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The latest version of Winamp, released on Wednesday, will be the last, with the venerable media-playing software scheduled to all but vanish from the internet next month. "Winamp.com and associated web services will no longer be available past December 20, 2013," reads a notice posted to the Winamp website on Wednesday. " …

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Well at least the llama will be happy

I used to use it quite a lot back in the day and still do occasionally so it will be missed.

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Re: Well at least the llama will be happy

I used it yesterday, in fact - v5.6.

I use 3 media players:

* Media Monkey v3 (v2 skin) - for my ripped CD collection (previously MM Jukebox, till Yahoo destroyed it)

* Winamp v5.6 ('classic' skin)for one-off audio files - voicemail messages, downloaded samples, etc...

* VLC for video

I love the exceptionally small, but function-dense, interface of the WA classic skin - perfect for what I use it for!

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Re: Well at least the llama will be happy

I use it every day to listen to live streams. The shoutcast streaming format is pretty good. It should be developed. There are Open Source versions of WinAmp. It's a classic.

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Re: Well at least the llama will be happy

"I love the exceptionally small, but function-dense, interface of the WA classic skin - perfect for what I use it for!"

That was half the problem I found about Winamp, although I used it lots. Its interface was total pants because it was so inconsistent and dense. If you were looking for a function you hadn't used before, or not for ages, it was was a nightmare to locate. Was it clicking those three pixels under the that button, or was it in a menu, three levels down under a sub-menu about something entirely unrelated? Who knows? Certainly not the help documentation.

You certainly got the impression that the functionality had been layered onto the interface in umpteen different updates, resulting in a incredibly powerful application with no sensible design. The entire menu system needed thrown out and re-designed from scratch to make any sense, but that never happened.

And that's before you even consider the madness of using a different skin, where everything was in an entirely different place and not documented at all.

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Re: Well at least the llama will be happy

It would still be my media player of choice - if it hadn't become a bloatware admonster.

The only good media player now is Foobar2000.

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Well that...

Really whips the Llamas ass...

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And a lovely player it was

Until the bloat of Winamp3

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Re: And a lovely player it was

3 was to 2.4 what iTunes is to, et, pretty much anything else.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

> Until the bloat of Winamp3

That's why I still use Winamp 2.78. A lovely, efficient media player that uses oh so LITTLE cpu cycles.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

It was my Windows Media player of choice, until I switched to the dark side, about seven or eight years ago, and I have to admit that Rhythmbox still does it, despite being deprecated by Umbongo since about 10.10 or so.

Some of the visualisations were pretty cool though. Almost as good as Solarwinds screensaver.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

I usually don't have anything good to say about Windows or its apps, but on this occasion I have to tip my hat and mourn the passing of an absolute classic, indeed seminal piece of software.

Although the software I'm talking about actually died a long time ago, over fourteen years ago in fact, so mourning its passing now is a bit like mourning the passing of the real Napster long after it had been assimilated and commercialised.

Still, as iconic moments go, this is a sad one.

But weep not, intrepid Ampers, because you can still relive the classic Winamp experience vicariously through Audacious and QMMP.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

Winamp 2 was a beast, but after they tried to sideload crap with the installers I went to media player classic (As I hadn't really thought to go back to WinAmp 2, might grab a copy from oldversions.com later).

Kind of odd how ISP's buy up freeware then realise they can't make money from them (I used to use Sonique which was brought by Lycos and left to rot).

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Re: And a lovely player it was

2.78 is what I used for the longest time too, I'm sure. That's not the last 2 version, but it's the last good version overall.

It was excellent. But then that's a problem for AOL. How can you make money out of people who want to keep using an ancient version of Winamp?

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Re: And a lovely player it was

that uses oh so LITTLE cpu cycles.

FEW..

/grammar nazi

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Re: And a lovely player it was

cpu cycles are just 1's and 0's so they are little.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

I used a 2.7x version for a long time too, before switching to foobar2k (and now Clementine after migrating from XP last year).

I installed Winamp 5 x? a few years back and it really wasn't that bad - certainly better than v3 when it first appeared! But the main reason was to be able to use the soundspectrum visualisation plugins, and foobar2000 remained my default player.

The video playing capabilities always seemed like silly bloat. I don't think I ever knew anyone who used Winamp to watch video files.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

"...but after they tried to sideload crap with the installers..."

That was my experience too. I went years without updating it because of the stuff it (AOL) insisted on installing. A few years ago I found that was no longer the case, or that it was easily bypassable (I forget which) and went to far as to buy Winamp Pro so I could rip to mp3, or was it FLAC... one or both of those, or something else that I wanted, was only available with Pro. I use it all the time, every day, it's my audio player and library manager of choice. So this is sad news.

But not surprising. It's been chaos over at Nullsoft for a long time. An email exchange I had recently with one of its programmers about a dodgy feature implementation and a suggested enhancement left me with the impression that there was really no direction to how the thing was being developed. Ad hoc and free form.

Just downloaded the latest version. It should suffice for for some time. Have no idea what I'd move to next.

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Re: And a lovely player it was

I skipped version 3 of Winamp, as it performed poorly and had some functionality issues. Thankfully, Nullsoft abandoned it as well, and the following year released Winamp 5 based off version 2's codebase, but with most of version 3's additions replicated. There's also since been a "Winamp Lite" released, that cuts out many of the side features added over the years.

As for the other bundled garbage that can get installed with it, that just requires going through a custom install to avoid those things getting added. That can be a bit more tedious, but it's not like you really need to reinstall Winamp frequently. Many people get along fine using versions of the software that are years old. Existing versions of Winamp will continue to function fine for many years to come, so I expect it to continue to be used for quite some time into the future, even if it is no longer actively developed.

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I still use my old X10 Mini as my MP3 player, using Winamp (paid for) for its FLAC and gapless playback support. Pity.

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useful features

Winamp has some useful features, like being able to specify the audio device to use. Means my primary playback device in Windows can be my headphones while Winamp uses another output to play to my amp.

Windows Media Player certainly can't do that, not can any of the streaming services mentioned in the article.

VLC can but is hardly a suitable music library player.

Can anyone suggest a good free alternative to Winamp that can do the same thing?

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Check out foobar2000. I switched away from WinAmp a few years ago and I use foobar2000 for my light playback needs. It supports a lot of the features that people probably use in WinAmp and is much less bloated. It supports most (all?) of the common formats and few additional ones via the plug-in system (.MOD anyone?). I also use it for WAV > MP3 conversion (interface to lame.exe command line)

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Another vote for Foobar2000. I switched from Winamp last year from and have been happy with Foobar so far. It has encoding facilities (although you may need to point it at the encoder executables yourself the first time), library, DSP plugins, input plugins, themes/layouts, global hotkeys, selectable output, etc. One of my favourite features is that it supports last.fm's scrobbler natively, without needing the official scrobbler app running in the tray.

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Foobar 2000 is the best - There is also a cut down version that I forget the name of that is a single exe.

More importantly it sounds significantly better than anything else that I know of.

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Re: Cut down Foobar2k

The cut down version of Foobar2K is called Boom, it uses the same backend with a heavily simplified interface (doesn't even have shuffle/random). It's just a single exe file, no installer Find it here: http://perkele.cc/software/boom

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Re: useful features

NOOOOOOPE!

Where's my built-in shoutcast radio / TV ?

Where's my beautifull Tiny AVS visualisation programming language

Where are all those nice, opensourced, community skins, bordel!

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Re: useful features

Try Clementine

http://www.clementine-player.org/

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Re: Foobar is the Windows standard, isn't it?

The Audio standard, at least, for everybody except extreme audiophiles who's PC audio systems consist of multiple boxes connected by ridiculous Audioquest ethernet patch cables.

For what it's worth, I would have chosen to use VLC, multi-platform, for everything, except its developers never listen to classical music or live concert recordings, so they don't see anything wrong in inserting silent gaps between tracks --- a fatal fault that makes it absolute crap for audio.

Now, Linux based (but Windows-available too) I use Aqualung, because I want a simple audio player that is not a complex library manager, doesn't think it has to be a browser as well, and ...just plays music.

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Re: useful features

I use FoorBar via a DAC through an USB port (i.e. avoiding the Windows mangling of the sound) and it's simply wonderful.

+1 from me too.

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And that

Clarifies the difference between Free as in Freedom vs Free as in Beer.

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Re: And that

Well noone ever said that WinAmp was free software, it was free of charge but it was always proprietary.

Perhaps AOL will open source it. I doubt it, but you never know.

VLC is free software but I really don't like it on Windows, and I'm not quite sure why I don't as opposed to using it on Linux, where its what I use for all of my media and what I've always used in that environment, whether it was when I was still using Ubuntu or when I moved on to Fedora.

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Re: And that

where's my streamripeeeeeer!

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

*breathes*

...oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's 20 bucks down the shitter after a mere 12 years. What went wrong?

Why didn't they just say "We've finished it, there is nothing more it can do"?

Can anything else play random Albums in FLAC?

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Re: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

So it's finished and needs no improvement. (actually the biggest recent improvement with Win7 was player options when you hover over the icon on the taskbar!)

So why bother replacing it? I shall retain my copy of winamp until a product comes along that's a lot better.

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Re: Can anything else play random Albums in FLAC?

If you are talking about shuffling albums, Foobar2k and Clementine can do that

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Re: Can anything else play random Albums in FLAC?

Serviio, a DLNA media server, will play random albums or random tracks from FLAC source, but then one would expect a shuffle play feature. Serviio will also real-time transcode if it recognises a client needs, say, AAC.

I prefer the server based model as I can access it from just about anything: the TV, my iThings with MediaConnect app, Android apps, etc, plus anyone in the household may share the server concurrently. The benign availability of 'quality' music might just, eventually, wean the pre-teen off 1D but, in that, I digress....

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Re: Can anything else play random Albums in FLAC?

XBMC

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Re: Nooooooooooooooo

Jriver media center will play anything you throw at it, audiophile quality, every option you can think of is available for playback, check it out if you are looking for quality. Its not free but well worth the money.

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Re: until a product comes along that's a lot better.

And that would be on a Windows XP machine?

Good man!

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What about shoutcast????

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Re: What about shoutcast????

Foobar2000 does shoutcast. For music there's no better player for Windows. I use it for ripping CDs to FLAC, converting the FLACs to OGG for a portable player/phone and listening to shoutcast radio.

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Re: What about shoutcast????

plays? or broadcasts as well? Will it all still work without the shoutcast.com directory?

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Re: What about shoutcast????

shoutcast will, there just wont be a central directory, not using the directory makes your station upper class and more professional, then you just goto the server address in your browser and find out their scum

google will probably buy shoutcast and take on macro flash and MS silver whatevers, and bring back shoutcast tv for youtube

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Like some of the other commentators, I moved away from WinAmp with its 3.0 release.

Since I have a decent collection of tracker mods from ye olden games, I wanted a player that could handle reading all kinds of formats and ended up with XMPlay with one of the plugins (DelixTracker) which handles everything I can throw at it.

To the one person who asked about music devices, XMPlay lets you specify which device you want to use, including WAV encoding or LAME (for MP3) or OGG output should you need to transfer formats.

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I wanted a player that could handle reading all kinds of formats and ended up with XMPlay

Indeed, for Windows XMPlay is the bee's knees. It's effective and keeps out of the way, both in terms or computer resources and UI real estate. On Linux I seldom have a problem using whatever is standard for my current distribution (Mint at this moment), but try as I might I never got to grips with WMP.

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Shame

I wrote my (dreadful) final year dissertation on the relative merits of Winamp vs WMP this makes me feel old

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Good times were had with WinAmp on Windows 2K while I was installing server racks in the middle of the night. Only me and a bottle of Vodka. Only to get told by the female secretary that I was crazy.

Ah yes, so long ago.

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That actually sounds like a good time

Booze and servers, what could ever go wrong?

Honestly, not very much. The biggest problem is simply forgetting what exactly you did. Maybe if you get drunk again when you need to support it, you'll be in the same frame of mind..

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Re: That actually sounds like a good time

Maybe if you get drunk again when you need to support it

Isn't that standard protocol? Seems to be the case any time I have to call for support for things beyond my demarc.

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Re: Maybe if you get drunk again when you need to support it

State dependant memory, works for me

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And what position...

... did the male secretary adopt?

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