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Apple has banned any fanbois running iOS 7 from reverting back to a previous version of the iDevice operating system. Fanbois who downloaded the latest release or developer beta of iOS 7 had the option of retreating back to the warm (and functional) cocoon offered by iOS 6. But with the release of the latest update to its mobile …

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Anonymous Coward

Surely you can brick the phone and reapply older iOS manually, otherwise you'd have to ask what kind of moron releases an operating system upgrade that you can't rollback?

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Holmes

And here I thought that the first word of the article's title would be clue enough...

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Why is anyone surprised?

From the very beginning Apple have been a company that doesn't shy away of laying down the law when it wants to. It's not unusual for it to adopt the "My Way or the Highway" attitude. I think this approach is both good and bad.

If you're an iPhone user/licensee that wants to go back to the older iOS, I implore you... go throw on a nice cardigan and maybe a suit jacket, go get yourself a Latte from Starbucks, sit down, take a sip and then look deep in your heart and ask yourself: "Who am I to dilute Apple's brand image?".

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Who cares?

The change from iOS 6 to iOS 7 won't even register on the Richter scale of tech in a years time let alone 10 years. While it is the 'next big thing' today it will have no real significance in any history book.

So who cares anyway?

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Re: Who cares?

That's true of 98% of all Human endeavor. We like to think of ourselves and the things we do as meaningful. They almost always aren't. Besides, most technology doesn't make it into the history books long term.

Electricity, accurate time keeping, photography, putting things into space and nuclear based science are big deals and changed human history, prior to that most history book "worthy" technology involved digging bigger holes than the last guy and stacking the materials from those holes in neat and exciting new shapes.

Look at the lightning rod. It made stunning changes in Human civilization and elevated Benjamin Franklin to near deity status. General history doesn't get into that, I highly doubt Apple products will factor into history much.

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FFS

"Some dyed-in-the-wool Apple fans have been grumbling about the new design of iOS 7"

Serves them f'ing right for choosing to use Apple or MS rather than a freedomware option where they can play to their hearts' content.

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Re: FFS

At least with my iPhone I can rock up to any phone shop in the world and buy a SIM that will work in it since it was bought unlocked as is required by local law here in NZ. Go buy a European Samsung phone and do the same, I dare you.

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Re: FFS

What are you trying to say? I have a 'European Samsung' Phone and can put in any SIM I want.

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Re: FFS

I have a secondary Android that has accepted Russian, Abu Dhabi, Iraq and various other forms of SIM. It is currently running on a Portuguese SIM.

I get sick and tired of all this rubbish. It is all horses for courses. When I look around me I have IOS6, Android and cheap disposable Nokias as phones. On my desktop I have Macs {various versions of OSX}, Linux, Win 7 and Win 8 (8 as tester for custom apps and databases).

I chose my horse for the job in hand, I also cut my cloth accordingly.

Lets leave out the religion and realise we live in a big chateau with many rooms.

I would like to say however that Sainsbury, Tesco and Asda are rubbish yet Pound Land rocks ;)

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Re: FFS

I think he was referring to this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/26/travel_much_dont_buy_a_samsung_galaxy_note_3/

Well, Samsung has lost my respect after this move. Move out of Europe and you're boned. Which, IMO, is just stupid.

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no you can't revert

because Apple have stopped signing the iOS 6.1.4 ipsw bundle, just a few days after releasing iOS7.0

you CAN download the old firmwares here http://www.ipswdownloader.com/download-iphone-ipsw-files.php

but at present you can't run it.

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Re: FFS

"Serves them f'ing right for choosing to use Apple or MS rather than a freedomware option where they can play to their hearts' content."

I don't think freedom and choice mean quite what you think they mean.

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Joke

Title is too long.

"Some dyed-in-the-wool Apple fans have been grumbling about the new design of iOS 7, complaining about its saccharine colour scheme, unfamiliar new processes and redesigned icons."

They're just looking at it wrong.

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Re: Title is too long.

> its saccharine colour scheme

Does that refer to the (yellowish) colour #FBBE18, or the artificial sweetness?

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Re: Title is too long.

They are just annoyed that they could have got a better version of the same UI, and a better camera for less if they had bought a Nokia Lumia instead....

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Re: Title is too long.

Do you think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture?

When does the alcoholiday begin?

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Ouch.

Can you jailbreak it yet?

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Re: Ouch.

And this is likely to be the next instalment of this Saga. Apple have gone to great lengths to block going back. Why do that, unless you plan on eliminating jailbreaking...

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"eliminating" jailbreaking

They've been planning on eliminating jailbreaking since jailbreaking. No joy yet, and I doubt they'll ever truly get rid of it.

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It's fine.

Eventually, they'll get over the shock of the change and realise that it's all new and shiny.

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Yeah but...

...at least the fashion victims will now have a waterproof iDevice.

*titter*

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Re: Yeah but...

In fairness it's not waterproof, just very clever in that when it detects the moisture, it shuts down the hydrosensitive components. Now that *is* clever.

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Re: Yeah but...that would be clever...

...IF it were true. But it's not. It was a joke and a few dim fanbois believed it. And bricked their phones.

Anything else Cliff?

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Re: Yeah but...that would be clever...

Downvoted for truth, well I've never seen such a thing on El Reg before....

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Re: Yeah but...that would be clever...

>>Anything else Cliff<<

Luckily I can tell when people are joking, and I trust other members here are smart enough to do likewise.

In error, maybe?

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Re: Yeah but...

Unless it's raining and you're trying to call a cab.

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Re: Yeah but...that would be clever...

>It was a joke and a few dim fanbois believed it. And bricked their phones.

Were the many too slow to get it?

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Meh

News?

This has been standard iOS behaviour since the iPhone 4, no? Everything after the 3GS required a jailbreak in order to go backwards.

Doesn't surprise me much though - PSP and PS3 exhibit this behaviour too.

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Re: News?

Yep, this is a non-story.

All firmware upgrades have had the Apple digital signature taken off after the new one has been released. Obviously you could go back to IOS6.1.4 when the betas were out because IOS6.1.4 was still the official version, therefore still signed.

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Re: News?

The issue is the large change to the user experience which isn't considered a good one by many users. Had they offered the option to keep the old icon set, there would be fewer complaints.

"the fastest upgrade in history" is little to crow about when there is no option to undo an accidental or unwanted upgrade and there is no convenient "try before you buy."

The apple icons are distinctive - I doubt brand is the issue. I suspect the real reason to prevent going back is that each upgrade makes the older harder less usable, driving further new hardware purchases.

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Re: News?

Brand was never the issue, considering Apple have not let you go back for quite a few versions now. The actual reason is because they don't want to keep on signing older versions as it facilitated jailbreaks.

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Re: News?

Makes the older harder (sic) less usable? I don't know about 7.0, but many people reported that the 3gs became faster when 6.x was installed on it.

Apple haters always see everything they do as a ploy to sell more hardware, because they don't like the fact that people who like their products choose to buy them. They're so narrow-minded they think the conclusion they reach about Apple vs. Android is the only possible one, and anyone who thinks differently must be getting tricked into making the purchase somehow.

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Re: News?

>Everything after the 3GS required a jailbreak in order to go backwards.

>Doesn't surprise me much though - PSP and PS3 exhibit this behaviour too.

If Apple had been more open about it being a sort of games console, fair enough, but that's not how they want it to be seen, is it?

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Re: News?

"I don't know about 7.0, but many people reported that the 3gs became faster when 6.x was installed on it."

Ars Technica reported the improved performance characteristics of 6,x on a 3GS very clearly - with measurements to prove it. My personal experience matched this.

The same crowd (AT) report significant battery use issues with the iPhone5 when upgrading to iOS7. I suspect iOS7 would run on any hardware from 3GS onwards, but Apple marketing seems to be that phones will "drop off" the supported list with each new iPhone generation.

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The Apple Philosophy

A nice juicy fresh carrot, that comes with a BIG stick.

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Re: The Apple Philosophy

More like a nice BIG juicy carrot, that comes with a jar of lube.

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Holmes

At least if your old colour TV looked like iOS7...

You could mend it with a quick degauss.

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Peak Apple

I guess some people always have to have something to complain about.

Not owning (nor desiring to own) an iPhone, I can't see what all the fuss is about.

They sold themselves to Apple when they entered the walled garden and started to invest in iOS.

Apple pwns them. Apple can do what it likes with them. Peak Apple.

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Re: Peak Apple

You realise you can't just stick "peak apple" in a paragraph and expect it to mean anything.

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Anonymous Coward

mmm...

"The latest operating system accounted for about about half of all American iOS web traffic just one week after its launch" As would windows 8 if MS gave it away for free, but for some reason they think the steaming POS is something worth buying!

Interestingly with this release, Apple seem to have learnt the MS trick of throwing half of what their users know and understand of the OS in the bin.

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Re: mmm...

> "As would windows 8 if MS gave it away for free,"

I seriously doubt that.

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Re: mmm...

"Interestingly with this release, Apple seem to have learnt the MS trick of throwing half of what their users know and understand of the OS in the bin."

A patently ridiculous statement

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Re: mmm...

Quite right.

iOS 7 isn't that different.

IGMC - it's the one with the Nexus 4 in the pocket.

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Anonymous Coward

Wrong.....

Even developers are warned not to revert back. The brave can do it, but Apple says not too and says you can't.

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Anonymous Coward

Stupidly updated to this on my old iPad2... what a farce. Looks like some kids tablet now.

What is the point of the moving paralax effect? Turned it off. The window in/out animation is now slow (on an iPad2 at least)

the "control centre" is pathetic. A little pull up slide with 'fashionable' minimalistic icons to turn on/off a couple of functions and adjust the volume and brightness. turned that off 'cause I kept pulling it up by mistake.

The icons and colours look like pre-school. The standard apps have been given a 'simplified' effect for the sake of it and look like crap, plain, dull and lifeless.

Any chance of the old icons and look, could do it with a simple theme... oh, of course, Apple doesn't even support themes does it...

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Well I have yet to upgrade on my iPad2, but all app updates have the new style of icons, so you are probably no worse off. I agree they should have offered a choice of either new or old style icons, but hey they are Apple and they would like to think they know best. Me I will not be updating to iOS7 till something forces me to.

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If you hate the control center, why the hell did you install it in the first place? Its the only good point of the whole thing.

Personally, I installed it because I wanted the control center, because I wanted to be able to turn bluetooth and wifi on and off without dropping out of my current app and digging through settings, which I need to do a lot, and I wanted that so urgently I'm willing to put up with everything else (at least until a jailbreak for it comes out, and I can revert the rest of the bullshit). I'm running an iPad 4, though, so the performance isn't an issue.

But to get back to you for a moment, seriously, WTF? Did you not research it beforehand? Because if you put on the upgrade blind, after the iOS6 apple maps fiasco, you're a moron who deserves everything he gets.

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Re: The icons and colours look like pre-school

Haven't you heard ? Pre-school is the new future. It's hip and trendy. Everybody likes it !

Well, except people who actually need to work, of course, but who cares about their opinion, eh ? Work is sooo not hip.

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If you hate the control center, why the hell did you install it in the first place?

Because you're going to have to eventually, so you might as well get it over with.

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Saccharine

Are the reg writers having some kind of competition to see who can use the word saccharine the most or what? We've had it every day since Tuesday (so I can see from the search)

It's like reading a book when the author insists on using the same rare adjective over and over again

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