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The developer behind the Candy Slots iOS game has said Candy Crush Saga-maker King has gone "too far" with its enforcement of its trademark on the word CANDY. Candy Slots icon and Candy Crush icon The icons of Candy Slots and Candy Crush Slots programmer Benny Hsu was surprised to find an email in his inbox yesterday from …

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Of course they're not going to enforce the name "too strictly"; they know it'd never stand up in court, so they'll only use it to beat up on small-time devs who don't have the resources to fight back.

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If they don't defend their trademark, they lose it. The developer should have done his research first. Unfortunately this is what the world has come to, like it or not. Blame the big companies for this state of affairs, they started it.

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I hate the word CANDY in relation to 'sweets' which is plainly an Americanism that has invaded out language.

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Remember Candy washing machines and dish washers. Someone owns that trade name so watch out Candy Crush because they have been around for longer.

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Re: LarsG @21:01

Are you French?

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Re: LarsG @21:01

we have never invaded Outlanguage.

we have always been at war with Eastasia.

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Research the future?

>The developer should have done his research first

You're assuming that Candy Slots was released *after* Candy Crush got their trademark. I don't know whether they did or not, but it's certainly plausable that there were a dozen "candy" games before the TM was issued

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WTF?

"I hate the word CANDY in relation to 'sweets' which is plainly an Americanism"

Does our depravity know no bounds?!

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And for what it's worth, if you don't like 'candy' being used in relation to sweets, it's the French you have a problem with, not the US; the word originated from the French 'sucre candi', whence it became the Middle English 'sugre candi'.

But, I mean, don't let reality get in the way of some America-bashing; God knows nobody else does.

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If they don't enforce it 'totally' then they'll lose it too.

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Which isn't a bad thing

coz they should never have got it in the first place.

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Re: Which isn't a bad thing

Ah, you mean like Windows.

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Re: Ah, you mean like Windows.

Yep, and Office, and Apple. And probably quite a few others I'm forgetting about at the moment.

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Paris Hilton

Next they'll be suing any number of porn stars and strippers.

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And makers of exploding washing machines

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/03/more-exploding-candy-washing-machines-248906/

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Re: And makers of exploding washing machines

You don't mess with the Italians.

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Re: And makers of exploding washing machines @AC 21.10

Funnily enough the CEO of King games is actually Italian

Riccardo Zacconi

"Is that a Stradivarius you have under your arm or are you just not pleased to see me"

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Upside

is that his game might actually get noticed by people now, whatever the new name is.

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Re: Upside

Streisand Effect, anyone?

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I'm rather more concerned about King's pursuit of the developers of "The Banner Saga" for daring to use the word "saga" in a viking-themed game:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/22/king-are-trying-to-candy-crush-the-banner-saga/

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Sega should sue the fuck out of King.

Panzer Dragoon Saga.

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I think maybe I could write a viking themed game ...

perhaps I'll call it "Egil's Saga", or "Orkneyinga Saga", or "Njal's Saga", or "Laxdala Saga", or somesuch.

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Small suggestion

Rename the game to "Crush the King."

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Considering Candy Crush is a direct rip-off of Pop Cap's Bejewelled; which in turn is a more sophisticated copy of something I had on my PDA in 2004-ish they really shouldn't have a leg to stand on.

The system rewards plagiarising, unethical douchbags at the expense of genuine innovation and it REALLY needs to be changed.

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The thing you had on your PDA in 2004 was probably Same Game, which Wikipedia says has been around since 1985... so yeah.

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All of those games

Are special cases of a more generalised theory of Connect-4.

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A trademark on CANDY? Are they serious?

And if so I'm going to apply for a trademark on 'the' and charge everyone a royalty fee of one genuine smile for each use of my trademark. (Hey, at least I'll be making the world a happier place instead of being a soulless money grubber.)

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As for another King product -

On Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett we were recently discussing whether the witches depicted in the "Bubble Witch Saga" game are a rip-off of the specific portrayal of three reasonably good witches in Terry Pratchett's comedy fantasy novels [Wyrd Sisters] and so forth.

I haven't played the game, but from the description, the witches don't really do anything. They just stand there looking in their cauldon. And all of them have cats, which Terry Pratchett's witches don't except for one - but the Bubble Witch that resembles Nanny Ogg has a cat that resembles Greebo. I take it that the cats don't do anything either.

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Re: As for another King product -

What the fuck are you smoking, dude?

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Re: As for another King product -

I think a Mr W. Shakespeare sometime resident of Stratford on Avon has prior art on the 3 witches concept and Mr Pratchett's acolytes should know this.

As for King 'something wicked this way comes' would seem to be appropriate.

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Re: As for another King product -

Mr. Shakespeare's witches are acknowledged, but they are evil, basically uniform, mostly without cats as far as I remember, and originally played by male actors - which also is acknowledged. Their boy player analogues in the play in [Wyrd Sisters] are arrested by mistake, and Sir Terry's witches take their places on stage, with dramatic consequences.

The idea that spooky women may be maiden, mother, or crone and come in threes has precedents, but I considered that His Pratchettude had innovated by teaming up one of each type, and in other ways. But I'm not a lawyer.

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Meh

While I wholely disagree with the trademarking of a common word like 'Candy', a game called "All Candy Casino Slots – Jewels Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land" is clearly named explicitly to draw hits from searches for several well-established games/genres. If it had just been called 'Candy Slots', being a candy-themed slot machine game, I might be a little more wholheartedly foaming at the mouth over this particular case.

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Free advertising for all!

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Letter

Dear developer

Your use of the word candy infringes out trade mark.

Stop using it or....Page 2 of this letter is available as an in app purchase for £69.99

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Surely you've seen enough of these to realise patents and copyrights aren't valid unless the US office says so; we all know foreign given patents are a ploy to undermine the American way of life.

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Fortunately, patents and copyright don't have any bearing. This is entirely about trademarks, which are applied for and enforced on a regional basis.

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It should not be permissible to claim ownership of a dictionary word or a common phrase. It's just a way for guys with deep pockets to get lawyered up in order to screw individuals and small businesses to remove trivial competitors and block innovation.

I think my proposed "Easy i-Virgin apple leaf candy" product is doomed. (In case anyone misses the references :ownership of the word Easy is claimed by Easy Group easy.com, Virgin by Virgin.com and Apple and the letter "i" in front of anything by some guys who sell overpriced low spec computers dressed up as expensive fashion accessories, they also claim ownership of "leaf" - http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/12/10/apple_applies_to_trademark_the_leaf/#c_1656721). If our political classes weren't in the pocket of big business they'd legislate to prevent this theft of our language.

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They have damaged their own brand

Just by copyrighting 'Candy' they have damaged their own brand as they are now viewed as idiots with more lawyers than sense.

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Re: They have damaged their own brand

Exactly, I just uninstalled Candy Crush

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WTF?

I want Candy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMICD3aMZpw

Will Malcolm McLaren's estate, and some ageing punks, now have to pay royalties?

Candy Candy Candy

Surely this is stupidity taken to the extreme...

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"If anyone saw my icon or played my game, they would know that there was nothing in it that tried to copy Candy Crush."

Including the fact that Candy Crush is run by a company that specialises in online gambling software?

Nope, they're not related at all.

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While I'm no great fan of king.com, and no fan at all of overbroad trademark enforcement, this:

"Candy is something we have all loved since we were children. I just wanted to create a game with a fun theme."

Yeah, right, buddy. Tell me another one. I'm totally sure that the (literally) hundreds of games which have sprouted with 'candy' in the title are just doing so because of developers' sudden and simultaneous nostalgia for childhood confectionery, and nothing whatsoever to do with search rankings. No, of course not. Far be it.

Try doing a search for 'saga' or 'crush' or 'craft' - any one of those terms will yield *at least* 500 games. This is not a cosmic coincidence.

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That large red Jelly Bean looks familiar...

Same as the Android version screen Easter egg.

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