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Conservative radio jock Rush Limbaugh has discovered the existence of bloggers and determined they hate Apple and, thusly, Republicans. Limbaugh reckoned love for Android, Google and Samsung is the only thing that can explain why bloggers have been laying into the iPhone and iPad maker lately. Nine out of 10 tech bloggers are …

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Headmaster

Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

............if you prefer kit from Google/Samsung you are by his definition left-wing and if you prefer kit from Apple/Foxcon you are right-wing? The word "barking" does not even begin to cover it.

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

Al Franken was right.

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Disproportionate

Here on El Reg the theory appears to be correct, there always appears to be a disproportionate number of downvotes when anyone on here praises an Apple product.

The comments also tend to be more extreme in their nature. So there could also be a correlation between this and the Political Left here in the UK, as they too tend to shout the loudest, have a nastiness and are less forgiving. The Left wing bias is also prevalent and entrenched in the media (except of course the Daily Mail) including the impartial BBC.

Of course there is other evidence as well. Comments on the news articles tend to dip off after 1pm on Friday which is the end of the working week for the public sector which is generally considered left wing.

In conclusion, he may have a point, or it's just that a disproportionate number of immature trolling di**heads populate this site. In which case my theory falls to pieces.

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Re: Disproportionate

1pm on a Friday is just about the perfect time to go to the pub... Your, otherwise thoroughly water-tight, theory begins to unravel as soon as you factor that in.

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

so was bill hicks (google it) *Warning* strongly NSFW

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Re: Disproportionate

But have you tried to get in contact with anyone in the public services after 1pm on a Friday. To prove the point just send an email, you will get an automated reply.. 'Such and such is now out of the office until Mon/Tues next week'.

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Re: Disproportionate

I think the point is begining to be made.

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Troll bait much ?

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Re: Disproportionate

You really are an idiot arn't you.

Have you dealt with most public sector departments, they are normally so right wing hitler would feel out of place.

Full of viscious petty minded, jobsworth pain in the arses. And that was after I left for anotehr job.

Seriously though, you may consider public sector left wing purely due to the strength of union representation as its harder for the bosses to fuck over their staff in the same way teh private sector does.

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Re: Disproportionate

there always appears to be a disproportionate number of downvotes when anyone on here praises an Apple product.

That's because Apple products are the BMWs of the computer world. They may have some nice engineering in them, but far too much of the price is for the name, and far too many of the users are total plonkers who can't see past the badge.

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1pm on Friday

Actually I would guess the 1pm on Friday dip on comments is probably a mass realisation that its Friday afternoon, lunch is over and I really stop looking at El Reg and finish that report/fixed that error/call that supplier/sent that email so I don’t have to do it Monday morning.

Obviously not talking from experience…

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Re: Disproportionate BMWs

“That's because Apple products are the BMWs of the computer world. They may have some nice engineering in them, but far too much of the price is for the name, and far too many of the users are total plonkers who can't see past the badge” … or know how use the products to do anything other than the most basic tasks, for example having a decent camera but using Instagram to take pictures of coffee, or being unable to figure out how to use indicators (signal lights for our American friends).

There I fixed it for you.

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Re: Disproportionate BMWs

The same goes for Merc's and Audi's.

I'd even go as far as to say that there are more plonkers driving Audi's these days than Beemers. Audi's are seemingly 'cool and hip' while Beemers are old hat.

{I drive none of the above brands, but something boring from Sweden}

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If you hate Apple then you're a lefty blog-o-twat hipster ...

NO COMMENT

... except, Limbaughs remarks might even be an insult to Apple and the Republican Party ...

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"That's because Apple products are the BMWs of the computer world. They may have some nice engineering in them, but far too much of the price is for the name, and far too many of the users are total plonkers who can't see past the badge."

Another similarity is that their owners swear they're well made when their friends know that they spend a ridiculous amount of time in the garage/away for repair compared to cheaper cars/computers.

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@a/c 6th August 2013, 06:27

"So there could also be a correlation between this and the Political Left here in the UK, as they too tend to shout the loudest, have a nastiness and are less forgiving."

Is that you Mr Limbaugh?

Left wing bias in the media? Ah, you must mean The Telegraph and The Sun and those of that ilk. Far too left wing for your liking are they?

I will, not wishing to reinforce your stereotype, refrain from shouting as I point out the complete lack of irony in your complaint about immature trolls. Please do not take offence. I am not accusing you of being immature.

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Genuine question (though I am sure I will be downvoted because it may be interpreted as pro-Apple).

Do you really think that people still buy the iPhone because of the name, or manufacturer / "badge"?

When the original iPhone came out, I could agree. Maybe even the iPhone 3G as it was the first to really hit many countries. But now? 5 years and 5 models on? Does anyone buy it thinking it's the BMW of the phone world?

Or do they buy it because they have friends or family who have one and are happy, or it's easy to use, or it has a good app ecosystem (remembering most everyone doesn't care it's a walled garden if it has everything they want) etc.

Just so people don't accuse me of being a fanboi, you can say all of these things about the Galaxy S4 too.

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Re: Disproportionate

Suggesting that the BBC is

a) impartial

and / or

b) left wing

discredits everything you have said and / or ever will say.

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Sample space = 1

I have owned exactly 1 "bimmer".

It was a fabulous piece of kit and was reliable and a pleasure to drive on the long Autobahn trips I did back then as a matter of course.

I rate it second after my Toyota, which was indestructible, but did wear out eventually ..

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Re: Disproportionate BMWs @ Steve Davies 3

Leftie liberal Volvo driving BASTARD.

;-)

Steven R

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"The Left wing bias is also prevalent and entrenched in the media (except of course the Daily Mail) including the impartial BBC."

While I would agree about the BBC, I think you are a bit confused about the politics of newspapers (perhaps you don't read any of them?):

- Times

- Telegraph

- Express

- Mail

- Sun

would all classify as right of middle

- Independent

- Guardian

- Financial Times

would be pinko Liberals

- Mirror

left wing

Where is your prevalent and entrenched left wing bias?

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@ Phil O'Sophical

"...far too many of the users are total plonkers who can't see past the badge..."

That's a generalisation and as we all know, generalisations in general are wrong.

It's true to say that many of the users are people who find OSX preferable to Windows. It's their choice. Yes, I know some richardheads who use Macs: but I know a lot more Windows users who I don't think should be allowed out without their nurse.

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Re: Disproportionate

But the BBC were one of the worst culprits for covering every i-device with as much hype as possible, whilst completely ignoring what until 2011 was the number one smartphone platform, Symbian (including in the UK, so unlike the US media, they don't have the excuse that the iphone was somewhat new to the American market). Prime culprit being the BBC tech correspondent Rory who I recall only mentioned Nokia to criticise them.

If the BBC have a "left wing bias", then that still makes a mockery of any idea of a correlation between that, and disliking Apple products.

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Indeed, I find it interesting when people simultaneously praise the "build quality" while telling us how good the "free" (that they paid for) insurance is for replacing it every time it breaks.

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First off, of course generalisations are bad - yes, some people will always buy some product as an informed decision. However, you do get people arguing it must be better, because it's made by them. The people who buy it because it's what their friends have, I would argue also still count as buying it "because of the badge".

It's also a reasonable view of many media articles, that hype up an Apple product even before its release, and then for years afterwards conclude it as the champion, with no clear reason why. It may be now the iphone 5 not the 2007 iphone, but this hype still traces all the way back to 2007.

The stereotype isn't helped by it being the only company with really prominent logos, in some cases light up.

Perhaps Samsung are aquiring a similar aspect of this too, but I don't think that's an argument against it. And I've yet to have strangers interrupt my conversation to tell me I should get an S4; you don't hear people go "Get a Samsung" in response to every technical problem someone has; you don't hear then referring to every product they only by its brandname.

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"To prove the point just send an email, you will get an automated reply.. 'Such and such is now out of the office until Mon/Tues next week'."

W O W The stupid just won't die!

OK so your one OOO proves that ALL public service departments (which we all RELY ON!) don't work on a Friday afternoon?

REALLY? Are you really that stupid?

Honestly, I get sick of hearing this bullshite day in and day out.

I work in the public sector, alot of my colleagues vote Tory.

Look, you can't argue with stupid. I suppose this may be a explaination as to why £1ms of public funds are wasted? How could a Tory know what is and isn't good value?

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""The Left wing bias is also prevalent and entrenched in the media (except of course the Daily Mail) including the impartial BBC."

While I would agree about the BBC, I think you are a bit confused about the politics of newspapers (perhaps you don't read any of them?):

- Times

- Telegraph

- Express

- Mail

- Sun

would all classify as right of middle

- Independent

- Guardian

- Financial Times

would be pinko Liberals

- Mirror

left wing

Where is your prevalent and entrenched left wing bias?"

I do not read newspapers! Who does? Do you really make your decisions in life based on what OTHER PEOPLE think? Have you not realised yet that you get respect for making your OWN MIND up and not regurgitating other peoples bull shit?

I've not read a newspaper since I was 19/20 years old. Yes I was that young when I realised that newspapers are for losers!

Whether that be the bigoted bare arsed builder with peado leanings (wanking over a barely legal teen with her tits out in a national paper) or the greed bastard times reader and every spectrum of social low life in between.

Who the fuck gives you a vote FFS? No wonder the country of full of social retards!

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Re: Disproportionate

The 54 downvotes illustrate you point perfectly. The Register is sadly infested with stupid.

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Guardian is as left as they come. The Mail and Express verge on Nazism.

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@Steven Raith

OI! I resemble that remark. :o)

My current Volvo was made in Belgium, much to the amusement of my best mate.

Lovely cars for the more mature commie subversive bastard. :o)

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Ahhhh...a Koenigsegg

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"I've not read a newspaper since I was 19/20 years old. Yes I was that young when I realised that newspapers are for losers!"

Let me guess. You're nearly 21 now?

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Audi drivers aren't plonkers, they're cocks. The title was officially passed from BMW drivers to Audi drivers a few years ago. Also their cars have sparkly eye liner.

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

Barking is right, although I haven't ruled out it being an act to earn money. Remember the little Ayn Rand fan club full of republicans that were so happy they found someones ideals to follow that would get them a small government (except when a tornado blows their house down for the 37th year in a row and they want FEMA there) and less taxes. They based all this on a movie adaptation of a book. Obviously they never actually read any of her work, heard her talk or indeed actually tried to understand objectivism otherwise they would have understood she supported gay rights and abortion, not exactly key republican manifesto commitments. The problem with politics (and this goes for all parties) is that it doesn't have to be right or even sound right, it just has to sound like it will get people what they want and they will ignore anything else just like you could see the strings in thunderbirds. Rush is either a complete raving fool or a very shrewd performer.

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Re: Disproportionate @ac 07:30

Except that Hitler was left wing. Clue's in the name: National Socialist German Workers' Party.

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quote: "Do you really think that people still buy the iPhone because of the name, or manufacturer / "badge"?"

Yes (sample size: quite a lot). The corporate entity I work for has been supplying blackberries for years, and when we get the inevitable "I don't actually want that, can you support device X instead?" over 90% of the requests I've heard of involve the words iPhone or iPad.

Staff who just want a device appear to be fine with the blackberry, it seems that only those people who want to be able to show others an iDevice are the ones asking for something different (most of whom are upper management, or Marketing). At least in my experience, YMMV of course.

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While I agree with your point, I would make a few changes

- Times

- Telegraph

- Sun

Right of middle

- Independent

- Financial Times

Left of middle

- Mirror

- Guardian

Left wing pinko commies

- Express

- Mail

More right wing than Ghengis Khan

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Guardian is middle left. You need to read more if you think that's "as left as they come".

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Disproportionate? Are you serious? Do us all a favour and vanish making short sharp jerking motions.

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Re: Disproportionate @Obviously!

"I do not read newspapers! Who does? Do you really make your decisions in life based on what OTHER PEOPLE think? Have you not realised yet that you get respect for making your OWN MIND up and not regurgitating other peoples bull shit? I've not read a newspaper since I was 19/20 years old. Yes I was that young when I realised that newspapers are for losers!"

I’m sorry, so what source of information do you get that nobody else knows about? I can just imagine the conversations you have...

Sane person “I read in the paper that the Man United won the league last season”

You “STOP REGURATATING OTHER PEOPLES BULLSHIT”

What source of information is not taken from someone else? Or do you just guess what’s going on in the rest of the world, or do things only exist if you can see them?

You “excuse me, do you know the way to the train station?”

Person 1 “No Sorry, hold on, Bob do you know the way to the train station?”

Bob “Yeah take a right at the end of the street, then the left at the second set of traffic lights and you can see it from there”

Person 1 “thanks Bob, (turns to you) did you get that mate?”

You “STOP REGURATATING OTHER PEOPLES BULLSHIT

People give you more respect from formulating an educated opinion on a subject based on the information available to you, rather than just going “Sorry, I don’t read newspapers I don’t have a fucking clue what you are talking about”

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@mahrag

I believe people call them 'the voices'. You are just jealous because they don't speak to you ;-)

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

Trouble is that you are crediting Rush Limbaugh with actually having any logic. Nothing anyone says will change neocons like Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly (and most of the rest of the Fox News crew) opinions of themselves as saviours and protectors of their nation. Normal people see them for the bigoted, right-wing nationalistic, homophobic, protectionist weirdos suffering from a persecution complex that they actually are.

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

"if you prefer kit from Google/Samsung you are by his definition left-wing and if you prefer kit from Apple/Foxcon you are right-wing?"

I wonder how he squares that view with Obama administration's executive order that's protecting Apple from the WTO ruling against Apple in favour of Samsung (ban on old iPhone sales in the US for patent infringement that got quashed by Obama).

Presumably if someone tells him that Obama is protecting Apple his head will explode or something. Please?

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Re: @ Phil O'Sophical

"That's a generalisation and as we all know, generalisations in general are wrong"

Back in New York for exactly 24 hours, drive out to get my new glasses. Encounter my first BMW of the day driven by 30-summat woman, signalling left at the light at Nicolls Rd and Straight Path and pulled too far forward to make the turn. Decides *as I am pulling alongside to go straight-on* to go straight after all, which involves almost sideswiping me as she corrects her line.

Throughout the drive, in my mirror I see her make another three bogus signals and last minute re-decisions not to bother at consecutive traffic lights, to the immediate cost of other drivers. God alone knows how many she made while I wasn't checking the rear view.

She then tailgates me for about a mile and a half, and when I make a turn she gives me the finger for not speeding (to judge by the roar of her engine as she sprinted the last twenty yards to the red light at route 110).

If the generalization wasn't accurate I guess I hit the one in a million chance of getting the BMW muppet.

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> Do you really think that people still buy the iPhone because of the name, or manufacturer / "badge"?

Yes.

Although that is a far less meaningful declaration now that Apple has become a minority player.

However there are plenty of crap products that manage to thrive (likely through marketing and critical mass).

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Re: @ Phil O'Sophical

"generalisations in general are wrong."

Actually they are not. While it may not apply to 100% of the people all of the time. A generalization is based on recurring trends/cases we each observe and has a greater chance (IMO) of being the correct situation most of the time. There are always exceptions but they are few compared to the trend.

Apple sells a very limited product line, but they have multiple generations of each. Many times (if not most of the time) they added features that had already existed on other brands versions. Apple can sell its products at higher prices not because their hardware is that superior, but because they have brand recognition and many fashionistas want that recognition. Just as many (not all) owners of Harley Davidsons pay a premium for a harley over other brands to simply own and be seen on a Harley.

There will always be followers. Just ask each person you meet why they chose one brand over the other. If they spout marketing verbiage to you...you know they were a follower. If they can provide a specific reason and how that helps them achieve their task....they were knowledgeable when making their choice. This is of course my opinion and you may disagree with it. It's your choice.

Best wishes on keeping what you earned,

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Re: Disproportionate @ac 07:30

> National Socialist German Workers' Party

is as Socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is Democratic.

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Re: Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........

In some circles, it's generally believed that Fox "commentators" are only in the game for the money, and they'll say whatever they think will improve their cash flow. Facts, logic, and other meritorious aspects of "the news" play no role in this. It's direct appeal to gut emotions that works.

Pretty much the same thing can be said about the American anti-gay industry, which features such bozos as Maggie Gallagher, Brian Brown, Eugene Delgaudio, and a host of other grifters.

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only a matter of time before he's found dressed in a pinafore, lying face down in a puddle of his own vomit somewhere behind a transgender strip club in San Francisco.

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