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Apple has unleashed an update of its all-in-one iMac line, which will now come with boosted Wi-Fi and a beefed-up Haswell processor. The iMac is the technological equivalent of the onesie – all-in-one babygros beloved of Bieber and other nubile young boybadours. It contains all the Apple goodness in one package, meaning fanbois …

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JDX
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Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

I do some iOS development on my 2008 MacBook which is starting to show its age. I have to remind myself more and more frequently that a Mac Mini would be a more than adequate replacement, rather than splashing out on a 27" iMac.

Shame there's no i7 version though. If you're going to splash out, you might as well do it properly!

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There is

There is an i7 version.

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

i7 is a £190 option on top end model. Has been an option for the last couple of updates too.

Amazing how even an iMac is upgradeable if one only looks at the options on the Apple Store instead of basing an opinion on a small fluff piece on tech site.

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

Actually, I just did go to the Apple store.

http://store.apple.com/uk/mac/family/imac

Since there was no i7 model listed I assumed El Reg were correct. Hiding it as a final customisation offer wasn't something I spotted until I double checked.,

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

I have a Mac Mini and I prefer it. Easy to open and swap out the memory, hard drive, fan, or power supply if necessary. (No need to unglue a screen.) It can be positioned on or under a desk so that the (very quiet) sound of the fan and hard drive don't bother you. Of course, if your monitor breaks, no problem. And it's pretty portable, although I've never had to port mine.

Advantages for iMac: less desk/cable clutter. Webcam. Speakers are better than what you'd get with almost any 3rd party monitor. The monitors are excellent (bonded glass, color calibrated, etc.). Option to get non-integrated graphics if that's your thing.

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

Yes, I like the Mac mini, too. I don't want to have to buy a new screen every time I buy a new desktop.

I'd also like one with a core i7 and a powerful GPU, even if it meant the machine was a bit bigger. Apple doesn't do that though.

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

I'll sell you my mid-2010 i7 for cheap...

>Shame there's no i7 version though. If you're going to splash out, you might as well do it properly!

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Re: Did you really need to explain what an iMac is on a tech site?

The i7 options are plainly listed on the "Tech Specs" tab.

http://www.apple.com/imac/specs/

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Pretty sure there's a battery.

Or do you have to reset the clock at each startup? That would be a lot like Apple to try something like this, come to think of it. Right mouse button? Gone. Floppies? Get your coat. Cut'n'paste? Exit. User-replaceable battery? Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Flash? Security has your stuff in a box. MoBo battery? Who even needs that, amirite?

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Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

Sure, they aren't cheap, but compare them with a similar spec else where and they're not "unreasonable".

For example, some four years back I needed a new laptop. I've always used Dell in the past and go for top-of-the-range as that's what I need. This time round a looked at Apple as well and the Macbook Pro came in about £300 cheaper than the closest match I could get from Dell (which had a lower spec, was heavier and had a worse battery life).

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

I think they are still very expensive on pure spec. £1750 for a PC with 8Gb of RAM and an i5 seems a lot... this is not a top spec for a desktop PC.

I actually believe design is worth something, and that screen is very pretty too, but I don't think arguing "it's a reasonable price for the spec" is tenable.

Just for laughs I spent 30s on Dell and got a 12Gb i7 & system for £1050.

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

I just spent 30s on Dell's site too and could only get a machine that ran something called Windows

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

Yeah, I spent 15s on Dell, found their XPS 27 which is the logical equivalent, clicked on Select... and apparently "this machine is no longer available online, we just left it on the website for fun". So I guess it's much less likely to trouble my wallet...

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

I have a PC with core i7, 16GB RAM, 2x2TB hard drives and NVIDIA Titan GPU.

Cost me well under AU$3,000. That's less than £1700.

Sometimes it's worth spending a little extra for a great deal more performance.

It won't run OSX, but it dual boots Windows and Linux.

I'll let you decide whether that's a failing or a feature.

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC730ZM/A/2tb-sata-hard-disk-drive-kit-for-mac-pro?fnode=5f

2TB HDD £209 +VAT. Are you saying that's not having a laugh? They don't even say what make/model it is.

I just bought a 3TB Barracuda from Scan for £92 Inc. Vat.

Go figure.

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

but compare them with a similar spec else where and they're not "unreasonable".

Well, "ish" - but the savings are IMHO coming from elsewhere: even I discount the massive time saving because some people still pay attention to usability in the OSX camp, the most immediate cost saving that springs to mind is the price of commercial software on the platform. If your work allows the ignoring of Microsoft and Adobe you can do a lot with quite a low budget, and the model is such that most code also comes licensed as usable on multiple systems.

That's where for me personally the main direct financial saving came from.

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

> I have a PC with core i7, 16GB RAM, 2x2TB hard drives and NVIDIA Titan GPU.

> Cost me well under AU$3,000. That's less than £1700.

> It won't run OSX, but .....

And there's the rub.

If you want to run Xcode, Logic or Final Cut (I'm a regular user of all three) you're either lumbered with buying from Apple or you go down the Hackintosh route.

I've been down the Hackintosh route before. Not much fun when update time comes along; thar be monsters, hours lost and tears of frustration.

In my case it's worth the extra cash to avoid the extra hassle.

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Re: Can we PLEASE get to grips with this "Apple are expensive" line?

Yes, well, good luck if you ever realise you need more RAM or you need to replace a failed hard drive.

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Next gen WiFi???

Christ, they barely managed to get last gen WiFi working properly as I discovered recently whilst trying to connect an ipad to a WPA2/PSK AES network....

crApple.....Fkin hopeless when Jobs was alive, more so now he's dead...

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Do people (over the age of 12) actually say things like crApple?

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Yes.

Do people still think hiding behind anon makes them look superior?

Fanbois flame on!

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

I prefer the name "MacinToy"

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Not sure hiding behind the name cornz1 is any different?

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

"Not sure hiding behind the name cornz1 is any different?"

- Says Richard 22.

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Andy Prough... that could be anyone.

John Downs, age 24 3/4, 56 Poplar Drive, Guildford. (left off postcode to protect my privacy)

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Well, apart from the blindingly obvious advantage of clicking on my name, reading some of my posts and consequently seeing that I am a known crApple hater, don't hide behind anon when I post something possibly inflammatory to the jobsian brigade and really don't give a flying fuck about what people think of me, then no. I see no advantage either...

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Was that the result of "pin the tail on a random entry in a phone book".

Cornelius Zacharat.

67b linford street, doncaster, South Yorks.

DN11 3RT

Good game this. Should do it blindfolded...

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

Do people (over the age of 12) actually say things like crApple?

YES. Now go away or I will taunt you a second time!!!

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

I would've said you weren't a day over 12.

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"Do people still think hiding behind anon makes them look superior?"

Don't worry, the good folks at NSA know.

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Re: Next gen WiFi???

I live on a houseboat, and drive a Jeep. MacGyver is my last name, my first name is Angus.

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While I accept that they're not everyone's cup of tea, I've been and am very happy with the two iMacs that I've owned over the last five and a half years. My mid 2010 27" iMac is still a fast and capable machine and it has a beautiful screen. I don't see myself replacing it for a little while.

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all-in-one iMac

Except it is not an all-in-one. All-in-one used to mean including a DVD/CD ROM drive.

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CD/DVD - ha ha ha. These days and the future is streaming / digital download. If you 'need' a CD/DVD you can share it from another Mac or spend about £30-50 on a USB one.

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and how often do you need to use a dvd/cd rom drive? I've not had to use one for years at work or at home. Most consumers who buy cheap (the ones found in Asda, tesco etc) machines only use them for backing up the os or installing the odd driver that's out of date anyway.

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What is this "DVD/CD" of which you speak? Is that, like, vinyl or something?

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"All-in-one used to mean including a DVD/CD ROM drive."

Don't forget floppy discs or maybe cassette players.

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@What is this "DVD/CD" of which you speak? Is that, like, vinyl or something?

Think of it as a big, silvery MP3 player.

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Get with the 21st century, grandad. Optical media has been replaced by BitTorrent.

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I bet it doesn't include a modem either.

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These days and the future is streaming / digital download.

As evidenced by the "maybe not always connected" XboxOne brouhaha.

Still, I might agree that it is USB stick.

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B-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l

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20+ Inches of case...

Yet no room for a CD drive....

Some 'design' right there...

Smh

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Re: 20+ Inches of case...

The Macbook Pro has no CD/DVD and better for it as get more battery life. I'm guessing few people still use CD/DVD drives these days and it's one of the more likely things to go wrong. For the few times I may need one I'm happy to use a USB one.

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Re: 20+ Inches of case...

You're wrong: there's room for a CD drive. Space was not the deciding factor.

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Re: 20+ Inches of case...

Have you checked out the superslim iMacs? They're magnificently thin, I'm not sure an optical drive would fit in there.

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Re: 20+ Inches of case...

That could be a good point. I have replaced quite a few optical drives so I would not want a computer with the DVD drive glued in. Better to spoil the All-In-One and use a USB drive, could even add a BD drive. Anyone who did not have a use for one would not have to worry about it.

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Re: 20+ Inches of case...

Yes it's design over function, apple internal drives break a lot, makes total sense to dispense with them, etc etc..

I like the ability to rip audio/video myself and my key point still stands.

It's a big piece of kit that will not be moved regularly and for the money, apple should be making their own hyper reliable internal drives that blend into the design unobtrusively, if you need it or not.

Then again, all you downvoters use itunes don't you?

Who am I trying to kid, carry on.....

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