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The anonymous buyer of the Lotus Esprit submarine car from the James Bond flick The Spy Who Loved Me has turned out to be none other than billionaire inventor Elon Musk. The white car made famous in Roger Moore's Bond film was sold at auction in the UK last month for £550,000. As is typical of most auctions, the identity of the …

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Why didn't he just buy a normal Esprit...

..oh because he CAN by the "proper" one. Darn

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Re: Why didn't he just buy a normal Esprit...

I suspect many of the parts will be swapped out if he plans to make it viable...

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Re: Why didn't he just buy a normal Esprit...

because a 'normal' Esprit will forever a be a replica, and Top Gear kinda did that already.

Buy the original and make it into the version seen on screen, it'll forever be a genuine one of a kind.

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Re: Why didn't he just buy a normal Esprit...

They made a number of these cars for the film. Here is a link to one that was restored in Finland.

http://www.mat.fi/n_index.php?nav=gallery_view&gallery=1977lotusespritexbond&g=13

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In 5 years time ...

In 5 years' time we'll be hearing how Elon Musk was tragically killed in a combined electrocution, drowning and lithium/water explosion incident.

(Unless he is very, very careful about removing every single Lucas component.)

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Re: In 5 years time ...

Edison invented the phonograph and the lightbulb. Lucas invented the short and the intermittent open.

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Re: In 5 years time ...

Swan invited the lightbulb

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Re: In 5 years time ...

I wouldn't worry, Lucas electrics work as well underwater as they do above.

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I believe that history and the truth shows that he invented neither. He did want us all to use DC though and murdered an elephant...

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Hmmm...

Part of me wants to diss Elon for all the wacky stuff he is trying to do.

The slightly larger part of me wishes all billionaires were so awesome and did wacky stuff like Elon.

Keep it up dude!

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Re: Hmmm...

Given that he appears to have made a success out of both electric sportscars and cheap rockets, I'd be very cautious about using the word wacky about any of this guy's projects. I'm sure he's bound to screw something up, as if you keep trying hard things that's pretty much inevitable.

But he appears to have taken two established industries (rockets and cars), walked in and said, "what's so difficult about this then?" Then urinated upon the incumbent big players from a very large height, in a very short time. It's all rather impressive.

Admittedly he's also put a cheese into orbit, so I guess wacky does apply somewhat...

I'm really disappointed that he didn't put some port into orbit to go with it - major logistical screw-up there. But I hope he invited some friends round for dinner, and then proceeded to produce the world's most amazing cheeseboard. There's one-in-the-eye for your fellow billionaires!

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> I'm really disappointed that he didn't put some port into orbit to go with it

Particularly considering there is the biggest known source of cheese already in space.

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So, he wants to take car powered by a humungous battery of cells which object violently to being short circuited, and sink it in water...

More power to his elbow, I say.

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salt water no less, the somewhat more conductive stuff

but hey it is still awesome.. yolo

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While batteries obviously need to be kept safe from water I don't see that having a battery is in itself a dumb idea. After all, virtually all submarines except the nuclear kind use batteries when they are submerged to propel themselves forwards.

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"yolo"

yolt.

This is Bond, after all.

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Its the Electric Boat Division which makes submarines. Even nuclear submarines.

So an electric underwater car is *conventional* and not the exemption. Other than for being a car.

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"So an electric underwater car is *conventional* and not the exemption. Other than for being a car." It might be easier to put wheels on a submarine. I hope he is also thinking on putting wings on the thing. And I also think it*s fine with somebody who wants to build stuff.

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"Its the Electric Boat Division which makes submarines"

Originally, of course, Electric Boat made, well, electric boats. Surface boats, that is, not submarines. Later on, their expertise in marine electrics got them into submarines.

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"It might be easier to put wheels on a submarine."

It has been done in the past. The US submarine NR-1 had "bottoming wheels".

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Reckon he didn't know that it didn't actually transform when he bought it, and now he's pissed but you can't return auction purchases and now he's going to make it happen to save face.

I'm picturing Musk and his buddies standing around, half drunk, and ramping the car into a lake, only to be disappointed and when it sinks and being laughed at. Don't laugh at the man who builds his own rockets he thinks...

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Actually it's the other way around. The "car" can't drive on land, but is a working submarine!

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Really?

Can he not just do it with a normal car instead of butchering a piece of film history?

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Exactly what I thought. This is like someone wishing the Mona Lisa was 3D so modifying the original to jump out at you with 3D glasses on.

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Re: Really?

Don't give him any ideas

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Re: Really?

History is bunk. Why hoard such things?

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Re: Really?

If he manage to perform the conversion and retain the external aspect of the car, then it will be more of an awesome hommage than a butcher job.

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Your down-votes fall upon me like a gentle summer shower...

Bear in mind that this piece of priceless movie memorabilia was so treasured and sought-after that the container it had been chucked into after filming was completed was sold in 1989 with no-body knowing what was stored inside.

Should we put all movie props in a museum? It'll have to be a big one. How about we just treasure the films, and let the near-autistic male collector gene wither and die like the disease it is?

GJC

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Whatever next

I guess this is to go with his Iron Man suit and Batmobile he has hidden away in his hi-tech lair, where Thunderbird 5 takes off. Don't we all wish we could live out our childhood dreams.

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Oops, that should have been Thunderbird 3 of course.

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I see you've decided he's a Bruce Wayne / Tony Stark good billionaire.

This is of course a possibility. However given his interest in rockets and monorails (well vacuum tube railways is close enough...) - I beg to suggest that we need to consider the alternative here. I'm afraid it's nominative determinism all over again. If you give someone a supervillain's name, such as Elon Musk, then you really can't be surprised when he goes off the rails and tries to destroy the world.

When the super-mutated-killer bacteria from his 'flying cheese into space' experiment start wiping out humanity, don't say I didn't warn you!

What's that? 5 black Tesla Roadsters have just pulled up outside? OHHHH SHHHHIIIIII......

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He might be planning Thunderbird 5 as well.. He is spending an awful lot developing usable rockets, and I am fairly certain they'd come in handy for assembling Thunderbird 5.

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Next up...

Doc Brown's DeLorean.

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Re: Next up...

I'd settle for a hoverboard.

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Why so many comments about batteries and water. Its a submarine and most submarines run on batteries.

Its no crazier than having a car that has petrol in it, petrol that can burn in air.

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All of ours are nuclear

I think that we have the only 100% nuclear fleet there is.

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> Its a submarine

It's a Lotus.

As a former Esprit owner, I can assure you that it comes nowhere near the watertight requirement for a submarine...

Vic.

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They don't run on lithium batteries, the MSDS of which states that your not supposed to put them in airtight containers as they need to be able to vent hydrogen when both charging and discharging iirc. If the hydrogen can't escape and builds up enough pressure it hits the point where it combusts, at which point you've constructed a delayed action time bomb.

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Re: All of ours are nuclear

Bragging, are we. Remember Romney revealed that you have fewer canoes than 60 years ago.

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Only needs to be partially watertight and then pressurised; a motorised diving bell/bathysphere.

Part of me thinks Top Gear might already have done that...?

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> Only needs to be partially watertight

Have you ever ownedf an Esprit?

Fantastic car, it truly is. But the two adjectives you wouldn' apply are "reliable" and "watertight"...

Vic.

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Lotus

I think Elon knows about Lotuses - look at the Tesla - Lotus chassis design

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> look at the Tesla - Lotus chassis design

The Tesla is based on the Elise. That's about as different as could possibly be from an Esprit.

Vic.

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Top Gear have been there and done that....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfOwSTXP-3o

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Re: Top Gear have been there and done that....

After watching that I REALLY want to make one myself!

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Somewhere to start...

Here's the Gadget Show playing with the Quadski, a Quadbike which transforms into a pretty decent jetski.

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i wonder....

would a battery covered in the super hydrophobic stuff, not short out...?

Hmmm....

P.

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Unfortunately yes it would short out at any significant voltage- the electric would just arc through it to the water. Might work with low-voltage PCBs, but then there are already waterproofing agents for those.

When electronics are to be put under water, though, they're typically either put in a 'dry' housing or in an oil-filled container of some sort. A 'dry' housing means they can be kept in any environment you want (typically sea-level pressures with regular air) but is expensive. Oil-filled boxes are cheap but mean the electronics see the full pressure of the water (so you either have a pretty limited depth before things break (up to 50m is generally possible with regular 'home' electronics that don't include electrolytic caps) or have to modify the electronics to remove 'crushable' components like crystals).

An 'oil-filled and compensated' 3-phase motor could hit the bottom of the Challenger Deep and still work fine as it's just a block of metal with another block of metal inside it, with the void filled with oil and so is more or less incompressible.

The body of the Lotus, however, would have to be foot-thick Titanium to keep the driver safe from the pressure (at that depth, about 32,000psi!)!

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Rinspeed

Ask Rinspeed, they did it, with a Lotus. Not as sexy as the Esprit though.

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Auction not as described

Time to claim on the PayPal buyer protection?

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