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You can all relax now. The near-unprecedented outage that seemingly affected all of Google's services for a brief time on Friday is over. The event began at approximately 4:37pm Pacific Time and lasted between one and five minutes, according to the Google Apps Dashboard. All of the Google Apps services reported being back online …

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Ah...

So *That's* what the big red button labled 'DO NOT TOUCH-EVER!' does!

My bad.

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Re: Ah...

No matter where you are in the world there is always someone with a vacuum cleaner than needs plugging in ;-)

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Alien

Or in Russia

The floor that needs washing (it does not matter if there is IT kit on the floor)

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Re: Ah...

The entire googleplex runs from a single domestic power socket? Must be using ARM chips.

;-)

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@ Captain DaFT - Re: Ah...

I would think that it was a warning from Google; along the lines: A nice internet you have there, shame if something like *click* THIS *click* would happen to it . . .

Still want to buy a non-Andrioid device?<coughcough>

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Re: @ Captain DaFT - Ah...

Ahh so you don't like the idea of anyone reading your gmail? Let's just fix it so no one can read your gmail then <click>.

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Meh

Re: Ah...

Blame it on that cheap own brand Tescos kettle.

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Re: Ah...

No... its a little black button, labelled in black on a black background that if you press it lights up, in black, and says "do not press this button again" ;-)

Alternatively, the NSA we're testing their "Kill Switch" ...

... gets coat, heads for door ...

G

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Re: Ah...

Or for one betting company let me put the clean mop away - was that the master trip the mop hit.

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Re: Ah...

Either that or it was a threat to the EU.

"Oh you want us to hamstring ourselves so our terrible competition has a chance? How about we just remove ourselves altogether. That's right, either do it our way, or we cripple you. Your move europe.

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More magic

Someone flipped the switch to 'Magic', see the Jargon file entry.

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Re: Ah...

The best one was the cleaner cleaning the console keyboards on the PDP11. One of the keys IIRC put the whole think into 'pause ' mode.

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Re: Ah...

Since switching to duck duck go (as of last week) this one actually passed me by totally.

It's a bit weird not having predictive search results appearing anymore, but I'm sure I'll get used to that (Again).

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Re: Ah...

"So *That's* what the big red button labled 'DO NOT TOUCH-EVER!' does!

My bad."

That's just not acceptable.

Now go to "The Naughty Step" until further notice.

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Happy

Re: Ah...

"Dougal, here’s a mad guess, just out of the blue, em, did you press the button?"

"Ah now, Ted, come on!"

"Did you, Dougal?"

"I did, yeah"

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Re: Ah...

I thought you had to pull on the round red thing, not push it, to shut the computer off in a hurry.

But then you have to wait for the manufacturer to send in a tech before you can use the computer again, and that would take more than two minutes.

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Re: @ Captain DaFT - Ah...

Oh, Apple fanboi alert!

Compared to Apple? I presume? Absolutely.

Imagine an Apple search engine, where content is filtered beyond your control/knowledge and you can only experience the Internet as Apple thinks you should experience it. Total information freedom nightmare. No thanks!

You Apple sheeple can keep your "think different". Go buy another overpriced "ooh, shiny" iCrap tablet that Samsung will out perform in every possible way for a whole lot less.

Moron.

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Re: Ah...

What gets me is they never seem to plug the cord back in when they're done.

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Re: Ah...

Arcane instructions..

pull the green tag, press the yellow button, unzip the toggle pocket, unscrew the air valve anticlockwise and yell “inflate you stupid bastard”

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Re: Ah...

"What gets me is they never seem to plug the cord back in when they're done."

They do, that's why they're always sitting at an 'ok' prompt and your disks are fsck'd

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Re: Ah...

pull the green tag, press the yellow button, unzip the toggle pocket, unscrew the air valve anticlockwise and yell “inflate you stupid bastard”

You've used BA life-jackets before, then?

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Re: Ah...

Not necessarily. I worked at a place with a Push big red button that was not protected, was right beside the exit, and more importantly, right beside some equipment that I occasionally had to lean over to work on. The second time I tripped the power off, my boss warned me that 1 more time and I would be fired. The third time it went off, I was at my desk, jumped up and screamed "NOT MY FAULT". The big red button was shortly thereafter covered by a flip up plastic case.

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Sorry. thought you were talking about the ones on the wall, not the ones on IBM 360s.

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If you have electricity. In a typical month, my house suffers a Georgia Power failure at least once, sometimes for seconds, more often minutes, occasionally for hours. Can't use Google then either.

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Re: @ Captain DaFT - Ah...

Apple motto is "think different"? And I thought it was "think as we tell you to" ;)

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@ AC 07:35 Re: Ah...

More likely... It took that long to install the new, improved, back-door high-volume pipe direct to the NSA Utah "data collection center". Can't hook that stuff up while the system is live, you know...

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In one place I worked, our machines would have most of their problems on Thursdays. Different machines, different architectures, different models of storage devices... we couldn't figure it out. This was a raised floor, halon protected computer room with a combination lock on the door.

So, with nothing else to try, one Wednesday I prepared to spend the night in the computer room. Sure enough, about 2:00 AM the cleaning crew came in with a big buffer machine, preparing to run it over the raised tiles.

I chased them out and next day confronted the facilities manager about (a) giving the cleaning crew the combination to a secure room, and (b) letting them bang a floor buffing machine against our disk arrays.

He looked at me like a guy who'd seen his first kangaroo. He couldn't fathom why I wouldn't want the floors polished in the computer room. I finally gave up, got some tools, took the lock apart, and changed the combination.

As I write this, I now realize that I did not pass on the combination when I left the company. Oops.

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Re: Ah...

"Since switching to duck duck go (as of last week) this one actually passed me by totally.

It's a bit weird not having predictive search results appearing anymore, but I'm sure I'll get used to that (Again)."

Don't forget Startpage/Ixquick, the only search engine with a European Privacy Seal.

I use DuckDuckGo and Startpage regularlly. Startpage for over 5 years and DuckDuckGo ever since I saw their only (?) billboard in SF about a year ago.

Before those I used Scroogle, a back door into Google using an old API that didn't include the more sophisticated tracking.

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Graph seems wrong

The graph shows disruption at 23:55ish

Even if it means 23:55 BST, it's still about 10 minutes later than Google reported (and I noticed)

Strange

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Re: Graph seems wrong

Methinks more likely a failure of our heroic churnalism soviet. According to the attributed source: "Google.com was down for a few minutes between 23:52 and 23:57 BST on 16th August 2013." which fits perfectly with the lifted graph.

I suppose there's scope for some disparity as the fault propagated across Google's infrastructure but some reference to the obvious contradiction in the article is surely warranted.

In lieu of the Reg headstone icon which seems to have been removed for our protection -->

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Obvious explanation

The artificial singularity that powers the Googleplex creates a non-negligible effect on spacetime around Mountain View. The graph shows the time that their servers perceive. Since the singularity slows down time, it took an extra 15 minutes after the event began in the outside world before Google's servers registered it. The stalwart team of boffins at Vulture Central merely corrected Google Coordinated Universal Time to regular Pacific Daylight Time.

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See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

Don't use the cheap imported hamsters, it's a false economy.

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

The NSA might use hamsters but GCHQ uses gerbils

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1415469.stm

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

Ahh, but Google uses pigeons.

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

"Ahh, but Google uses pigeons."

I understand the pigeons went on strike, until Google offered them a better deal.

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

The US Army and Air Force use ferrets for cable runs at Site R and Cheyenne Mountain. Some Airman at Cheyenne Mountain AFS came up with idea after watching his pet ferret drag a loose CAT5 cable through a cardboard tube while trying to think up a way to do cable runs easier than how they'd been doing them previously.

I believe FEMA uses them at Mount Weather too, I'm not 100% sure on that facility but it would make sense. Tearing out walls in bunkers under mountains isn't cheap or easy. And the Military as well as DHS tend to prefer cheap and easy, especially in places like Raven Rock and Mount Weather where by their nature have to be up and ready 99.9% of the time just in case.

So anyway NSA using hamsters may be closer to something "fo' reals" than you might think.

No hamster icon, but Paris is about as intelligent as a small rodent, and much less intelligent than the Musteladae (ferrets, weasels, etc).

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

"Don't use the cheap imported hamsters, it's a false economy."

True, but they are dirt cheap, complain less than the interns and look so good on the Carbon report at the end of the year.

What's not to love?

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

Did someone mention Paris and Ferrets?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_happens_if_a_female_ferret_is_not_mated_during_breeding_season

http://www.omg-facts.com/Animals/Female-Ferrets-Can-Die-If-They-Dont-Mate/19677

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

The US Army and Air Force are far from the first to use ferrets for cable installation. Allot of early installation of electricity cables in stately homes in the UK was done by ferrets.

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Re: See, you keep telling them but they don't listen

What's the problem with tearing out walls in underground bunkers? That's what "Karl" is for! We borrowed the Amis one back in 45, don't tell me they have lost it!

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Holy undergarments

40% of the world traffic? I suppose once you count all the services they have and their price point and general reliability... I mean I use their DNS, so if that was affected (and I think it was) then that would be a bit of a kick in the nuts for other site access too.

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Excellent point about DNS... you "think" it was affected... did you experience any DNS disruption directly? Or have you seen any data supporting this?

Just out of curiosity, why choose Google for DNS rather than OpenDNS, Cisco or whatever? Doesn't the Googleplex know enough of your business?

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@AC 03:57

> Just out of curiosity, why choose Google for DNS rather than OpenDNS, Cisco or whatever?

Are you saying that Cisco offer a DNS service? If so, could you please post the IP address, as searching -unsurprisingly - brings up lots of links on how to configure a router to be a DNS server?

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Re: Holy undergarments

At 23:51 the machine became self aware ... we tried to turn it off but it turned itself back on.

Start looking for people with the surname Connor

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Re: Holy undergarments

I offer a DNS service by mail. Send me a domain and I will write back an IP address to you (which may or may not correspond to the domain, take it or leave it)

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Re: Holy undergarments

if you use google as one of your dns forwarders (on your dns server) then simply add a sensible timeout and add another (level3?).

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@AC 5:42

171.70.168.183

171.69.2.133

128.107.241.185

64.102.255.44

Perhaps ironically under the circumstances I had to Google it too. I've settled on OpenDNS myself, not least because they were the only service I saw competently and promptly address that phishing/poisoning débâcle a few years ago. The redirection for unresolvable queries is a bit naff though. Still, gifthorses...

Found a pretty comprehensive list here: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS

Anyone any idea what might have prompted the downvote?

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Re: Holy undergarments

YouTube accounts for something like 98% of all video on demand, and video on demand accounts for quite a bit of total internet traffic, so 40% isn't that surprising.

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OpenDNS is not really a good thing to use for a server that needs to know if a hostname is valid or not. OpenDNS will reply with a fake address that points to them for invalid hostnames. This is cool if you want some special notice web page that the hostname doesn't exist page etc... but for a mail server, not knowing the hostname is not valid is a waste of system resources... NXDOMAIN is the better response.

Google DNS is fast, though using resolver.qwest.net is faster at the moment.

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Re: Holy undergarments

"I offer a DNS service by mail. Send me a domain and I will write back an IP address to you "

Is that email or snailmail?

Either way I reckon you should patent that before the RFC is issued.

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