back to article One of last few iPhone 5Ss STOLEN from within MASSIVE POLICE CORDON at Apple Store

A man's new iPhone 5S was stolen in Apple's flagship London store just seconds after he bought it this morning. Despite more than a dozen cops turning up at the packed Regent Street shop - where the latest mobe went on sale today at 0800 BST - an enterprising pickpocket managed to swipe the gear. The Register understands the …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Pocket picked twice

    First by Apple

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Pocket picked twice

      You'd think there would be a way to lock the serial numbers.

      After all, the phone S/N is on the bill (hence proof of payment), so the buyer should have been able to log the phone as stolen and get Apple to flag that it has tried to authenticate and maybe identify the associated iTunes account. Such a measure will render phone thefts useless, and I know the Apple store has a record that ties the credit card to the specific phone.

      FFS, if the US has such deficient privacy laws, could we at least have some *positive* use of that?

  2. CaptainBlue

    Planning

    I love the way they already had the signs printed and waiting

    1. HollyHopDrive

      Re: Planning

      Which makes me think its deliberate so they can create free headlines about shops selling out.

      When the raspberry pi sold out they massively underestimated and it destroyed websites. You can tell by what happened - its genuine.

      But like you say to pre-print signs smacks of marketing hype and artificial low stock. Apple are one of the richest companies in the world in pretty sure that after 5 years of doing this and probably the some of the best analytics of their customers they know exactly much how many they need for customers (and how many they needed to MAKE SURE they sell out everywhere :-) )

      1. Annihilator
        Boffin

        Re: Planning

        "Which makes me think its deliberate so they can create free headlines about shops selling out."

        1) You'd think they would have done that for the 5C if that were the case ("ooh, look how popular this one is too").

        2) Stock control and supply chain management says that you shouldn't operate to try and fulfil demand on day 1. To do so would be to start stockpiling models for ages, and tying up capital in your warehouses. Say they can sell 100,000 on day 1, and can make 1,000 per day (all made up figures). They would have had to start producing them over 3 months ago and stockpile them all as the levels get gradually larger. Stock in a warehouse is an utter waste of capital. Using those figures along and averaging the value to be around £600, they'd have £60m tied up in a warehouse, doing nothing but waiting for launch day.

        In reality the figures will be much higher.

        1. wikkity

          Re: yyhey'd have £60m tied up in a warehouse, doing nothing but waiting for launch day

          As opposed to billions lying in off shore accounts doing nothing but waiting for a tax amnesty.

          1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
            FAIL

            Re: yyhey'd have £60m tied up in a warehouse, doing nothing but waiting for launch day

            As opposed to billions lying in off shore accounts doing nothing but waiting for a tax amnesty.

            You really need to know the basic fact that that money is not "lying there". It's being used. Maybe to finance your job. It's just that someone has a claim on it.

            And as long as the tax part hasn't been hoovered away, it's probably being used to produce stuff people want as opposed to stuff bureaucrats imagine people want (less the skim-off for bureaucrats' paycheck, of course)

        2. Darryl

          Re: Planning

          I'd imagine they DID do that for the 5C as well, but they grossly overestimated how many would want to buy a cheaper, uglier version of last year's model.

          Now the "Sorry, we're sold out of iPhone 5C models" signs that they had printed up will never see the light of day.

        3. Goldmember

          Re: Planning

          "1) You'd think they would have done that for the 5C if that were the case ("ooh, look how popular this one is too")."

          Not really. I should imagine they have teams of people reading the tech reviews/ previews/ popular blogs and, realizing world + dog (even hardened fanbios) think a poorer quality but only slightly cheaper iShiny is a shit idea, instead focused all their attention on the expensive iShiny.

          "Starving the market" is an old trick, and is one Apple has successfully employed every year since 2008. How many more years they can get away with it remains to be seen, however.

        4. Atonnis

          Re: Planning

          '1) You'd think they would have done that for the 5C if that were the case ("ooh, look how popular this one is too").

          Not really. This gives them absolute 'excuse' on the next wave to declare 'our customers have shown us that they really prefer quality and high value products' and then they'll jack up the price on the next 'premium' phone and accessories by £100.

    2. Anonymous Custard

      Re: Planning

      I love the way they already had the signs printed and waiting

      Indeed, plus the way they say they're sold out "today" when their next shipment will be in October (according to the article anyway).

      1. An0n C0w4rd

        Re: Planning

        <quote>Indeed, plus the way they say they're sold out "today" when their next shipment will be in October (according to the article anyway).</quote>

        No, the article says that orders placed online will be shipped in October. About 2am the online store was saying 7-10 days, and it's now slipped to "October", so there is (at least one) earlier batch that is already fully claimed for online sales, but presumably the physical stores will operate on a first come, first serve basis and they'll get some allocation from the earlier batch(es).

    3. Shagbag

      Re: Planning

      I don't know who's sadder: the people who queued for > 5mins or Apple for having those signs ready-made.

      Either way: SAD BASTARDS.

    4. Andus McCoatover

      Re: Planning

      Me,too. Now,can anyone read the tiny print at bottom left?

      Wouldn't be a datecode, would it?

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Planning

      The false scarcity all helps reinforce the brand value in the eyes of the True Believers.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wanted: Thieves with good eyesight

    " thieves are on the lookout for the distinctive new mobes"

    They'll need good eyesight, as these look like any other smartphone of the day.

    I suppose the most worried will be Lumia owners, whose garish plastic babies were previously theft proof, but may now be swiped in a tragic case of mistaken identity that all concerned will rue.

    1. Ammaross Danan

      Re: Wanted: Thieves with good eyesight

      @Ledswinger: "They'll need good eyesight, as these look like any other smartphone of the day."

      No, they look just like any other iPhone 5 of the day. (Minus the gold one, but toss it in the the usual phone case and you won't know).

    2. Darryl
      Happy

      @Ledswinger - Re: I suppose the most worried will be Lumia owners

      Nah, didn't you read the article? Nobody wants a 5C

    3. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Wanted: Thieves with good eyesight @Ledswinger

      I would of thought MS and Nokia would be worried, I'm sure Apple will have been up to it's usual and will now commence legal proceedings against them for producing phones that could be confused with the 5C...

    4. Michael Dunn
      Thumb Up

      Re: Wanted: Thieves with good eyesight

      Reminds me of our Lada - no one ever twoc(k)ed a Lada!

  4. lansalot

    lovely...

    So our Police are there to protect customer in Apple stores now?

    Sure, it's a crime and all - but drafting in cops to cover a PRODUCT LAUNCH ???

    Surely this doesn't happen....

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: lovely...

      Apple should be charged for the cops time!

      I thought when police are required for crowd control etc at events the event had to pay for the police.. surely this is no different?

    2. Tom Wood

      Re: lovely...

      It's common for police to be drafted in to cover openings of Ikea stores and suchlike, so I expect iPhone launches are no different. The company concerned does normally pay for the privilege, I believe.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Clearly

    we're over austerity then

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Clearly

      I'm pretty confident we never were "all in it together".

      1. Martipar

        Re: Clearly

        just goes to show that nicking the slogan from a bureaucratic dystopian government works. Even though said government had problems with Buttle and Tuttle.

    2. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: Clearly

      we're over austerity then

      Remind me again when austerity occurred except in left-wingers' and NYT columnists' sloganeering?

      1. Maharg

        Re: Clearly

        Remind me again where austerity didn’t occur except in the back pockets of the people who caused it?

      2. gcla72

        Re: Clearly

        Plus one from me. I've not had to cut back on anything. But then I wasn't living on tick in 2008 either. Money comes to money. LOL

  6. Luke McCarthy

    The iPhone 5C would have been a sellout success

    ...if it were £300 cheaper.

    1. Ian McNee
      Megaphone

      Re: The iPhone 5C would have been a sellout success

      Or alternatively in Apple pitched the 5C in such way as to make the fruity fanbois think: "Oh my gawd, I don't wanna be stuck with a 5C, I GOTTA have a 5S to be a successful & stylish thinkfluencing barista!" Not that Apple would really do anything to ramp hysteria among the (not so) poor fashion victim community. No no. Not never. As if!

      </tinfoil-conspiracy-fandroid-wanker>

  7. Adam T

    Pickpockets in London? Who'd have guessed.

    Some people never learn.

    But perhaps if he was one of those who camped out for days, he'll be a bit more aware of his surroundings next time.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Apple "sell out" of their new phone. Wow, that's never happened before.

    If only they send a few more of the thousands of them, sat in warehouses somewhere in China, to the stores, they could avoid inconveniencing their customers, just for the sake of pointless publicity claims of how well they're selling.

  9. Steve Todd

    One wonders if he'd activated "Find my iPhone"

    If so it's going to be an education to the thief.

    1. Gonebirdin

      Re: One wonders if he'd activated "Find my iPhone"

      There is a flaw in the software that enables the miscreant to disable the phone comms by enabling plane mode even if the screen is locked and thus stop the phone from phoning home until he can work out how to break into it properly

      1. Steve Todd

        Re: One wonders if he'd activated "Find my iPhone"

        Which still doesn't let him wipe/reactivate the phone without knowing the iTunes password of the owner.

        1. Trevor Marron

          Re: One wonders if he'd activated "Find my iPhone"

          It was brand new, what is the betting the buyer had not set it up yet?

      2. Andy 115

        Or the tea leaf could…

        …You know, turn the phone off to disable the radios…

        Flaw(ed) logic is flawed ;-)

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Apple is indeed in decline...

    all the way to the bank, apparently.

    1. Michael Dunn

      Re: Apple is indeed in decline...

      Rather like the WWI Officer (disobeying a 'retreat' order) sending the message "Retreating at full speed towards the enemy."

  11. Jediben

    What an idiot

    Desperate to advertise his ridiculously over-priced new purchase, he succeeded in only drawn admiration from a sticky fingered tea-leaf.

    f course, he's set the phone up with his finger print reader, so it's completely locked down, right?....

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Police are looking for the smug git

    who stole the iPhone.

    They need look no further than the nearest Samsung office. After all, they will be copying it as soon as possible won't they?

    1. thesykes

      Re: Police are looking for the smug git

      true... Samsung are due to bring a new budget phone soon and need something to bas it on...

    2. djack

      Re: Police are looking for the smug git

      True, the Android crowd have already started slavishly copying it's new features.

      ... two years ago : http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php

    3. Big_Ted

      Re: Police are looking for the smug git

      OH ha ha

      that is such a new and revolutionary side splitter

      new keyboard needed ............................................ I don't think.

      now go away and find a brain with a humour section still intact.

      1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Police are looking for the smug git

        Lighten up big Ted. It is Friday afternoon. The post was an obvious joke. Unless there are other reasons for your rant?

        Beer O'Clock time naturally.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Police are looking for the smug git

      Funny, I saw IOS7 and immediately thought. well Samsung has to sue right? it blatantly copies features I've used for years...

  13. hammarbtyp
    Coat

    Credit, where credits due

    Well that's one way to overcome the new fingerprint security.

    Icon for obvious reasons

  14. Andy 97

    Snooty fanboi activity fuels Apple PR machine shocker.

    "uuuuhh, like... coloured, plastic iPhones..duh"

    I worry for the future of humanity sometimes.

  15. MarketingTechnoDude

    Gold, Silver, Bronze or ... Silver versus low rent?

    Interesting ...

    In classical product marketing, you create a high end, high priced product (pardon the pun .. Gold Model) and also offer a more affordable version (Silver Model) of the same product which typically offers 70-90% of the Gold Model. Normally you expect the Gold Model sets the aspirational bar, with the expectation that the Silver Model will actually account for 70-80% of sales as it seems to offer really good value for the money whilst the Gold Model sells in much lower volumes. In car sales this has worked well for many years. In old Ford money ... L, XL, GXL... Most of the volume was XL..

    Apple seem to have changed this, in that the 5S may sell more than the 5C. So why might this be?

    Either ...

    1) They have changed the product perception model for Apple products

    or

    2) There is no need for a Gold Model as the Gold model is perceived to be the Apple Brand in general ... which means that ... The 5S is the Silver Model and the 5C is perceived as the Bronze Model (low rent version). Nobody wants a Bronze Model... especially when the product is a personal fashion status symbol as opposed to just being a utilitarian piece of equipment.

    If 2 is true, then the 5C is therefore expected to sell in low numbers because it is deliberately low rented to persuade the purchaser to buy the 5S (spend more money) so as not to appear as a cheapskate. The Gold Model is perceived to be the Apple Brand and it's future expected product ... the iPhone 6 and that is currently unattainable by anyone, because it is not available/developed/marketed yet.

    Having said the above, I think this may NOT have been what they intended. The 5C was probably just a reaction to loosing market percentage points, and pressure from the city and analysts to make sure they compete in the this sector rather than holding onto their principles (expecting to command a 20% type market share with much higher ARPU than the competition in the 80% of the market).

    Perception is the reality ...

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