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Apple is recalling some of its flagship iPhone 5s handsets after a flaw was found in the batteries that causes them to unexpectedly run out of juice. "We recently discovered a manufacturing issue affecting a very limited number of iPhone 5S devices that could cause the battery to take longer to charge or result in reduced …

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Serve them right

for gluing them in in the first place.

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Re: Serve them right

YEAH! Oh wait... I have a Nexus 4... err...

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After a year-and-a-half of of use, my battery life on my Samsung Android wasn't as wonderful as it had once been. So, two weeks ago I replaced it with a brand new one I bought on Amazon for $8.

That doesn't suck.

I've never bought a landfill phone without a replaceable battery, and I never will.

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After a year-and-a-half of of use, my battery life on my Samsung Android wasn't as wonderful as it had once been. So, two weeks ago I replaced it with a brand new one I bought on Amazon for $8

$8 for a Samsung android phone, wow they're getting cheaper!!! no wonder they outsell i-Phones at that price

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Re: Serve them right@Andy Prough

Only 18 months and it was knackered?

Probably still on Gingerbread as well.

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After two years of use, my battery on my Apple iPhone 4S was working very nicely. But I dropped the phone and cracked the screen. I took it to an Apple Store and they gave me a new phone. That doesn't suck, and it didn't cost me $8. Well, maybe the price of an underground ticket.

My old phone didn't go to landfill – it will be salvaged in one of Apple's huge repair facilities.

Meantime, I'm quite happy to have a phone that doesn't have creaky bits that snap apart for the dubious purpose of fitting a new battery, fluff-gathering expansion ports, flashing LED adornments etc. etc. etc.

So there.

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"I have a Nexus 4..."

The number "4" in the context of smartphones is obsolete, dated, and well past its prime. It's simply embarrassing. You should really be ashamed of yourself. Your only hope of redemption is to purchase a Nexus 5 immediately upon release.

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"I've never bought a landfill phone without a replaceable battery"

Are there any phones available without replaceable batteries? I feel you're trying to make a point about Apple, but since everyone with an IQ over 4 (ie most Apple users according to Reg commentard fandroids like yourself) knows that iPhone batteries are easily replaceable your point seems to be that your IQ is less than this :/

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@Mike Bell Re: Serve them right

Translation: "I bought an extended warranty/insurance policy on a phone and they honoured it."

Stop the presses!

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Lucky you. My work iphone 4S is 18 months old and the battery barely lasts a day with only a few calls and the odd email.

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Re: Serve them right @Lusty

So I can swap the battery in the iphone in less than 10 seconds without voiding the warranty?

I can with my non-glued together phone......

If I don't 'play' with my phone I can get 3+ days charge out of it... if I use it, i.e. movies, reading books etc, I get a days charge out of it..

And really a day is not enough when you travel...

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@returnmyjedi

My 4S was the same, though if memory serves it could do only barely more than a day when new, so battery decline isn't so much of an issue as the battery life being bad in the first place — albeit along with most of the rest of the industry.

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"Apple declined to say precisely how many iPhones are affected by the botched battery design, but indicated it was in the thousands."

Deliberate ignorance? Clearly it's not going to be the design, but a bad chemical mix in a subset of batteries as Apple will not have had a different design just for a subset of phones. But hey this is The Register, anything to make it look like Apple have been incompetent rather than that there were supplied with a bad batch that failed to meet requirements.

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@Mike Bell - "I took it to an Apple Store and they gave me a new phone. That doesn't suck, and it didn't cost me $8. Well, maybe the price of an underground ticket."

How much did you pay for AppleCare? I didn't have to pay Samsung a single penny for the right to buy an $8 brand new battery on Amazon.

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I've never bought a landfill phone without a replaceable battery, and I never will.

For me the point is rather to be able to remove the battery, not so much to replace it.

Just to be 100% sure the damn thing is off, whenever I want it to be off.

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"The Register, anything to make it look like Apple have been incompetent".

Excellent. More crApple bashing please...It annoys the plebs...

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Dude, I have a SAMSUNG SIII and it's rubbish, like some oversize deal extreme toy and the OLED screen can hardly be seen outdoors and guzzles juice unless as much of it is kept black. Drop it and bits drop off it. I still have my old iPhone 4, just updated to iOS7 (can't even update the 6 month old SIII to later than 4.2.2 - yet). What is more, I replaced the battery in all my iPhones within 15 minutes for about £6. I wouldn't let glue stop me doing the next once the SIII has been jetisoned.

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Your doing it wrong!

Though it is understandable as you say you have had the iPhone before the Samsung and probably don't realise that there is a lot of customization you can do to get the most out of your android, unlike iPhones.

And I am guessing that because you are an iUser, you think you are smarter then the average user and therefore you have done everything you can and it's still rubbish, therefore lets bash the droid and continue using my fruity phone.

Seriously. The phone is fine in even the brightest of outdoor scenorio's. And yes, if you do things like leaving the Wifi permanently on instead of switching it off when the phone sleeps, leave the brightness up on full, use the base applications that drain the battery etc.. etc.. then it probably will be rubbish. But if you are clever about it then the SIII is a great phone. Don't go mocking something because of your own ignorance!

I get a full days use out of my battery and thats with fairly heavy usage of it during the day (watching vids, internet, e-mail, vpn and RDP) . Some days it doesn't even get close to low battery.

So please. Go donate your Samsung to someone who deserves such a nice bit of kit and go back to playing with your crApple.

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Re: Serve them right @Mike Bell

But how did having the warranty on your iPhone cost after 2 years?

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Re: Serve them right

$8 for a clone battery - not sure I would trust that in my pocket - left charging unattended etc.

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Re: Serve them right

Apple will replace the battery in your iPhone - think it may be about £50/$50 - but at least it's a genuine cell to the manufacturer specifications rather that a 3rd party / knock off. Considering these batteries typically last 1000+ full cycles - paying that for another 3 years use seems pretty fair.

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Apple phones last longer - can be repaired - hold their value and Apple will properly recycle them at the end. Not really sure where the issue is. A friend is still using his iPhone 3GS every day - battery still fine and it's 4 years old. YMMV with batteries but quality cells are typically good for 750-1000+ full cycles and even that may still have 70-80% capacity - so I'd be surprised even if you fully discharged it every day if it did not last 2-3 years and then Apple will replace it with a new cell (to their spec) at a pretty fair cost. Remember you can't compare a 3rd party cell pack you fit yourself from eBay to a genuine cell you buy from the manufacturer and they fit for you.

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Re: Serve them right

Anyone who says crApple must be what 10-12 years old or acting like it. All phones have faults - Apple do not make the batteries but they are making sure their users get a decent service and have them replaced.

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Re: Serve them right

Personally, I can't wait until they release the Nexus 6 - it's rumoured to have a 4-year lifespan.

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You just did, I bet a lot more people with Android devices are chucking batteries into the landfill, who cares about the phone compared to the damage the batteries are doing. My entire family have had iphones and ipods over the years and have NEVER had to replace the device or battery. Not to say others haven't but nothing compared to non apple devices.

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Re: Serve them right @Lusty

Oh I didn't realise we define easy as 10 seconds now. Not sure how you get a battery delivered in 10 seconds though, I'd imagine in reality the whole process is probably similar in time to the Apple process, and a quality battery from the phone vendor is probably similar money too. The difference being that Apple devices look nice and pack more into the case because they don't have a door and a big plastic battery to accommodate.

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@AC 10:28 - >"$8 for a clone battery - not sure I would trust that in my pocket - left charging unattended etc."

No, it was a genuine Samsung battery. Same model number the phone originally came with:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EB484659VA-1500mAh-Standard-Battery/dp/B005CRPU74

In fact - I was wrong. I'm looking at the page again and I see it was only $7. I must have paid some tax.

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I'm not sure about lasting longer. I've still got my HTC Desire which is just shy of four years old now, a few months younger than the 3Gs. The battery still holds very good charge as a phone (about a day) and I can easily replace it myself if I wish. They still go for about £70 on fleabay (granted I'm sure this is less than a similar age iPhone). As for recycling, I did it myself. I removed the SIM rooted it and removed all of the phone software, reskinned the OS and made it into an MP3 player. If I turn off wifi and bluetooth I can get a couple of days battery life minimum out of it which makes it a pretty decent MP3 (as well as any other digital file format you can think of) player for taking on long journeys. And it has a micro SD card slot so I upgraded the storage. I'm not disputing that the iPhones are pretty well built pieces of kit, but they're by no means the only one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_4bLNM0axE

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How long before the oblig

They were holding them wrong!

comments.

Seriously this has gone well past its sell by date.

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Re: How long before the oblig

You're posting that comment wrong!

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Holmes

Silly, silly boy.

The obvious snarky comment is;

"You were charging it wrong".

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Here we go again Fandroids out in force jumping with joy.

Rather pathetic lives they lead.

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@AC 19:49

How is your comment any different - or do you think jumping in to defend a phone brand is somehow not a pathetic life?

Me, I have a phone, it's an HTC. Other members of my family have iPhones. It's called personal preference and choice, but then as a veteran/survivor of the home computer wars, maybe I'm just jaded.

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"Here we go again Fandroids out in force jumping with joy.

Rather pathetic lives they lead."

Who... thefuck... downvoted this?

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Not really. They have a *choice* about changing the batteries (well, with a few manufacturers). Apple and HTC etc. give you NO choice.

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"reaching out" - wanky corporate phrase alert

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Better than "reaching around" I guess

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Boffin

It's generic...

All such statements are prepared by Marketing and/or PR types.

Neither of which are renowned for their knowledge of, or skills in, the correct use of the English language.

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At least a reach around is enjoyable for one of those involved....

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@Steven Raith

Why is someone reaching around, anyway?

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Totally: couldn't they just say 'contacting' rather than sounding like some new age cult or Mafiaso?

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At least a reach around is enjoyable for one of those involved....

In a crowded lift* - not so much

* elevator for those with a language stuck in the 1700's

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Michael Thibault - maybe they're just the giving type?

I think I've lost the thread of conversation and got stuck in my own twisted mind, if I'm honest. Lets leave it there.

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Re: At least a reach around is enjoyable for one of those involved....

or had a nation since before then :¬)

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Have you noticed that when anything, anywhere goes pear-shaped, it only ever effects "a very small number" or "a very limited number" of people/items/software or anything else you care to name?

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You'd hope product testing would find most issues, so small numbers are good. But occasionally something huge slips through...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/10335952/Nissan-recalls-nearly-1-million-cars-worldwide.html

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"Have you noticed that when anything, anywhere goes pear-shaped, it only ever effects "a very small number" or "a very limited number" of people/items/software or anything else you care to name?"

So sort of like the Holocaust if the Nazi's had a good PR team? AKA too many :/

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Re: The few

Don't you mean Apple shaped? Ah Ah

*FozzyBear.png*

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Re: The few

AC - downvoted because of dragging the Shoah into a discussion of mobile phones. Sorry, sense of humour bypass on that one.

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