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Google has reduced the price of its Quickoffice tool to nothing on Android and iOS, a move Microsoft won't appreciate. Google scooped up Quickoffice about a year back and made it a part of Google Drive. Doing so meant Drive users could edit Microsoft Office documents. The Chocolate Factory has now made Quickoffice available at …

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Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

Ah. Never mind, then.

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Re: Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

You can open and save locally of course. However logging on to Google drive from within quick office before Sept 29th will gift you another 10gb of free space.

What's not to love about that? Free office suite, free cloud storage space.

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Re: Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

It's by 26th September, not 29th, and the 10gb are good for only two years but still I'll grab that offer: http://googledrive.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/freeing-quickoffice-for-everyone.html

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Re: Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

What's not to love?

Data slurped by Google AND the NSA?

That reason enough?

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Re: Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

It's comfortable knowing your data is not only backed up, but backed up offsie too!

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Re: Quickoffice files save into Google Drive

...free access to your documents for Google. What's not to like?

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Heating up

The cold war between Google and Microsoft appears to be heating up. This can only be good for consumers, provided they both keep their lawyers out of it.

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Re: Heating up

Actually, if they lawyers did get involved, it could very well backfire.

Android has the applications, Windows RT does not, and Office isn't going to cut it alone.

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Agreed. For too long, consumers have suffered with the 'Microsoft Tax' in all its forms. Finally, the monopoly is being broken. As long as neither MSFT nor Google (or anyone else for that matter) have a monopoly position, consumers will benefit.

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Re: Heating up

I'm in two minds about the cloud wars that have started.

They're both wanting to collect and hold a huge quantity of personal data about people.

Whilst I rarely touch MS with anything less than a cattle prod I'm inclined to think their offering might be better simply for the reason that I don't think they're competent enough to do anything with the data.

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" I don't think they're competent enough to do anything with the data".. like backing it up you mean. Anyone who had the danger os on their phones will know just how good Microsoft are when it comes to backing up and recovering data.

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" I don't think they're competent enough to do anything with the data"

They are competent enough to spill it out / lose it, given that a humble council can easily do that. Surely that can't bid below that level of "competency"?!

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Re: Heating up

Ha - and if you think that after the dust settles, Google "wins" the future and Microsoft is consigned to the history books that we will all be better off, you're utterly deluded.

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Re: Heating up

I would rather pay more than have The Borg read all my documents and emails and send me targeted SPAM and adverts for the rest of my life. Google is still a tax - just on your time and privacy...

Besides, this is still an way inferior product to the real Microsoft Office.

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Re: Heating up

"Anyone who had the danger os on their phones will know just how good Microsoft are when it comes to backing up and recovering data."

You mean Windows Phone? Not sure why that's the danger OS - it's far more secure than the other current options, and Microsoft don't SPAM you for life with the contents of your data, and there is no Malware like on Android - and as far as we know the NSA can't remotely control your camera / microphone like they can on Android...

You are correct about the backups though - If you logon to a new Windows Phone it restores pretty much everything including all of your applications from the last automatic cloud backup....It's really fast and completely seamless.

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Google is still a tax - just on your time and privacy...

Yup, that is a payment in a different currency. It may be worth noting in that context that you pay MS once for the product, whereas Google you'll pay the rest of your life - your personal data isn't returned when you stop using their service, and you have agreed to a license to your IP into perpetuity (read the ToS - you'll find it soon enough).

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Didn't Microsoft kill off a better browser by giving away an inferior one?

I believe it did.

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Re: Didn't Microsoft kill off a better browser by giving away an inferior one?

Almost - they killed its financial viability and locked lots of corporations in to a now-regretted dependency on IE5/IE6 which even MS can't/won't port, even as 2nd class application, to later versions of Windows.

But Netscape's legacy is still around as Firefox, and doing not too badly.

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Re: Didn't Microsoft kill off a better browser by giving away an inferior one?

All I can remember about IE 5/6 was their shitty and inconsistent support for HTML and CSS and a complete determination to keep them outside the standards the rest of the world was working to. I think the biggest legacy of those versions of IE is the fixed width WEB site...

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Re: Didn't Microsoft kill off a better browser by giving away an inferior one?

I'm sorry Steve. Could you put carriage returns before char 80

on all your lines please. Only you see I'm reading this on a portrait

screen, and the fixed width of the bloody website means I keep

having to scroll left and right to see.

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Re: Didn't Microsoft kill off a better browser by giving away an inferior one?

All I can remember about IE 5/6 was their shitty and inconsistent support for HTML and CSS and a complete determination to keep them outside the standards the rest of the world was working to

Funny that. I've seen that happen with the MS Office formats too, so even that wasn't *cough* innovation *cough*

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OFFICIAL: NO upgrade needed to XP if you use Firefox... :)

support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/955647

just make sure you have xp sp3.. full how to here.. :)

support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-no-longer-works-some-versions-windows-xp

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At this rate...

Office is going to go the same way as VisiCalc and WordPerfect.

They dragged their feet about windowizing their interface and lost market share to office.

As less PCs are being sold and surface is a damp squib Office is now losing market share to both QuickOffice and iWorks, to the point where outside the desktop they'll be irrelevant :o

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Re: Byz Re: At this rate...

Really? So you're too young to remember the MS-haters spouting exactly the same bumph about how StarOffice was just CERTAIN to kill MS Office when it was given away as Open Office? QuickOffice will be nothing more than a reader for documents produced in MS Office, as phones (and even most tablets) are good for consumption but crap for production of documents. Production will still largely be done on desktops and proper laptops, and MS Office (or Office365) will still be the tool of choice.

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Re: Byz At this rate...

Not even with Google Docs, which can ALSO access Google Drive, meaning you can edit on the desktop and have access on the phone PDQ?

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Re: Byz At this rate...

OpenOffice has certainly lead to much reduced prices (like the £79 for 3 home licenses) since they had to fight for the home user. I don't think many MS haters claimed OO would obliterate Office. Hoped, yes.

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Re: Charles 9 Re: Byz At this rate...

"Not even with Google Docs, which can ALSO access Google Drive...." Apart from the fact Office365 already has this with the real productivity suite, not the shallow clone, have you read the terms on the Google Drive license? Google gets to use your docs as they like, in perpetuity, even after you delete them, which implies they keep copies of all that stuff you may have decided was too embarrassing/incriminating to keep.

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Re: At this rate...

"Office is now losing market share to both QuickOffice and iWorks"

Clearly you would like to think so, but that simply isn't the case. Office is still growing revenue - especially via Office 365 which is growing rapidly:

http://betanews.com/2013/06/03/shock-survey-37-of-orgs-plan-to-adopt-office-365-within-24-months/

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Re: Charles 9 Byz At this rate...

"Google gets to use your docs as they like, in perpetuity, even after you delete them, which implies they keep copies of all that stuff"

I suspect that's just butt-covering in the event that a Google employee cocks up and lets people's files out into the wild somehow. Remember, Google has a lot of lawyers, and T&C documents get written by those lawyers. They'd be thinking of the worst cases and covering their arses. Particularly after that WiFi thing people got all upset about (over what was essentially nothing).

I'm not saying Google's all rainbows and candy, but I seriously doubt they want to keep the worlds files on, er, file just so they can sneak a look next Tuesday when the programmers are bored.

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There have been similar "office" apps for Android for a few years now, so this is nothing new!

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New?

Depends, many older options did not work very well, maybe Quickoffice will work to a "good enough" standard?

Still, has MS not been in "protect Windows cash-cow at all costs" mode the last few years, it could have make Office properly available on IOS (at least) and Android and seen much more sales. Oh, and saved 1B$ in write-down on the unloved WinRT fondlslabs...

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Most office apps on Android are complete arse, barely more sophisticated than Wordpad or at a pinch, MS Works. I've got Polaris baked into my Asus Transformer and the bloody thing doesn't even recognise half the keyboard navigation keystrokes forcing me to poke at the screen to move the cursor around any appreciable distance.

I think if I were expecting to do any serious word processing or spreadsheets on the go I'd just buy a Windows tablet.

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Try Kingsoft Office. It is pretty good.

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@Office on Android recommendation

I've found Documents To Go to be pretty good. I first tried it out because at the time there was no PDF viewer worth a damn, but since then I've found it's pretty good for Officey stuff too. I've not done anything hugely complicated with it, but thus far it hasn't had any problems with the random selection of documents I've put through it.

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Works for me, and it's free.

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SoftMaker Office is said to have the best MS-office compatibility and works well for me on Linux and Android. Feel sorry for them that Google bought QuickOffice and not them.

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"I think if I were expecting to do any serious word processing or spreadsheets on the go I'd just buy a Windows tablet."

if you wait long enough you'll be able to get one free with a burger :)

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"if you wait long enough you'll be able to get one free with a burger :)"

I'm not talking of Windows RT, I'm talking of Windows. There are already Windows tablets running x86 processors with similar battery life as ARM chips. If I was looking for something for word processing I would pick one of those over an Android tablet any day of the week.

It's not just the quality of of the office suites on android which is an issue but lack of a proper printing infrastructure. And keyboard / mouse support is generally terrible. All things that seriously impact on the ability to produce rather than consume information.

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Re: @Office on Android recommendation

+1 for Documents To Go - I've used it since first switching from the older Windows Mobile platforms when the HTC Desire first came out, and got it direct for about £6 back then. Polaris looks all fancy, and shows a few things that DTG doesn't, like cell outlines on spreadsheets (but at least those that are there are maintained when saving). However, DTG is easily good enough to use in place of the Mobile Office apps on the old HTC Kaiser et al that T-Mobile use to rebadge as their Vario range.

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Price

The price may well be zero but what is the cost?

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The cost is an unhappy user because he/she didn't have the satisfaction of paying for something, i.e shopaholic.

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Now waitaminnit...

There's been a Quickoffice app in Android since Honeycomb, but I've never been able to make it do anything. What's up with that?

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No reason for Office?

"Google's just taken away any reason for Steve Ballmer to consider productivity apps on non-Microsof mobile devices before his departure."

I don't agree. People will pay money for MS Office on Android and iDevices even if the competition is free, for the same reasons that they pay for MS Office on Windows and OSX even though Libre Office is free.

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Re: No reason for Office?

People will pay money for MS Office on Android and iDevices even if the competition is free, for the same reasons that they pay for MS Office on Windows and OSX even though Libre Office is free

And, i think, if they've gone for the subscription model of Office 365 then (at least the phone version) is free already.

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Probably won't be long before Microsoft pull a YouTube/SkyDrive and get Google to pull or rename it as the name infringes trademark, implies its official, causes confusion blah, blah, blah in an effort to dent consumer/corporate confidence in the product.

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Except they can't because they used the VERY generic term "Office". They can trademark the complete phrase "Microsoft Office", but not the word "Office" because it's too broad. Therefore, QuickOffice (which is different enough in name and logo to MS Office) would get a pass. Also, Microsoft would have to answer why they didn't make such an assertion with StarOffice/OpenOffice/LibreOffice previously (there is IIRC a statute of limitations for filing a trademark infringement claim).

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My first "office" suite was bundled with my PC and was called Borland Office. It was Wordperfect, Quattro Pro and Paradox for Windows. Productivity bundles have been calling themselves Office for 20 years now.

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Didn't stop SkyDrive having to be renamed because the UK courts upheld BSkyB's objection to it's use of Sky in the name. Also Quickoffice's main purpose is to provide MS Office functionality, the others were competitors to MS Office.

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I think that's because of sky broadband, sky tv , sky sports etc.

If ms had called it "drive sky" ms would have been allowed it. Sky is their brand (company name) and all their products are called sky xyz. Microsoft is er...called Microsoft not office) so, no leg to stand on.

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