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The BBC is to remake the classic children's animation programme The Clangers as a hi-tech production with environmental politics at the fore. Original Clangers animator Peter Firmin and illustrator Daniel Postgate - the son of Clangers creator Oliver - will be involved in the £5m budget production. The new series will be …

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Why can't they write some new programmes?

I've only just got over the crappy new CGI Smurfs, now they want to have CGI clangers?

I think the day the tide was turned was when they remade the Italian Job - after that, nothing was ever sacred again.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

Agreed, the fact that they were made from odds and ends added to their credibility, their warmth. Unfortunately CGI has the tendancy to remove the cuddly effect and replace it with "clean and perfect".....

Bagpuss et al shared the same idea imperfection and it is was made them so real..

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

Not CGI - Proper stop-motion.

New puppets are being made by the firm that worked on "The Corpse Bride" etc.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

And remade The Italian Job...

in bloody America, was there actually anything Italian in it ?

I concur with your vexed stance.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

It won't be as good because it simply can't be as good.

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You think The Italian Job was bad? Just wait until you get to the final paragraph of the BBC press release, er, news article: "The £5m production is already under way, and is being co-produced by US pre-school TV channel Sprout, which will broadcast the programme in North America."

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

May I point you in the direction of CBeebies listings?

Me Too

Pingu

Charlie and Lola

Q pootle

Octonouats

Wibbly Pig

Rastamouse

Everythings Rosie

Tweenies

Alphablocks

Raa Raa the noisy Lion

Magic Hands

number jacks

What's the big idea

Something special

Lets play

Mr Blooms nursery

I can cook

The lingo show

Mister maker

Wooly and Tig

ZingZilla's

Ballamory

Tilly and Friends

Waybaloo

The Rhyme Rocket

Baby Jake

Get Well Soon

Kerwhizz

Chuggington

Nina and the Neurons

Sarah and Duck

Gigglebiz

Grandpa in my pocket

The Adventures of Abney and teal

In the Night Garden.

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Bloody hell, nothing but remakes in that list.

In fact only ones I could see are Tickabilla (Playschool), Bob the Builder and Postman Pat. Oh I guess bedtimes stories is Jackanory.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

What about Mary, Mungo and Midge..

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

Well the big budget revamp worked for Dr Who I'm told. (Never seen the post-hiatus Who.)

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

Two replies, one serious, one not - you decide which is which.

Pingu (not a BBC production) sets very poor family values.

Why??

Pingu is a Penguin.

Pingu's Dad is a Penguin.

Pingu's Mum is a Penguin.

Pingu's baby sister is a PUFFIN!!!!!

And since we saw Mum lay and hatch the egg, we can only presume she has been cheating on Pingu's Dad.

GiggleBiz; the name concerns me as it sounds like they are ripping off the good name of an educational software company that make a series of Nursery and Primary school games under the "Gigglebies" name; a bit like starting up a consumer electronics firm called "Appel"

Say both of them together and try and tell the difference.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

I think if you did the same for the other BBC channels, your list won't be as long ...

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

Pingu's baby sister also has a rather unfortunate name. Look it up.

Also, where's Humf and Spot on the list?

As for Clangers, well, having been through a lot on the internet the word hits me as humorous. Hope the show's good tho.

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"Also, where's Humf and Spot on the list?"

"Humf" is on Nick Junior. You can tell it's not a BBC program, because it's good.

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> Pingu's baby sister is a PUFFIN!!!!!

According to Wikipedia (I'm SO not the target audience for Pingu...) Pinga is supposed to be a baby Emperor penguin.

A puffin and a penguin would have to go some to "get it on", given they are at pretty much different ends of the planet.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

was there actually anything Italian in it ?

well, the first 15 minutes are in Venice aren't they?

if you watch the whole film, it's because their idea to steal the whole security truck by exploding the road from under it, just like they stole the whole safe by exploding the floors beneath it "in the Italian job" which they did at the start of the film.

all that aside, it is undoubtably an abomination and besmirch upon the memory of the original film and should never have been allowed.

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

i'm just hoping they hurry up and remake Roland Rat!!

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

I'm still waiting for the original Captain Scarlet series to end, stuff the CGI version I want Closure!!!

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Re: Why can't they write some new programmes?

"in bloody America, was there actually anything Italian in it ?"

My dear boy you must understand that Americans sometimes claim ethnicity based upon fractional gene participation acquired in the great-great-great ancestry and beyond, and that some elliptical speech was being used.

The full title of the remake is "The Italian/American Job".

Actually, that doesn't work either since the star claims to be Irish (see first paragraph).

As you were.

I don't think there is anyone over the age of 20 who honestly thinks the remake is superior to the original provided:

a) They have *seen* the original - it is a bit rare in these here transatlantic parts

2) They understand the difference between chromakey and doing stuff for real.

Next up: The remake of The Flight of the Phoenix: Flogging offense or Hanging offense?

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I preferred the Mash's take

Clangers to return as social realist drama:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/clangers-to-return-as-social-realist-drama-2013101580383

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So, the BBC CAN still sink lower

According to a 'retrospective' I saw a few years back, the original Clangers was scripted, and the dialogue (yes, all the whistling and wooOOooo'ing was a written script) had to get approval. No douby they'll lose all that wit & whimsy with some irrelevant heavy-handed electronic whistles, with voiceover propaganda.

environmental politics at the fore; it;s a KIDS programm, ffs. Stop with the lefty brainwashing in primary school, please.

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Re: So, the BBC CAN still sink lower

Wasn't there an urban myth\truth about one of the Clangers whistling 'Sod It' when something didn't work?

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As I remember the myth/truth, it was "The bloody thing's stuck again" when a door failed to open, and it was cut from the original broadcast despite being whistled...

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"environmental politics at the fore; it;s a KIDS programm, ffs."

Nothing new here. Wasn't recycling stuff pretty much the basis of The Wombles?

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It's no myth... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OvefhhMbbg

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Re: So, the BBC CAN still sink lower

No the wombles was all about the Thatcherite vision of a race of sub-humans genetically engineered (well they only had one female) troglodyte morlocks, never to be seen and clean up after the waste of the consumer society. It was typical facist BBC propaganda of the ultimate tory contempt of the working class.

I believe Chorlton and the wheelies directly influenced TopGear

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It was "Oh Sod it! The bloody thing's stuck again!". It was broadcast, it is in the DVDs, and is the whistle produced by the voicebox of every cuddly Clanger sold.

In the episode where the Iron Chicken rampades her way through the Small Blue Planet there are, to the careful listener, at least a few "F"s and I'm fairly certain I heard a "C" in another episode.

10/10 for Postgate and Firmin for that wonderful bit of subversion; yes.

(P.S. Mr. Firmin's artwork is just as beautiful and as quirky as ever: http://www.peterfirmin.co.uk/)

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> As I remember the myth/truth, it was "The bloody thing's stuck again" when a door failed to open,

> and it was cut from the original broadcast despite being whistled...

Possibly apocryphal, but I did get it from an interview with Oliver Postgate on the radio. The line was "Oh damn it, the bloody thing's stuck again", which the BBC forced them to change even though it was just done with whistles. The whistles were exactly the same, they just changed the words in the "script".

That was also the sample that was used in a toy.

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Swear like Troopers

Loved the description from the beeb site. Apparently the Clangers whistles are supposed to be proper sentences converted and they are supposed to swear like troopers.

Hope they do a better job than most of the reboots we've seen.

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You mean you can't understand them? I could (when 5) and still can (when suitably inebriated)!

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Re: Swear like Troopers

May be an urban myth (I do so hope not) but when they were trying to sell it to a German(?) TV channel they offered to re-do the soundtrack but the visiting execs refused the offer as they could understand what the Clangers were 'saying'

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Fond memories

I do hope the Iron Chicken will still be made of Meccano.

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I'd have preferred a £10/£20 reduction in the license fee to be quite honest.

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Expensive...

wolfetone "I'd have preferred a £10/£20 reduction in the license fee to be quite honest."

Where did it say that this was going to cost £250-£500 million pounds a year? That's the discount you're asking for.

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Guessimates:

60M people, 2 per house, gives approx 30M households paying TV licences.

5M production value, split between 30M households, cost to each licence payer is 17p.

I think I can spot why you're being downvoted.

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Licence

Doubtless, you need to save up for a dictionary.

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Re: Licence

Depends if it was intended to be a noun or a verb in that sentence, the TV licence payer is granted license to watch TV in the UK.

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@Pond

While what you say is correct regarding the noun and verb versions of the word, I believe in this context it was intended to be licence fee - it being the fee of the licence rather than the licensing of the fee?

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Re: Licence

I think a lot of BBC staff members read The Register.

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"I think a lot of BBC staff members read The Register."

Well, it's not as if they're busy.

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More of this sort of thing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8425387.stm

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The new Clangers will explore themes including "community and caring for the planet"

It's not a planet!!

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Oliver Postgate

Bound to fail without him.

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What environment?

They live on a lifeless grey husk with barely an atmosphere to speak off and an escape velocity so low clangers routinely managed to float off and needed rescue. The only other non-robotic complex life form left is a dragon-like creature that has to dig deep beneath the surface to survive on geothermal heat and microorganism-rich subterranian lakes, making only occasional trips to the surface to trade with the surface-dwellers. Their world is about as much of a planet as Pluto.

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Re: What environment?

I always thought the clangers was set on the moon!

Anyway, I'd have preferred a new series of "Mongrels"!

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It is so a planet

And I think they always were ecologically concerned, precisely because their little world is ecologically fragile. Anything that lands on them from space could be an environmental disaster, including space probes.

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Re: What environment?

Well to be fair they have all been moved to Salford

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I take it no one has seen the Bob the Bastard Builder lately?

My boy watches it and that's all green design now with solar panels, wind farms, recycled material and even organic pineapple growing (I shit you not).

And conveniently none of his significant fleet of heavy plant bellows out as which as a whiff of black smoke.

Bastard.

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Re: I take it no one has seen the Bob the Bastard Builder lately?

I do love the mixed messages it sends out though.

The fact they discover this pristine valley then proceeded to build all over it. Apparently it's fine to destroy the countryside as long as you grow organic pineapples.

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Re: I take it no one has seen the Bob the Bastard Builder lately?

Did you see the "Bob The Builder" Christmas special in which Santa Claus was revealed to be Bob's brother in a costume? On a Christmas show for small children. Fuck the BBC, really.

Compare to "Peppa Pig", where the end credits tell you that Father Christmas was played by himself.

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Environmentally Friendly Clangers

I can't wait. I do hope it's as good as Captain Planet.

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