back to article Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois

Fanbois and Fandroids often attract derision for their slavish devotion to their preferred kit, but may just have been put in the shade by dedicated followers of … Windows 8. Yes, you read that right. Windows 8 has dedicated followers. Or to use Microsoft's wording, “our most enthusiastic customers”. The verbiage above comes …

COMMENTS

This topic is closed for new posts.

Page:

"Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

What - both of them?

7
8
Silver badge

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

Yeah, with their 162 computers.

12
1
Silver badge

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

No one in the world uses 81 windows devices on the same account....

Unless you can prove me wrong?

1
1
Silver badge

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

user: admin

password: admin

5
0
Silver badge

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

I think the idea is that a small or medium sized business could have all their computers on the one corporate account.

0
0
Happy

apples & pears

The big difference is that Windows 8 allows multiple logons to the same device, where apple likes you to run the risk of in-app purchases every time you let a kid use your iPad.

A tech family will easily hit the limit with a PC, laptop & few tables without much sharing or any duplication.

3
1
Anonymous Coward

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

No one in the world uses 81 windows devices on the same account....

Think its probaly that the previous limit of 5 was seen to be too small so needed to be increased .... given that something like 10 or 20 might be seen as "easily sufficient" there's always the ghost of "640kB RAM is plenty" around so they wanted a big number ... and choosing 81 at the same time as launching Windows 8.1 seemed like a good way of competing with Google's penchanty for "cute numbers" (e.g. their bid for that patent bundle of "pi million dollars".

1
0

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

You're missing the point aren't you?

That a user will never have to worry or be limited to logging on their account to another device and be limited because, as you said, no one uses 81 devices with the same account.

You have the fact in hand, just not the point buddy.

0
0

Re: "Windows 8 fans out-enthuse Apple fanbois"

Have a think about businesses.

your may have multiple tablets that are used by employees

also PCs at key locations and not just you personal PC and phone.

All of these systems may need access by multiple people.

This is more enterprise thinking not toy thinking

which is personal use.

0
0
Silver badge

Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

One wonders how many of the fan bois are being payed by microsoft to spout this nonsense.

(Don't get me wrong, apple's OSX is a bloated piece of shit too.)

6
24
Silver badge
WTF?

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

What do you actually mean by that? Can you give real, actual examples of what you see as needless bloat? And what is your ideal operating system that does not exhibit this bloat?

GJC

6
4
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

"What do you actually mean by that?"

What part of "bloated piece of shit" do you not understand?

"Can you give real, actual examples of what you see as needless bloat?"

Uh ... gigabytes of crap that aren't actually useful to the userbase?

"And what is your ideal operating system that does not exhibit this bloat?"

TOPS10/20 ... BSD comes close. I personally run Slackware.

5
21
Anonymous Coward

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

And what is your ideal operating system that does not exhibit this bloat?

RSX-11M+ ?

2
0

This post has been deleted by a moderator

This post has been deleted by its author

Bronze badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

"Uh ... gigabytes of crap that aren't actually useful to the userbase?"

*facepalm*

7
3

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Ahh, so because you don't like it that must mean people who do must've been paid to like it.

I like Windows 8 and I've yet to be offered money from Microsoft.

It's not perfect (no software is) and it wont match everyone's tastes (no software will) but it matches my usage and as a consumer that's all I care about. The People's hub means I'm not logging onto Facebook or Twitter individually. The Live Tile means I don't have to check my emails or the websites to see if I have any new notifications. That is a significant part of my main usage of my PC and its easier and quicker in Windows 8

8
7
Silver badge

@ MattEvansC3 (was:Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.)

Enjoy your bliss, consumer. Who am I to tell you what to do.

2
13
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

RSX-11 Was bloated when compared to RT-11

2
0
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Jesus, look at the disk space Windows retail pack occupies. Each iteration gets bigger and bigger. Win 3.1 came on a boxful of floppies, Win7 on a DVD.

The growth has a lot to do with added (often pointless) features obviously, but lazy coding and cruft too.

I wish I could still demonstrate how an early DOS computer could have a Word Processor and some documents all running from a single floppy disk.

5
3
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

"I wish I could still demonstrate how an early DOS computer could have a Word Processor and some documents all running from a single floppy disk."

I can. IBM 5150, DOS 0.96beta and WP. Still runs quite nicely ...

And it's a hell of a lot faster, seat of the pants, that the "modern" MSOffice on Win8 ...

2
6
Thumb Down

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Two UI's for a start? The windows 7 feel and the useless "was called Metro but isn't anymore."

Two internet browsers (Actually 3 if you include the 64 and 32 bit versions)

The list can easily go on but I should be working.

3
3
Anonymous Coward

Re: @ MattEvansC3 (was:Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.)

@Jake: "Who am I to tell you what to do."

Isn't that basically all you do here? You bang on about everything as if you're the expert in every subject known to man, delivering lectures about how great you are and how your way of doing everything is the best, peppered with crass references to how much money you have.

You should probably look this up and try to understand it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

14
1

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

@jake - One wonders how many of the fan bois are being payed by microsoft to spout this nonsense.

I got paid by Microsoft to like Windows 7. They've not paid me to like Windows 8 yet so I don't.

6
0
Anonymous Coward

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

>And it's a hell of a lot faster, seat of the pants, that the "modern" MSOffice on Win8 ...

I 'd love to see it deal with an embedded visio diagram

4
1

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

RSTS/E or RT11

1
0
Bronze badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Or even a .docx file. Or a .odt file.

1
1
Bronze badge
Joke

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

>One wonders how many of the fan bois are being payed by microsoft to spout this nonsense.

Who knows ?

But counting your down votes, 19 of them read elReg, that is for sure.

4
2
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

RSX-11 Was bloated when compared to RT-11

It was bigger, but the extra was useful, not unnecessary bloat. Well, mostly...

1
0
Bronze badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Been there since the days of CP/M. Happily left those days behind. Even an Atari ST with Word Processor is a lot less useful/capabel than a Atom based tablet pc with Word Processor. And the old Mega ST4 was a mighty powerful box in it's days

0
1
JLV
Bronze badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

So... anything your royal highness is not using is a piece of shit, basically? No explanations necessary?

Oh, do grow up.

I realize cutting out tard comments like yours would cut Reg traffic by 30% but I sure wouldna miss them.

The reason fanbois get no respect is precisely because they act like you.

3
1
Silver badge

@AC1138 (was: Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.)

The point was OS+word processor. Visio isn't exactly part of the issue.

0
0
Silver badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

"Or even a .docx file.

An anathema foisted on idiots by microsoft.

" Or a .odt file."

microsoft's implementation isn't exactly what I would call ".odf compliant".

0
2
Anonymous Coward

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

@ jake "Uh ... gigabytes of crap that aren't actually useful to the userbase?"

Here's the thing - when your user base numbers almost a billion, even minutely small percentages of that have to be considered when adding features. No question, Windows isn't a lightweight OS, but that's because it singularly fills the needs of nearly a billion users. And despite including so many features for so many people, it remains surprisingly fast and simple install and use.

@ jake "BSD comes close. I personally run Slackware."

I like Linux/Unix as much as the next guy, but anyone who promotes it in the context of a desktop OS for average every day people instantly looses all credibility. It's a disaster when it comes to comprehend-ability, ease of install, setup, management and use - for the average person. Sure, an Alpha Nerd or network/sys admin might have no problem, but the average person who just wants to sit down and be productive has neither the knowledge, nor the time or interest in gaining such knowledge, to be able to use Linux/Unix on an ongoing basis.

3
2
Bronze badge

Re: Win8 is a bloated piece of shit.

Your petty prejudices aside, the fact remains that the aged system discussed won't read most people's documents, which was the point being made.

1
1

Microsoft's one device per city is coming into fruition.

:-)

4
1
Bronze badge

Amazon's way of doing it

Their 'AppStore' program normally remembers your Amazon details, but every time you have to re-enter them for some unknown reason to log into it on an Android device, it goes 'Ooooh, a new device!!! Let me create "Ian's Nexus 7 10" to go with "Ian's Nexus 7 9" and "Ian's Nexus 7 8" and "Ian's Nexus 7 7" and "Ian's Nexus 7 6" and "Ian's Nexus 7 5" and "Ian's Nexus 7 4" and "Ian's Nexus 7 3" and "Ian's Nexus 7 2" and "Ian's Nexus 7"!!! There's no chance that they could actually be the same bit of kit..."

Then it complains you have too many devices and so can't run the programs until you go to the Amazon website and delete some of this stupidity.

2
1
Silver badge

Re: Amazon's way of doing it

Nope have 4 android devices with App-store and never once have I seen that.

1
0
Bronze badge

Re: Amazon's way of doing it

Have you looked at your account to see how many devices Amazon think you have? Do you ever have to re-enter your account details on it?

If it really doesn't do this for you, delete the date for the AppStore and see what it does. I would be very interested to know if it doesn't create a new device, because it's doing it here on three bits of kit running on Android 4.0, 4.2 and 4.3.

0
0

Re: Amazon's way of doing it

Ooh yes it's doing that for me too. Who knew?

Thanks for the tip, when it runs out I shall know why.

Actually I don't know why it apparently randomly requires re-logins to Amazon apps from time to time anyway.

0
0
Silver badge
Linux

Walled garden or walled wasteland?

Complicated licensing, hoops to jump through, restrictions. reliance on an ID database that could go titsup.

Is this really the OS of the 21st. century?

6
0
Silver badge

Will no one think of the developers?

So, theoretically, developers of Apple apps can expect to sell 8.1 times more apps to Apple users than developers of Windows apps can expect to sell to Windows users.

Now, there's probably a fair balance between developers and users to be found here, but I'm feeling it's closer to 10 than 81.

1
1
Silver badge

Re: Will no one think of the developers?

I rather think the chances of any given Apple user buying the same app 8.1 times is pretty low.

You do understand that Windows 8 / RT has actual user accounts, yes?

2
1
Silver badge

Re: Will no one think of the developers?

> I rather think the chances of any given Apple user buying the same app 8.1 times is pretty low.

Indeed. The kids and I share the same Apple account and have therefore installed the same app, bought once, on multiple devices (just not yet 10 of them.) Had we been running on separate accounts then we would have had to buy the same app multiple times.

I had assumed that the new Windows install limit of 81 meant 81 installs on different devices, but your next comment makes me doubt this:

> You do understand that Windows 8 / RT has actual user accounts, yes?

Are you telling me that if you have more than 81 user accounts on the same Windows 8 / RT box then Microsoft will want you to buy another copy of the apps? Is this 81 install limit really counting installs on the same device, rather than on separate devices?

If so, Microsoft have failed to "get it" more than I had ever imagined.

0
0
Silver badge
Windows

Sigh....

81??

Who sat down and decreed "The number is 81".

Hell, make it 84 then at least we can assume it was some funny play on the meaning of life, the universe and everything....Like a back up or redundancy system "joke" or something slightly tongue-in-cheek...

For the minute however, I am suffering utter pericombobulation trying to work out why 81...

2
2
Silver badge

Re: Sigh....

It's the Buzz Lightyear number - infinity + 1

5
0

Re: Sigh....

The only thing I can think of is that is a play on the version number of Windows, 8.1 -> 81

2
0

Re: Sigh....

Gee, could it possibly be because of the upcoming update to Windows 8.1?

Shocking I know.

3
0
Bronze badge
Coat

Re: Sigh....

For the minute however, I am suffering utter pericombobulation trying to work out why 81...

For why? They're obviously preparing for IPv6 and the "Internet of Things". Having 81 licenses/machines should definitely be enough for anyone!

1
0
Meh

Re: Sigh....

But when you do ver at the command prompt, it claims 6.4.

I'm so damned confused.

0
1

Page:

This topic is closed for new posts.

Forums