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A leaked manual for Google's next flagship phone, the Nexus 5, shows a filled-out screen, a faster CPU, more memory and full 4G support, but no shocks, in the ongoing evolution of Android. The manual, leaked to Android Police, is an engineering tome packed with technical specifications and debug procedures, enough to show that …

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Well, the guy that leaked that won't stay is his job for long (or shouldn't do). That's a serious failure in security. One does wonder whether he/she has actually broken the law as well.

As for the phone - well, doesn't take a rocket engineer to figure bigger screen, wireless charging, faster CPU and bigger RAM.

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Double the internal capacity from 16GB to 32GB, RAM is the same 2GB you already get with the Nexus 4.

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Why do LG care?

Everyone already knew it was pretty much a re-hash of the LG G2.

Thats been out for a while, anyone can go buy one and stare at the board layout.

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Same old, same old... but what do you expect.

Fingerprint sensors are a decent step but of course we've seen them before. Wireless charging - not a lot of point if it's slower and / or they have not actually decided on a standard. Bigger screen, faster CPU - yawn.

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"Fingerprint sensors are a decent step..."

I saw this headline on hckrnews:

"Fingerprints are usernames, not passwords."

It's probably the most concise summary of this topic - ever.

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LG v Samsung

No we might see some more high value litigation rather than the old Apple v Samsung.

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Re: LG v Samsung

>Everyone already knew it was pretty much a re-hash of the LG G2.

The G2 has some nice features... none that would cause people to go 'Wow!, but nice nonetheless, such as the screen that saves the GPU power (although others use this too), the bi-wiring that saves on bezel space, and the high definition audio playback. The LG G2 seems to have suffered (in terms of media exposure) from being the 4th entry to a race that already included the S4, HTC One, and Sony Z variants.

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re: as for the phone

... and no removable storage?

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Re: "Fingerprint sensors are a decent step..."

"Fingerprints are usernames, not passwords."

But you can still change your username (sometimes). Once someone has your fingerprint, it'll be a painful process to change it.

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If you want one now I have an example that also includes a handy s-pen, 4K video and the words 'Samsung' and 'Note-3' written on it.

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I love the specs on the Note 3 but you will probably be able to buy 2 Nexus 5s for the price for 1 Note 3.

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Ah yes the Samsung with Touch-Wiz... "A lesson in how to take a incredibly fast CPU and gorgeous looking n' smooth OS and slow it down and make it butt-ugly"

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It's very fast, runs at that speed for 3+ days on one charge, looks beautiful in my and everyone else who has seen it's opinion and you don't have one ...

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TouchWiz

Yeah, and there's absolutely no way whatsoever to use another launcher either.

Oh, wait.

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But the benchmarks show it is the fastest phone around ;)

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@AC that's a touch too subtle, perhaps.

Seems a strange game for Samsung to play... non-geeks don't care about benchmarks, true geeks know that their benchmarks are cooked...

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You're right Phil... I don't have one. But I've had the GS2, GS3 and have daily access to the GS4... Touchwiz is 'orrible, compared to stock OS (I'm talking design not features) Also, if you take Samsung's ROm off off and flash a stock Android 4.x ROM, both the S3 and S4 are much quicker and smoother. Samsung must code their overlay in Visual Basic or something.... Plus it's nice to have quick access to Google Now, one of the best software innovations in years, but surprise surprise Samsung make it harder to access.

....What's your problem with 'swipe up' Samsung...?

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The sad thing is..

The bit of the specification that excites me most is "notification light".

Some things - the notification light and the Jog Dial -- were so fundamental to what made early Blackberries great you have to wonder why no-one uses them.

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Re: The sad thing is..

The Nexus 4 has a notification light..

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Re: The sad thing is..

Blackberry Notification light

so when you wake in the middle of the night, you have to figure out why your bedroom is lit with an unearthly pulsating red glow....

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Re: The sad thing is..

The Note-3 has a very useful and totally configurable notification light. I've missed the one on my Nokia N900 until last week when my Note-3 arrived. My Note-1 didn't have a light.

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Re: The sad thing is..

The Nexus 4 has the nicest notification light I've ever seen... simply beautiful (and doesn't light up the entire room at night)

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Re: The sad thing is..

Cylons. Bloody cylons.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Xperia Z

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Re: The sad thing is..

Notification light?

Wow how technology has moved on from my £10 Motorola w220 from about 2006.

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Re: The sad thing is..

> The Note-3 has a very useful and totally configurable notification light.

That's great. It also has a region lock if I'm not mistaken. That's not so good.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Try NoLED. It puts notification symbols on your screen that tell you what kind of notification it is (e.g. e-mail arriving for a particular account, txt message, etc). These are customisable for colour and symbol set. You can set it to supress the screen display if the case cover is closed and set 'quiet times'.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Easily pleased obviously.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Amusing to see someone with exactly the same upgrade path to me (Nokia N900->Note 1->Note 3)

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Re: The sad thing is..

Get an app then. There are apps that can supress the notification LED's between certain hours... The power of Android is unlimited, if there is a GPIO pin, then someone's written an app to tweak something.

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@Elron Re: The sad thing is..

For the sake of comparison, I went n900->xperia mini pro (which was awful)->xperia pro

I couldn't live without the physical keyboard. Even with the screen size of these latest phones, the lack of tactile feedback from a screen just confuses my fingers. It's a failing. If I could get some sort of clip-on bluetooth keyboard that suppressed the on-screen keyboard I'd switch in a heartbeat.

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Re: The sad thing is..

HTC One has one, Galaxy phones have them. The HTC One at least hides its light neatly in the top grill, not shining through cheapo plastic like the Samungs do.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Xperias have LED notification lights, different colours for different alerts. Strange thing is, all I would want from a 'smart watch' is a notification light.

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Re: The sad thing is..

Mine certainly doesn't light up the room - I put it in airplane mode overnight ;)

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Too late too late

Deep in my research cavern my minions are already manufacturing parts based on these designs. Google will soon be a thing of the past Bwahhhh ha ha ha.

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Really? High speed digital design is not black magic, and a mobile phone chip uses standard interfaces.

Might be useful to someone trying to mod the handset I guess...

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Should publish these for all phones

OK I'm fairly sure I have the right leaked service manual in front of me and i can see "16Gb(SDRAM DDR2)" which I'm quite certain is wrong, unless they are using 14Gb of it for the baseband, which would be wasteful.

One thing I particularly appreciate is they list how many bars in the signal strength == what dBm.

I would paste the table here but I'm sure that would draw the ire of the moderator.

I for one salute LG for there attempt at ending the bullshit that is random uncalibrated signal strength meters, and I shall be happy in the knowledge that if I am ever using LTE and have 4 bars I have better than -85dBm±3dBm signal strength.

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Re: Should publish these for all phones

Gb usually means gigabits. GB usually menas gigabytes (16 gigabits = 2 gigabytes)

V.

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My S4 has a notification light

One of the reasons I chose the S4 for my work phone to replace an old blackberry

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Re: My S4 has a notification light

So does my HTC 8X windows phone.

Must say I prefer the Nexus pale grey light though.

Then again as soon as this is availabel my mint nexus 4 and the HTC will be sold to but the 5......

Also notice no mention of the camera in the article that most others are making a big thing about being miles better than not only the current Nexus but pretty much anything else out there.....

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/nexus-5-lytro-like-mems-camera-outed-in-leaked-files-1185946

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124145-nexus-5-details-leak-in-service-manual-32gb-storage-8mp-ois-camera

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>Also notice no mention of the camera in the article that most others are making a big thing about being miles better than not only the current Nexus but pretty much anything else out there.....

The two links you gave contradict each other. The first says it's a MEMS camera with no OIS, the second one says it has OIS and doesn't mention MEMS. The second one sounds more likely but that doesn't say it's miles better than anything else! It's got OIS - could be nice but not ground breaking.

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I've seen things you people would not believe.

Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and Nexus 7. They are definitely taunting us.

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Re: I've seen things you people would not believe.

Well, you surely wouldn't want a nexus-6 haunting you!

(And Dick's lawyers would have a field day. if they tried...)

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Re: I've seen things you people would not believe.

Re: Blade runner no one would ever confuse a nexus 6 from google with a clone. ..... No wait.

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Don't think so.

> One can be certain that engineers from every other phone manufacturer are already delighting in the insights offered.

This is the type of thing that every other phone manufacturer will ban their engineers from seeing.

Any manufacturer that solves the problems in similar way to LG and had their engineers look at this could find themselves at the wrong of a losing lawsuit.

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Come on people...

Its marketing bullshit, it was leak for people to talk about in the masturbatorium of mobile stuff and things.

ok, its a cheap phone with good specs - nothing to see here.

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Will it be cheap as chips like the Nexus 4?

The Nexus 4 was a total steal (I am a proud owner). If they do the same this time and sell it below cost I will be getting a Nexus 5 (LG G2) as well.

Hopefully it doesn't have the stupid buttons on the back though.

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The phone will be out in 3 weeks.

Any company that was really interested would buy one and take it apart? What have LG lost really? Nothing. They have the interwebz talking about the Nexus 4 2013 model, and that's what really matters.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised it this was the latest form of "phone found in bar", which got old a while back.

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