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This was the week when remote access app LogMeIn pulled its free version, uniting freeboards in a resounding cry of "Hell no! We don't pay for stuff on the internet!" The app may not have had quite the poor reception to its announcement of going from free to not-free if it hadn't a) been providing its service gratis for TEN …

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yeah, the candy crush thing to me is ridiculous. The last two comics on penny-arcade, and another comic on CAD both sum up my thoughts on the candy trademark thing pretty well. Would post links, but I'm at work.

As an over exaggeration, it'd be like nintendo trademarking use of italians in games because they had mario first. Bye bye assassins creed. "But they had an italian in the game, and the second game DIRECTLY REFERENCE MARIO!"

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Candidiasis

Its all a bloody typo - Candy Thrush is what they mean!

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So, a rival can't call themselves

Can't Believe It's Not Candy

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Candy IP Infringement...

Do they mean the game - because it looks an awful lot like Tetris to me or the pay to advance levels - which i am sure existed well before they did.

So basically they have built their business of other peoples ideas. A lot like Samsu^H^H^H^H^H^H several other companies i could mention.

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Re: Candy IP Infringement...

Looks just like a jazzed up Bejewelled to me. Even that wasn't particularly original - I had various 'match three things with extra bonuses if you can match more' type games way back when my main PC had a 286 processor!

They're only really claiming IP on the name 'Candy' - but they're not the first to use it. According to Wikipedia, Candy Crush Saga was released on 12-April-2012. A bit of googling reveals that Popcap released something called Candy Train for the iPhone in May 2011 with some reviews calling it a 'long forgotten classic' so must have been around some time before that.

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Just an additional thought about log me in.

Just as an aside - i was recommended Team Viewer on here, and its awesome, thank you all for that.

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Re: Just an additional thought about log me in.

Team viewer is blooming useful, I use it to help the extended family out and take control of PC's. I have have lots of problems with Windows Remote Assistance and Team Viewer just works.

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the app name was what now?

"All Candy Casino Slots – Jewels Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land"

Well actually that's an app store rejection without anything to do with candy, because the icon and real name isn't that.

It's gaming the app-store keywords and should never have been allowed by apple in the first place :)

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Re: the app name was what now?

That was my thought too. Regardless of the asshattedness of King trademarking CANDY, hsu is obviously a complete chancer looking to cash in on searches for any similar game rather than coming up with a good name himself - even King managed to avoid using the word Jewel when they ripped off bejeweled.

In short both entities involved are tossers. King merely got there first and took it to a higher level of tossery-ness. Hsu is merely penny-ante third rate copy artist - King have the saving vice of being complete megalomaniacs and first rate copy artists.

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Re: the app name was what now?

Nonsense - that's a perfectly cromulent word (in German).

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Re: the app name was what now?

"All Candy Casino Slots – Jewels Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land"

Every time I read that I think it's somehow related to the doge meme, e.g.,

All Candy Casino Slots. So jewels. Many big blast. Wow.

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Is anyone surpriesd that they are tossers?

Their business model relies on giving away as closed-source gratis software a game which posts your achievements on the Internet for all to see, and offering players the chance to cheat by paying real money -- as in actual pound notes -- to buy progression through the game.

That has SCAM written right through it like a stick of Brighton rock. It's a straightforward appeal to vanity combined with a nickel-and-dime job. Motivated by a burning desire to beat your friends' published scores, you spend small amounts of money at a time to cheat your way through an utterly pointless game.

That is exactly the kind of project that non-tossers wouldn't get involved with.

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Re: the app name was what now?

much upvote

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Re: Is anyone surpriesd that they are tossers?

They may be tossers for various reasons, but you don't have to post your achievements on the internet (you can play without connecting it to Facebook if you want to) and apparently you can, if you so wish, get to the end of it without paying a penny.

But, since the days of the arcade games of the late 70's, hasn't the point been to get you to spend money and try to beat your friends on the high-score table doing something that is ultimately pointless? In this aspect, I can't see King as taking a particularly moral low-ground as compared to Taito, Sega, et al.

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Re: Is anyone surpriesd that they are tossers?

Yes; but when you played the 1970s arcade video games, you paid exactly the same amount as every other player and got exactly the same chances as every other player. There was no cheating as such -- it was all fair and above board.

The "social media games" model would be more like Pac-Man being free to play; but with an option to insert coins during a game in progress and have power pills (that let you eat the ghosts) or fruit (worth more points) appear. That is what I call "pay to cheat".

For sure, you don't have to have Candy Crush Saga publish your achievements on Facebook; and I can believe the game is winnable without paying to cheat. But it's all designed to convince you to share your results and pay for better ones.

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A little sympathy

What this shows is the difficulty of protecting a product name if you base it on common words. Even with "Candy" trademarked, anyone wanting to ride on their success has plenty of options. They should have called it "Candymonium", or something.

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Re: A little sympathy

Single real words should NEVER be trademarked. Applications for them should get a "thanks, for the money, rejected" notice with about as many words.

Sad part is, I'd be perfectly happy to have them trademark "Candy Crush".

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Re: A little sympathy

Candy Crush combines 2 of the worst things to happen to gaming in recent years

Free to play (pay to play well)

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Fun cockblocking (play a certain number of times, then pay or sod off)

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Europe and Candy

A brief look at the EU trademark database shows 345 results for the word candy. The exclusive use of a real word in a trademark is limited to the look or other presentation of the word not the word itself. So the problem is with the app store, which you can't use if you don't agree to their T&Cs. I prefer common law to company T&Cs it's much more liberal and pro-business.

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Re: Europe and Candy

I had a Candy Fridge Freezer some years ago.

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iCandy

I would like to announce my new trademark, as above, just to annoy two sets of over-litigious twonks.

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Paris Hilton

"We have trademarked the word 'CANDY' in the EU"

and lawyers have been seen in telephone boxes across the continent writing down the phone numbers of all the 'Candy's on the postcards.

"Purely to check for trademark violations" they tell me!

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"Patent Infringement"

Quick, someone trademark this phrase and we can watch the fireworks show...

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Trademarking words FTW

Now I can release my completely different and original confectionery matching puzzle game "Sweet Squash Story" and be completely untouchable 'cos I used different words. Ace!

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Re: Trademarking words FTW

Or make the background image be an upper-middle class oven and market the game as Sweety Smash Aga

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I think Hasbro should make an online version of Candy Land

and then sue Candy Crush Saga's developmers for trademark infringement. Their rights go all the way back to 1945....

http://www.hasbro.com/games/en_US/candyland/

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They are also trying to trademark the word Saga and have sent threatening letters to the developers of the game Banner Saga, an Indie turn based stategy on Steam (or is it a CRPG?). Anyway, it's nothing like a Bejewelled clone.

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Surprised about LogMeIn

I am among those surprised about LogMeIn suddenly going non-free. The one minor bit of good news:

One place I do IT for has a paid LogMeIn account, which has a few "free" computers on the account (the "free" ones don't allow for checking logs and so on but do allow remote desktop; the plan they have was short 3 computers, the next larger paid plan covered way more computers than they have). After reading about them cancelling free service with essentially no notice, I figured I better log in and check! There's a notice on the account page, if you have a paid account they are NOT cancelling the tacked on free computers, and you can still add and remove them as you wish as well.

Still, I don't think it's that cool to cancel with essentially 0 notice... and furthermore, LogMeIn working so easily for remoting into systems behind NAT gives it such an advantage over their competitors, that I doubt very many people would have found alternatives to LogMeIn even given a month's notice anyway.

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1) I can't say "c*ndy" anymore??

Wow, I'd like to meet the retard in the respective trademark offices: I'd like to trademark "the", and charge 0.01¢ per use, globally, because extortionware.

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2) LogMeIn fiasco

It's the new business model: "Extortionware".

I'm waiting for the day that LogMeIn sends someone to my door to beat the extortionware fee out of me--they might as well, since I've never used the product, and now never will. And I suspect they just lost millions of users thanks to this, and they don't deserve them back, EVER.

I hope they drown in their own excrement.

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Candyfloss

Just imagine all the Lions being harassed for selling their Candy Floss at fund raising functions.

Actually candy floss is apt terminology for the whole thing.

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