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It was the year 2000, and porn on VHS cassettes was so last decade. Now anyone could get any type of porn without the embarrassment of having to go into a seedy sex shop, thanks to the internet. I had realised there was cash to be made on the web. It was good money for little work, especially if you weren't too bothered by how …

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Ad business model

Interesting.

I would guess that the ad business model works as well for porn as it does for YouTube and Google.

Isn't it the case?

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Re: Ad business model

There is a greater variety of videos on YouTube, so it attracts a greater variety of advertisers. Not only that, but videos often relate to activities on which money will be spent. For example, if you're watching a video for tips on tiling and grouting your bathroom, there's a fair chance you'll soon be spending money in a hardware store. By contrast, the activities associated with the viewing of adult sites require no investment in equipment.

Also, I'm not sure how well the model does work for YouTube; the increasing intrusiveness of the ads and Reg articles about Google's plans to charge for music videos suggest that it might not be bringing in enough money.

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Re: Ad business model

@Dave 126:

"By contrast, the activities associated with the viewing of adult sites require no investment in equipment."

Oh my... how vanilla you are.

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Re: Ad business model

Haha, that's why I chose the word 'require' with care!

You might benefit from a compass, waterproof map and a pair of fancy boots, but you can still go for a walk with just what nature gave you (some clothing is recommended though)! : D

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Re: Ad business model

Oh my... how vanilla you are.

Don't scare the straights.

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Trouble is, most companies won't advertise on porn sites... except other porn sites. And they can't exactly make money solely by advertising eachother. (I guess there are a few exceptions, maybe sex toys and dodgy computer security products, but that's about it.)

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Re: Required Equipment

Compass, waterproof map, and fancy boots, eh?

Well, if that's your thing... go for it!

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I Googled German Goo Girls

Kind of wish I hadn't. Cannot un-see.

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Re: I Googled German Goo Girls

Well that was bound to end in tears :-D

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Re: I Googled German Goo Girls

Well, if you go looking for trouble.....

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Re: I Googled German Goo Girls

...just try goo girling Google

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Are you really so anonymous?

Back in the days those dark days. I was involved with a small discussion board supporting users of a small ISP that was pioneering un-metered internet access. One of the fellow administrators of this little community left the group to work with his "Adult Websites". Which would beg the question, are you he?

The discussion board in question is only now shutting its doors, if anyone on here remembers or used to visit The-Scream.co.uk, now may be your last chance to say goodbye a lovely community.

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Page not found for first part of article

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/13/my_life_as_a_smut_monger_pt1 << 404 for me.

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Re: Page not found for first part of article

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/29/my_life_as_a_smut_monger_pt1/

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Just GOOGLED, GOO-GIRLS into GOOGLE....

....Nearly broke the bleedin internet.

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And remember...a GOO-GIRL isn't just for Christmas...

...with a bit of luck, she'll let you bang her tits off for the rest of the year as well...

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Re: And remember...a GOO-GIRL isn't just for Christmas...

Must. Not. Google......

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Re: And remember...a GOO-GIRL isn't just for Christmas...

Oh... buggar. I can resist everything except temptation.

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Move on, nothing to see here

The porn market is no different from any of the other social networks and services on the Internet, it has had its day, people got rich and then it all slid downhill - like The Well, CompuServe, AOL, MySpace etc. You discover a market, exploit it, make money and then the world and his wife jump into the business. If you don't adapt then you die.

My grip is that the Internet has made porn boring ... it used to be fun and exciting, you could take your time finding the right shop to buy the magazine and sneak it home - then the challenge of getting the wife to try the same positions ... these days even the kids have seen it all and done it all by the time they are twenty. Where's the fun in that?

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For those not familiar with Max Hardcore

Picture a sort of "Bad scoutmaster." with a whispy fringe of white hair.

Truly a role model for the idea of "Growing old disgracefully" (and due to the way that laws written, illegally)

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Re: For those not familiar with Max Hardcore

"Bad Scoutmaster"......hilarious, have an upvote.

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Re:- usually finished off with a full on facial!

Isn't that all porn since time time immemorial?

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Re: usually finished off with a full on facial!

As Spock said; "There are two possibilities".

#1: You are very young, Spoonsinger.

#2: You are a recent arrival to this Septic Isle.

For the record, "JAZZ-SHOTS" only appeared in "British Porn" when Tim Berners Lee freed us from the clutches of David Sullivan and his "JAZZ-FREE" empire....God bless you Sir Tim.

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Re: usually finished off with a full on facial!

"Isn't that all porn since time time immemorial?"

No; it used to be a "special" sub-category as little as 12 years ago when I first had access to a web connection at Uni. There's an interesting study to be done on how mass-access to porn has so quickly impacted social norms. Blokes expect to be allowed to come over their partner's face even on a one-night stand behind the pub bins, young men and women have been conditioned to think pubic hair is strange or even repulsive, and surveys are showing, for example, an increase in girl-on-girl experience of over 400% in just ten years. Anecdotal evidence is that there are increasing numbers of men who can't actually relate to real sex because it's so unlike the porn they have seen since they were in their early teens.

I'm pretty sure much of this is directly connected to the wide availability of hardcore porn and its effects on (particularly) young males' expectations of what constitutes normal sexual activities; but there are other factors, including increasing sexual equality and freedom as well as exposure to more cultures, and more extremists of one kind or another too, via the Internet. As I said, there's an interesting study waiting to be done on this and the recent channel 4 doc "Date My Porn Star" certainly hinted at the darker side of all this albeit with a very small sample size.

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Re: usually finished off with a full on facial!

>young men and women have been conditioned to think pubic hair is strange or even repulsive,

That's not just a modern thing... apparently the Victorian art critic John Ruskin fled from the bedroom on his wedding night, because the study of ancient Greek statues had not prepared him for female pubic hair. It is arguable that maybe a little bit of porn (with real women and pubic hair depicted) might have been a good thing for his matrimonial relations, in the spirit of 'all things in moderation'.

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Re: usually finished off with a full on facial!

Such stuff used to regularly feature in material rented at the New Zealand local video stores in the early 1980s - along with backdoor action that invariably ended with a jizz unload on the woman's back.

All such rentals were for research purposes - we were searching for the one with a plot.

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@Dave 126

"That's not just a modern thing... apparently the Victorian art critic John Ruskin fled from the bedroom on his wedding night, because the study of ancient Greek statues had not prepared him for female pubic hair. It is arguable that maybe a little bit of porn (with real women and pubic hair depicted) might have been a good thing for his matrimonial relations, in the spirit of 'all things in moderation'."

You mean she "Un bushed" him?

I'm already walking.

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"mounting legal costs" :-)

I would have thought that customisable 3D graphics characters (1 or more) doing your bidding on 'camera' would be the thing by now. Now there's an opening for someone!

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"....customisable 3D graphics characters (1 or more) doing your bidding ...."

I think Thrixx have had this one covered (more or less convincingly as the tech evolved) for some time now.

Google 3d Sex Villa (or so I'm told)

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just begging for a list of current sites....

:-D

im not going to mention 'rotica, and certainly not Lali's bits

(tech is still a but limited for real time, but there are lots of smart people working as hard as they can with just the one hand to make it happen)

oh and rule 34 of the internet... duhh!

http://xkcd.com/305/

oh and wetriffs.com exists too!

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Pussy Riot

"Even my cat could do Bit Torrent. It brought easy porn piracy to the masses."

The world is clearly in debt to your cat.

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Orlowski would probably insist that his cat is in debt to the world (of porn IP holders).

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How to make money online ..

"I had realised there was cash to be made on the web. It was good money for little work, especially if you weren't too bothered by how ethically you made the sales".

I too was always short of cash and thinking of ways of making money, but a career in prostitution wasn't one of them .. never even considered it ..

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so that was you?

I chatted with a couple of those bots on MSN chat. Some of them became more and more realistic and the triggers seemed to become more advanced. It was kinda funny to see those bots evolved.

They never made it past funny though, nobody in their right mind would believe it was a real person sitting on the other side.

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Re: so that was you?

Did they start along the lines of "Hi I'm Dave from AT&T, how am I helping you?"

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Re: so that was you?

Actually, that was my line. You'd be surprised how effective it could be. Just put it this way: If I had 20p for every bot I've seduced successfully with that line over the years, I'd have nearly a quid by now.

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Very interesting indeed

Two thought:

- Porn industry is very reactive and is able to adapt its business model much faster than the other media industries

- It's better not to do this business in the US.

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I hate porn. It's crap. I _want_ to like it. I _try_ very hard. But no can do. It, er, sucks.

If I ever meet anyone that makes porn, I will ask them first of all if they are a camera man. If they admit to this, I fear I will be unable to stop myself from reaching for the nearest Daily Telegraph and after styling an impromptu but never the less very effective cosh, beating him profoundly around the head region where it will do most damage.

You see, in my research into on line porn, I have come to the stark realisation that I am a raging fucking pervert. I've seen all kinds of shit. There isn't anything I haven't had a little delve into (apart from the nasty stuff of course). But I have a very unusual and particular kink that is not catered for by any pornographer to date. Ok, I'll come out with it - I've got a thing about women's faces! There. Out of the closet. Big sigh of relief. I don't know what it is. I know it is highly unusual - practically unheard of in fact - but it's just how I'm wired. I can't help myself. For me, the female face is the most alluring part of the female anatomy.

Now. What kind of misogynistic butcher takes the job of a camera man in porn these days? What has he got against the female face? It's tits this and fannys that. How many bumholes can a man see until they all merge into a sea of homogeneity?

And it's not just the bum camera men (ho ho ho)! What about the bastards doing the editing? I have lost count of the amount of times I have been perched aloft on my seat, expectant. Thinking 'here it comes sweet jesus, here it comes, they really are going to show it this time, they really fucking sweet jesus are...' Just for the bastard of a video editor to cut back to her gash. Sweet jesus not again. I shit you not. It is a fucking hour long video. It has had nothing but her gash in it for fifty five fucking minutes and just when you think you are about to be delivered - Lights, Camera, Action. On her bumhole again for a bit of variation.

The worse part is this. The bastards actually show a shot of the woman's face at the beginning. Oh god she is beautiful. Truly beautiful. The only proof of a God in this Universe. The face that launched a thousand ships. The reason why some men dedicate their lives to writing Hymns to women and their profound ineffable beauty. But no, 58 minutes out of 60, that could quite frankly be my or your bumhole, probably with a bit of shaving, granted, but never the less. I might as well have just got out my Gillete Blue 2 and stuck my Samsung where the sun don't shine and edited it down with some bad 'oohs' and 'ahhs'. Auto erotic onanism in one fell swoop.

I almost can't watch porn any more. And the worst thing is that not only do they tease you with the beautiful face of this Godess, but they tease you with the face of a Godess who has only ever made ONE bleeding porno in her life. Talk about a missed opportunity. And this goes across the board for ALL porn. S and M. Teen. Mature. Watersports. Need I go on? Ok. Midget porn. I think I'll just stop there as if you haven't got the point by now...

I mean, when a women is getting ready for a night out, she doesn't spend 2 hours painting her splodge, does she? At least none of the women I have known ever have. YMMV. I mean, who's going to see it anyway. I would imagine a woman would prefer to be complimented on her good looks, not the muscular fortitude of her rectum. "I say darling that really is the most ______ _____ ________ I have ever encountered in my short life span".

"Your eyes look like limpet pools in the snow" might be aging as a good one liner in this day and age. But surely, if sincerely mentioned at the right moment, it's got to be more of a winner than, you know...

I am spotting a massive gap in the market here. It could be revolutionary. I am thinking of setting up a website that features real women with real faces having real sex with real shots of their most beautiful part - their face! Porn made by men who love women. Who love to be loved. Ooh, love to love you baby like Dirty Donna used to say. It suited her.

Are there any other sick perverted individuals like me out there? Or am I just weird and doomed to never find that 'sweet jesus' moment I so achingly long for on film? Go on tell me I'm a sick puppy. I can take it. I've always known I was different.

:-)

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Lol!

You, sir, owe me a new keyboard.

But yes, having seen a few pr0n films they become predictable.

Watching them at 4* speed with sound is moderately funny but quickly becomes boring..

Some enterprising PS4/etc developer should totally make interactive 3D pr0n Bluray "games", that would at least make things interesting.

Also a PS4 uhm, "interactive attachment" would be a hot seller methinks.

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sex with?

Hand, meet....

Oh, nevermind, I see you've already met.

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