveillance cameras.

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A new take on shouting 'Xbox...' whenever I enter the living room, just to piss off the kids :)

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In other news, Charles Stross is prescient

see Halting State, a near future SF police procedural set in a recently independent Scotland, where the police are equiped with AR glasses that, among other things, do exactly what this article describes.

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You can identify the bad guys immediately within seconds

Presumably he would be the one with the gun?

The good guys would be the ones who would give you the chance to wait for the egg timer in your eye to disapear before shooting at you?

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Re: You can identify the bad guys immediately within seconds

Sounds like a huge invasion of privacy and has some big data protection implications... Oh, wait, we are talking about the USA here, so no worries there.

Hopefully it will blur out the faces of anybody in the room who hasn't signed a data protection waiver.

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Re: You can identify the bad guys immediately within seconds

> You can identify the bad guys immediately within seconds

I note that nowhere in the requirements it says to identify them before you shoot them.

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You just can't stop progress

The way things are going it won't be too long before GG is built into riot police's helmet visors.

Citizen,!! .,,, you have ten seconds to comply........ 10 ..... 0

Zrrrg!!! poof

or

smack, smack

(depending on facial scan results).

Hope there aren't too many false positives.

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Re: You just can't stop progress

Citizen,!! .,,, you have ten seconds to comply

Or, if they're running Windows

9 seconds remaining

8 seconds remaining

75 minutes remaining

45 seconds remaining

1 minute remaining

...

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Re: You just can't stop progress

I laughed at this, but only because this morning the satnav told me I was going to be 68 minutes late unless I took a diversion (along a road I knew to be blocked by fallen rocks), and then suddenly changed from 66 minutes to 11. The thought of a 55 minute long traffic jam suddenly evaporating reminded me of the old Windows and Mac file transfers which acted just as you describe - though it was one iteration of Mac OS that used to go from 1 minute remaining to about 2^30 hours remaining.

Or, to put this whole thing more succinctly, I really doubt that the network will deliver the performance that the NYPD would need. More like, as the unfortunate policeman reaches ER, the search will reveal that the guy who knifed him thirty minutes before was a known drug dealer.

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Re: You just can't stop progress

Or, if they're running Linux it'd count down then find that the driver for the weapon was compiled for a different kernel version?

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Windows Cliipy + Google advertising.

It appears you are in a high speed chase. Would you like me to;

Call for backup with GPS coordinates?

Give you directions to the nearest Dunkin' Donuts Drive-Thru?

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In a crowded place

So the cop walks into Times Square or a similarly crowded area, and the system either overloads and melts, or just spams his vision enough to be useless at best, and a safety issue at worst?

Plus I didn't think Google Glass came in a mirrored shades version yet? Or will that be a special police sunglasses edition?

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Haha, why not Robocop?

No, really, Robocop had the HUD too with perp detection and so on...

... Not Terminator. He had it, but not for a strict crime prevention tool, more of a combat effectiveness and situational awareness tool. Cops shouldn't be comparing themselves to Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal.

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

Cops shouldn't be comparing themselves to Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal

.. but WAY more fun. "Uzi 9mm" tends to be a tad more effective at intimidation :)

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

I'll be back... /Arnie ...my batteries are dead.

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

"Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal"

According to the NSA..

"Terminator operates within the legal framework - since it's a machine and the people who programmed it haven't done so yet. Also, setting an autonomous killing machine loose on an intended target seems perfectly reasonable to us. Does he come with a stealth mode?"

I only wish I were joking, in fact I'd rather just ----------------->

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

"setting an autonomous killing machine loose on an intended target"

You don't need fictional characters as examples - bounty hunters pretty much fit this description and they are very real.

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

bounty hunters pretty much fit this description and they are very real.

I know the far superior dark chocolate ones are a lot harder to get hold of than the milk choccie ones, but I didn't realise that the search had gone to this extent! No wonder I can't find them in my local newsagents any more...

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

"Cops shouldn't be comparing themselves to Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal." -- At the moment I could argue either way on that one.

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

"Cops shouldn't be comparing themselves to Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal."

Wouldn't it be a combatant? Else, a machine - and machines cannot be condemned.

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Re: Haha, why not Robocop?

> Cops shouldn't be comparing themselves to Terminator, who was, himself, a criminal.

That's OK, laws can be changed.

Lord knows, copying files or watching your legally bought DVD on Linux is apparently a criminal offense these days. Going back in time and killing a officially classified dangerous subversive is small potatoes.

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Not allowed surely?

I thought the TOS for Glass specifically forbade face recognition apps? (a shame for anyone using it, as virtual name badges would be fantastic, but good for privacy for everyone else).

Do the NYPD get an exemption, is someone enterprising in the force sideloading apps?

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Re: Not allowed surely?

Private stores... Private stores and side loading mean that they can do pretty much what they want. Corporations have been able to have corporate stores for iPhone and Android for ages, which bypass all T&Cs for the official app stores.

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Re: Not allowed surely?

I am looking for Cyanogenmod for myself

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Coming soon, privacy masks

A full face mask with a thin HD screen that shows the world your preferred avatar face, complete with voice and lip sync.

Plus built in G-Glass equivalent, phone and music/video player.

Also displays (rude) messages when in the proximity of annoying people, CCTV, et al.

See icon.

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Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

Coming soon: Laws to prohibit you from disguising or concealing your face...

... oh, hang on, they're already here...

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Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

"Laws to prohibit..already here"

Are they? Can you point me at the relevant info? I seem to be ignorant of this particular law.

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Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

See A Scanner Darkly, it had a suit that disguised who you are.

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Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

Depending on the country, that's already forbidden. E.g in France, it has the amusing and completely unintended effect of banning Muslim-type face veils.

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@Sir Runcible Spoon - Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

60AA Powers to require removal of disguises

(1)Where—

(a)an authorisation under section 60 is for the time being in force in relation to any locality for any period, or

(b)an authorisation under subsection (3) that the powers conferred by subsection (2) shall be exercisable at any place in a locality is in force for any period,

those powers shall be exercisable at any place in that locality at any time in that period.

(2)This subsection confers power on any constable in uniform—

(a)to require any person to remove any item which the constable reasonably believes that person is wearing wholly or mainly for the purpose of concealing his identity;

(b)to seize any item which the constable reasonably believes any person intends to wear wholly or mainly for that purpose.

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Read out the IR portion of the spectrum

Compare to IR portion of mugshots. Masks don't hide much when cool and are uncomfortable when on fire.

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A scanner darkly

better still, read it.

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Re: Coming soon, privacy masks

Makeup to fool face recognition is effective, at least against the native OpenCV cvHaarDetectObjects().

Examples: http://www.geekosystem.com/anti-facial-recognition/, http://cvdazzle.com/.

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Re: @Sir Runcible Spoon - Coming soon, privacy masks

"...those powers shall be exercisable at any place in that locality at any time [...] to seize any item which the constable reasonably believes any person intends to wear wholly or mainly for that purpose..." - So basically you're saying a cop can at any time come into one's house and procure himself unlimited gimp masks for free...?

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GG really does have the potential to be a life changer. iPhone is a piddly medal from the noughties.

Glass will change lives. Welcome to the twenteens!

Glasshole or not, its not as bad as being seen with iPhone (gfar).

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No, it's far worse.

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Life changing injuries subjected to random people by glasshats watching videos and TV shows while driving.

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Being seen with any mobile phone in the 80s was a No no.

Being seen 10 years ago with a smartphone in public was a no no.

In-ear Bluetooth still makes you look like a dick, unless they look like earphones.

Eventually this technology will find a way of looking normal instead of horrendous.

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So, NYPD is crash-testing Glass in the field

I'll be interested in hearing just how long those things survive in the streets in such conditions.

Methinks not long.

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So they'll be testing facial recognition, but not testing to see if it's viable to use it to record encounters with the public? NYPD REALLY don't like being on camera.

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Quite. If cops have cameras attached to their faces all the time when on duty, then that should be recorded, stored and made accessible to all pertinent parties.

For instance, if you are arrested or searched by an officer, you or your attorney should be supplied with the footage from all officers who arrested/searched you.

If misconduct complaints are raised against an officer, this system should be made available to review their actions in the period in question.

If they roll out this without doing any of these things, it would be a sham. I have no problems with honest upstanding cops, but they are public servants whom we give a great deal of power, their actions should be accountable to us. Too frequently when one cop does something wrong, the rest clam up and cover ranks, they should be gagging for a system that records precisely what events occurred.

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Would this not encourage crims to take more shots, whether via a bullet or a fist, at the coppers faces to disrupt the evidence recording tech?

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"disrupt the evidence recording tech"

Many years ago, working on tank sights, I speculated that you could make a very effective air burst charge using inkjet printer ink, that would cover any surface in a cone in front of it with opaque black ink that would resist windscreen wipers. I am sure that something like this could be developed as a recording camera disruptor - non lethal, but effective.

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