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China has told the 64th International Astronautical Congress in Beijing that it plans to have a space station in orbit within the next decade, saying it will be used to study space medicine and study the effects on humans of spending long periods away from Earth's gravity. The Nyu Wa space station, named after the Chinese …

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Rover by Christmas?

They'd better get a move on.

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Re: Rover by Christmas?

The moon isn't very far away (compared to everything else in the universe), transit time from Earth to the Moon is less than a week. They could launch on December 10th and still arrive there before the Queens Speech.

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Research? Better get the launch costs down first...

Back in the days of Space Station Alpha, research was touted as the number one benefit. Then it, over time, morphed into ISS and, after construction had begun, all mention was quietly dropped.

The reason? Extremely high cost per seat and a strict lack of seats overall. Right now, it's all NASA can do to keep ISS crew levels up, there're just no seats and certainly no budget to get researchers up there.

China wants a multi-module space station in orbit? Great, good for them!

It's going to be a research centre? Not until the PRC can get seat prices way, way down & seat availability way, way up...

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>> It's going to be a research centre? Not until the PRC can get seat prices way, way down & seat availability way, way up...

This isn't the 60's - aside an abundance of existing research and experimental results and the average first world citizen carrying a full scale NASA supercomputer in his/her pocket, there are now even commercial operators in this market; http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/

Just take a look at the cost of computing over time; http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2010/04/computers-just-keep-getting-cheaper-and-better-and-we-should-eagerly-await-the-days-ahead/

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Re: Research? Better get the launch costs down first...

Virgin Galactic lol

A fairground ride is not a suitable way to get astronauts and supplies to a space station.

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Re: Research? Better get the launch costs down first...

>>there are now even commercial operators in this market; http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/

I might agree with your general point that research in orbit becomes more and more affordable every decade, but you undermine your own argument when you put forward Virgin's little trips. I mean they're impressive and they technically get to Space, but anyone who knows about this stuff knows it's not at all like docking with the ISS or a shuttle launch.

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Re: Research? Better get the launch costs down first...

There is a slight difference between getting to space and getting to orbit.

The small matter of accelerating 21,000MPH and then slowing again.

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Re: Research? Better get the launch costs down first...

Why do we even need people in orbit?

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"Not for weapons, honestly"

The subhead is a bit incongruous, innit? The Middle Kingdom has long had its human rights issues at home, but since when has it ever showed particular interest in weapons proliferation? The USA and Russia are (by far) the big weapons manufacturers for the world. OTOH, China seems to be more interested in leapfrogging the West on emerging technologies, so space medicine seems perfectly reasonable.

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Re: "Not for weapons, honestly"

The Chinese are HUGE world wide weapons dealers and they are spending crazy stupid money improving their military along with radically changing its strategic and tactical philosophy.

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Re: "Not for weapons, honestly"

I mean besides providing Arms for, North Korea, the Khmer rouge, Cuba and possibly doing nuclear deals with Pakistan when have the Chinese ever exported weapons, also possibly Iran, Zimbabwe and Sudan and maybe a few other states but this is China we are talking about here.

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Re: "Not for weapons, honestly"

Well, there was that time they used an ICBM to shoot a defunct satelitte out of orbit, causing a right old mess in the process.

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Re: "Not for weapons, honestly"

I'm assuming that you've never heard of Norinco then? They're the biggest Small Arms manufacturer in Asia. They're also owned by the Chinese People's Liberation Army. As a general, rule countries with alot of money also tend to be big weapons manufacturers.

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Fourth attempt?

"humanity's fourth attempt to build an orbital facility for humans." - I'm guessing that the first three are Skylab, Mir, and ISS, and for some reason the Salyuts and Tiangong-1 are ignored. On what basis, I do not know.

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Re: Fourth attempt?

Not to mention Almaz - the military version of Salyut (launched under the names of Salyut-2, 3 and 5 for secrecy)

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Obligatory Dr Evil reference

... it WILL have a circumfluous shark ring, equipped with MEELION watt laser pointers bought off ebay really cheap?

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Re: Obligatory Dr Evil reference

Upvote for the use of 'circumfluous'. Will be using that.

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named after a goddess?

"The Nyu Wa space station, named after the Chinese goddess credited with creating humanity"

Am I the only one who finds it slightly ironic that the Chinese space section named their 'space station' after a goddess given the inherently god-free nature of communism? Seems an about-turn...

I'll admit to knowing nothing about Chinese Goddesses though.

Big brother because, well, it is China

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Re: named after a goddess?

"I'll admit to knowing nothing about Chinese Goddesses though."

Ziyi Zhang ?

Definitely has a heavenly body...

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Re: named after a goddess?

Not as ironic as the head of a hippie-Jesus church asking him to bless a nuke sub and all who sail in her!

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