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A leaked Microsoft ad, meant only for internal consumption, parodies a Google campaign as it portrays Google Chrome as a data-snaffling privacy-stealing parasite. Chrome is depicted as a surveillance technology to make money from private information for the benefit of Google. Redmond's slick propaganda video is a dig at Google …

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Actually...

..it's a great bit of "advertising" and there's more than an element of truth in the matter too...

How was it leaked from Microsoft? Must have been an IE Zero Day vulnerability

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Re: Actually...

No, it was a leaked email using the email password change vulnerability in Gmail...

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"Great bit of advertising"...

...if you can stand the overwhelming hypocrisy of Microsoft doing the exact same fucking thing as Google.

Excuse me, I have to go uninstall the goddamned Bing Bar, Microsoft included it in the latest Windows updates. Again.

The only difference between Microsoft and Google as regards their commercialisation, monetisation and abuse of my privacy is that I get products and services I actually want from Google. I get ??? from Microsoft in exchange for same.

Fuck 'em both, I say. Firefox with full shields up. You'll have to pry that browser from my cold, dead...

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

I've never had the Bing bar installed on my machine... I've removed it off other peoples, but it has never tainted any of my machines.

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

Bing Bar in Windows Updates? Where do you get updates from? I would check it...

Anyway Chrome tries to install with Flash, Avast, and many other downloads. Just last month my sister asked my why her web browser changed (she uses Firefox) - she updated the AV and got Chrome - like a virus.

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

"Excuse me, I have to go uninstall the goddamned Bing Bar, Microsoft included it in the latest Windows updates. Again."

There's a simple solution to this: actually check what updates you install every month (i.e. just untick the bing bar)

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

At least Google are paying for firefox or you would be stuck, not quite so evil then.....

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Re: Actually...

> No, it was a leaked email using the email password change vulnerability in Gmail...

Microsoft uses GMail ?

Whoda thort.

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

You perform windows updates? Your machine? Then don't run Windows - I have heard there are viable alternatives (I *have* heard it, I just haven't seen one).

There, solved, Firefox on Linux, perfect solution - I am amazed that all the moaners here even need to moan, they can just run Ubuntu (or some such) and Firefox (or some such). Add a lovely Jolla 'phone (or a Firefox 'phone).

Us weird windows users will run our unstable, useless OS that never works (I do hope I get to the end of this post before the inevitable BSOD - I have heard of it, I just haven't actually seen one, just kidding).

I will keep using Bing because it isn't Google and has nice pictures (which has to be more important than results right? - gee, I hope I can find that pesky address using Bing).

I couldn't care less if Google advertise to me of course, I prefer to see ads for Lumia 1020s on Amazon rather than My Little Pony or something.

I just prefer Bing and Windows to alternatives, all of which I have used (well, almost all).

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Re: Actually...

Maybe it was via a Chrome zero Day vulnerability? There are a lot more of those to choose from than IE ones....

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

"Microsoft included it in the latest Windows updates. Again."

Bing Bar has always been in the Optional updates and still is.....

And Microsoft don't read your emails and your chats...That's the big difference.

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

Isn't that the slightest bit misleading when I'm quite sure that both Bing and the Bing Bar can be easily excluded from Windows Update by simply "hiding them"?

BTW, as I understand it, IE11 has far fewer security vulnerabilities than either Firefox or Chrome...Can someone PLEASE make a web browser that I have to pay for that guarantees user privacy and lack of datamining, and does not rely on either JAVA or Flash?!?

Now THERE is a business opportunity!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

There is an option in Windows Update to treat new products as important updates (or similar wording). Thus Bing and other assorted nonsense gets downloaded automagically.

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Re: "Great bit of advertising"...

Bullshit. Microsoft reads my e-mails in Outlook.com, Office 365, my chats on Skype, Lync, MSN Messenger, etc.

They've reduced the security of Skype to enable them to do so. So please, can the bull.

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MS is fighting a lost battle...

... most people lower their pants as soon as they see the word "free".

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Re: MS is fighting a lost battle...

Except in the case of Linux distros. eg, the uproar regarding the Amazon tie in with Ubuntu.*

*This is not a 'Linux is Great' post, more an example that it isn't always the case depending on the pyscho-socio makeup of the group in question.

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"A leaked Microsoft ad, meant only for internal consumption"

Yes, my company's always doing that too, spending money making adverts we only show internally, and really really hope don't leak out to YouTube ....

Actually, no, they're not. Nobody does that.

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Actually you are wrong. I work in the film/video business in the Seattle market and have worked countless shoots over the years for internal Microsoft videos. Many of these have pretty high production values and they are definitely for internal use only. In fact I know of at least one recent instance where a vendor who had edited such a video was banned because he posted it on his Vimeo page.

Heck even the public presentations don't get released in high quality. Case in point was Bill Gates "Last Day" video that was presented at his final CES Keynote. Do a youtube search for Bill Gates Last Day and all you can find are shaky cam handheld video from cell phones at the event. Microsoft is notoriously tight fisted with that sort of material.

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Way to massively miss the point.

You don't see the difference between making a high quality video for Bill Gates "Last Day" presentation, and a high quality video that parodies Chrome, then whooops, oh, did that leak to the web, oh, silly, silly me ....

Of course you do.

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this would be a great ad for IE launch on android

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"this would be a great ad for IE launch on android"

Good idea. Android makes Microsoft products look secure...

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So my searches etc are synchronised across devices?

Sounds like a good idea, I might try it out. Thanks for the info.

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Re: So my searches etc are synchronised across devices?

Yes and unlike MS, different devices and systems from different manufacturers!

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For the love of....

Like any of them are squeaky clean! I'm sure old BIlly Boy and dear Uncle Stevie Ballmer set up Bing out of the goodness of their hearts. Of course as we know Windows is completely philanthropic venture designed to make the world a better place! Heck even Shuttleworth is out of make cash out of the world's most fee O/S.

Now remind MS, weren't you lot one of the "dirty-dozen" who happily sent all our info over to those fun loving folks in the NSA?

Give it a rest MS, you're just as bad as the rest, you just don't make it as obvious!

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Pot this is Toaster

Kettle is working on another channel and unable to receive your transmissions. Out.

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This advertising campaign is succeeding

in convincing me that Microsoft is still as sleazy and disreputable as they have always been.

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Microsoft would never do such a thing...

...Apart from watching what you clicked on in a Google search (i.e. a web page that had nothing to do with Microsoft) so that Bing could replicate those searches. Both stealing user's data and coptying Google's search results a double whammy!

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Echos of Netscape

Interesting declaration of war, this (and no, I don't believe this was "leaked", I call that purposely releasing).

The issues I see is that Google is not Netscape.

It is not depending on MS to play nice to survive, it has a massive pile of cash and it has no problems with playing dirty as it is AFAIK using the same strategies judging by behaviour and pending court cases.

What's more, it is already busy stealing MS' lunch money, and it is already embedded in a sphere where MS would like to play (which is IMHO what this is about).

I think I'm going to get some popcorn, this will make for great entertainment...

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Headmaster

Skype made Skype

easier to crack, before MS bought it...

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Now I see

It was all the staff told to "make sure this doesn't get on Youtube (wink, wink)" uploading at the same time that took down azure.

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Devil

"Redmond will struggle to claim the moral high ground against Google over user privacy"

Google would struggle to gain the high ground against a limbo dancing snake.

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Agree with everything....

.....that it says except where it reads to make a profit "off of you" .

Forgive my pedantry but "from you" surely.

Bigger picture -- hope the current MS campaign scares enough punters that it eventually scares Google.

Meanwhile I'll use DuckDuckGo for my searches because it produces less paid-for junk.

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Private

None of these big companies can resist touching our private data, but Google resists the temptation less than most. MS is slightly better for not ad-mining email, so give them a (very small amount of) credit for that.

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Oh well

TBH I couldn't care less about what Google do to target ads for me, I use adblock and don't look at ads anyway.

I never send an email with any content I wouldn't be happy to have someone like a mum etc reading it. Anything else goes in the snailmail post.

I use Google because they give me what I want and have changed my laptop to a chromebook with GSM in it for on the go, I love the fact that my bookmarks etc etc are synched and that my old email from Blueyonder can still be read via gmail even though I'm no longer a Virgin customer.

MS are becoming only relevent at work as far as I am concerned as others push them out of all the growing markets for non enterprise use.

As for people moaning bout Google and praising Firefox, don't forget who is paying for it, yeh Google is.....

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I'm pretty sure the reason it is 'leaked internal' is that it is pretty close to slander and an official release would have a lawsuit thrown at it before you could say 'Googleplex'

Anyway I am shocked that Google has been making money from me for years. I was sure that they were a charity and all this free stuff was just large scale philanthropy.

However I know one Seattle based company that has been gouging me for years. The main difference being that at least I get something useful from Google.

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WTF?

Is this News?

Video was posted on YouTube last May. Hello?

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Re: Is this News?

Maybe all these sites reporting on it should change the headline to fit: "Nobody notices MS viral video for six months (slow news day brouhaha)"

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Ads?

Never had an interesting ad, so I'm guessing that all that data they've mine has not told them that I like gadgets and sci-fi...

Wonder if they've ever thought of asking?

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Shocked! I must tweet this and post it on facebook, linked in....

Oh, wait.

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What's hiding under the bonnet Microsoft?

Sorry, can't say, our software is proprietary produced in Israel.

arf arf.

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Quack Quack

Meanwhile I'll use DuckDuckGo .

Who use Microsoft Bing.

Quack quack quack.

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Attack ads worked really well for Apple

Attack ads worked really well for Apple, and Apple's attack ads were based on squareness and snobbishness.

This is quite a good ad based on facts, Google does spy on us in an outrageous manner.

Of course Google does have permission in the TOS, but people don't read that.

And, unlike the US government, Google doesn't kill people or destroy their careers based on what it finds by spying. Google is merely serving us advertising we are likely to be interested in.

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This would be possibly the most hypocritical line they've promoted so far.

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Google Wins!

Google has beaten Microsoft soundly in this battle. It took them far fewer years to earn the title Evil Empire. "Do no harm!"

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Compared to the comprehensive fucking over we've had from Microsoft, google doesn't even tickle.

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