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Two years after Bon Jovi accused Steve Jobs of killing the music industry, the band's keyboardist, David Bryan, let their Google flag fly when he donned Mountain View's wearable Glass computer device while playing a sold-out gig. The world's biggest Glasshole, PR spindoctor Chris Barrett, persuaded the least famous member of the …

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Can we stop the stop repeating the 'Glasshole' meme over and over and over on every single article about Google Glass please ? It's offensive in a way that 'fanboi' isn't and it's like listening to a kid with a new favourite naughty word - it gets tiresome really fucking quickly.

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...and while we are at it can we come up with an offensive term for 'Citizen Journalism', as opposed to 'People recording stuff'', which is what it really is.

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But Chris Barrett most definitely IS a Glasshole

I know some people don't like the term Glasshole, but I'll wager saying so will just make The Reg use it more.

At least that has been the case in the past for other terms people have taken issue with such as 'mobe', which was so hated they eventually had a poll about whether to ban use of that term and they were (mostly) forced to do so!

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I disagree. This is my first encounter with this term, and I can see a long future ahead for it.

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What are we supposed to call them then? Just regular asshole? Asshole with silly thing on face? Asshole 7 of 9? Early Adopter Asshole (that one sort of limits itself I guess). Gooholes?

You pick.

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"What are we supposed to call them then? Just regular asshole? Asshole with silly thing on face? Asshole 7 of 9? Early Adopter Asshole (that one sort of limits itself I guess). Gooholes?"

Well golly gosh - I don't know.... perhaps we could grow the fuck up a bit and not instantly label every single person who tries these out an 'asshole' of any sort. Fat fucking chance around here mind... I mean - poke fun at them, perhaps, but 'asshole' is just plain insulting, and not that funny when it repeated over and over again at every opportunity IMO.

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Why, do you want a pair? Don't like the thought of everything thinking you're an asshole? Think you're too late.

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"> poke fun at them, perhaps, but 'asshole' is just plain insulting, and not that funny

Yes but these are people filming us without our permission. I am *really* *not* *happy* about this. They're arseholes, and I don't care if they don't like it."

Not all of them are looking at them for filming other peoples life - there are a lot of developers out there talking about the HUD / "augmented reality" aspect of it (not sure I like that phrase either), for instance, how probably couldn't give a rats ass about recording anything. I dislike that everyone is tarred with same insult.

"> perhaps we could grow the fuck up a bit

er, is this an oxymoron? If you don't like bad language then I suggest you stop fucking using it."

It's not the occasional use of an expletive I mind, it's the over-use of their favourite new word that is getting on my nerves - so, no, not an oxymoron.

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"Why, do you want a pair? "

Nope.

"Don't like the thought of everything thinking you're an asshole? Think you're too late."

I'm an asshole because I used my real account details to say I thought using a fairly hefty insult to apply to an entire group of people was (IMO) rather strong, and it's repetition irritating ? I don't particularly care if people disagree with me, that's their right, but being an asshole for saying that - really AC ?

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What are we supposed to call them then?

Something I can say in front of my munchkins without worrying that they're going to repeat it to my parents would be nice.

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Googlyeyes?

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Re: But Chris Barrett most definitely IS a Glasshole

Fuck you. We love saying that. Maybe the Reg will start using that more?

No, it is employed because it is a nice half way mark between the product in question and a suitably derogative swear word that they wouldn't usually choose to use, and can be employed en masse against every single person using the product because there aren't many of them, we don't know them, we are assumed not to like the technology (and therefore the person using it), and frankly it is not far removed from what could be found rife in Hitler's Germany. Ithankew.

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we come up with an offensive term for 'Citizen Journalism', as opposed to 'People recording stuff''

Sadly I don't have a better term, but an observation:

Chris Barrett runs a company called PRServe, which runs publicity campaigns for startups, and is one of the Chocolate Factory's Google Glass Explorers.

His first major coup was capturing footage in the aftermath of a fight on Jersey Shore without either party noticing that he was filming.

Isn't it telling that the first PR created was effectively spying on people? I hope he encounters reality soon.

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I'm an asshole because I used my real account details to say I thought using a fairly hefty insult to apply to an entire group of people was (IMO) rather strong, and it's repetition irritating ? I don't particularly care if people disagree with me, that's their right, but being an asshole for saying that - really AC ?

There is no correlation between arsehole status and the use of A/C accounts. However, the fact that you just chose to make that association makes you one. Now go and get your Google Glasses already.

Oh, on that topic: I don't care if someone is allegedly using for benign purposes. It still has recording capabilities and there is as yet too little known about the device to trust it. Given history, I fully suspect Google to say after a couple of months that they have *cough* accidentally *cough* left all the cameras on on the Glasses of Glassholes everywhere. I rather not give them the chance. Better make this stuff as embarrassing as possible upfront so we limit exposure to both Google's NSA sponsored data acquisition and, of course, people called Glassholes.

So, Glassholes gets my vote, multiple times over.

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Something I can say in front of my munchkins without worrying that they're going to repeat it to my parents would be nice.

It's hard. Calling them idiots would be insulting to idiots, so it's a bit of a conundrum..

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"There is no correlation between arsehole status and the use of A/C accounts. However, the fact that you just chose to make that association makes you one."

I didn't make that association, much as I dislike ACs in general. What makes you think I did ?

"Now go and get your Google Glasses already."

Why do you think I want some, just because I objected to what I saw as overly-repetitive juvenile jibes ?

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What are we supposed to call them then?

Well... a toughie... They have an overwhelming need to try out the latest gadget or shiney with total disregard for how it helps the Paranoids in Power by eroding their own privacy and the privacy of everyone around them...

How about 'unwitting collaborators'?

(Geez, this sounds so paranoid... but it fits with the times.)

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Re: 'Citizen Journalism'

How about "Glassholing"?

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"Well golly gosh - I don't know.... perhaps we could grow the fuck up a bit and not instantly label every single person who tries these out an 'asshole' of any sort. Fat fucking chance around here mind... I mean - poke fun at them, perhaps, but 'asshole' is just plain insulting, and not that funny when it repeated over and over again at every opportunity IMO."

It is called profiling and guess what, it works for a reason.

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"Yes but these are people filming us without our permission"

So is the state, everywhere you go, your mobile sends tracking information about you everywhere you go, every shop you walk in, police cars, citizens with dash cams, people filming themselves and catching you in the frame, etc etc etc, you are being filmed and tracked everywhere you go but you're "*really* *not* *happy*" about someone with a pair of glasses doing the filming instead?

Where's the fekking "reality check" icon?

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Re: 'Citizen Journalism'

Re: 'Citizen Journalism'

How about "Glassholing"?

Dear Sir, regrettably, this site only allows my to upvote you once. Have 10 virtual ones on me as well.

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But not as offensive as your illiteracy and vulgarity, eh?

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The "industry" needs killing.

The music doesn't.

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The best use

I can think of for Glass is in the police force. See a fight on the street? Glass records it, arrest somebody glass records it (and when they claim brutality you have a first person view of what happened) criminal getting away by car? Chrome GPS pops up and tells you how to get to maple and 7th. For average joe, I don't see that many uses though aside from being an annoyance. Could be good for some decent youtube videos etc. Cooking lessons or piano lessons "Hey you can follow my hands" where you won't need a second camera man because you're the camera etc.

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Re: The best use.. not crime fighting

a camera on glasses encourages people to hit you in the eye.. That's why cyclist put camera on top of helmets and police on shoulders.. glasshole is better than Google Blinds

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Re: The best use

"Unfortunatly m'lord, my recording device malfunctioned during the arrest and subsequently failed to capture the accused throwing himself down the stairs"

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Come back when .....

...... they look like Spider Jerusalem's glasses and you may have a customer, until then no thanks.

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Or Deidre Barlow's circa 1985.

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I highly doubt this was the first time a concert was recorded from a performer's POV

It isn't as though cameras mounted to the head have never existed.

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Re: I highly doubt this was the first time a concert was recorded from a performer's POV

Great, every band in the future is going to look like bloody Orbital!

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Re: I highly doubt this was the first time a concert was recorded from a performer's POV

Thank whomever I got those tickets free, watching 2 guys with miners lamps on dance around and occasionally press play on a cd player is not a gig. There were more people queuing for the toilets than in the hall

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Re: I highly doubt this was the first time a concert was recorded from a performer's POV

Orbital would be good performers if they actually pressed play on their CD player in a gents toilet instead of an empty nightclub - I would genuinely pay to see that.

I think 20p is the going rate for bogs in railways stations aint it? Yep i'd pay 20p to see Orbital.

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killing the music industry

Can I quote again Mitch Benn from the now show:

"Downloading isn't destorying music. Simon Cowell is destroying music."

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Re: killing the music industry

Don't be silly, Bon Jovi were killing music with their bland cock rock years before Cowell.....

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@AC 08:22 (was: Re: killing the music industry)

But AC, I don't think you (or anybody else) can show an example of Cowell actually doing anything useful for the music industry, outside of padding his pocketbook ... It's the industry that sucks, not the music ...

Yes, I agree, Bon Jovi was almost as bad as Disco.

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Re: @AC 08:22 (was: killing the music industry)

Yes, Bon Jovi at his peak was definitely bad medicine.

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Glasshole

Loving that one ...

For the more sensitive ... how about just ....

Glassboob

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Pedantic correction

"biting the heads off bats" was a front-stage activity for Ozzy.

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Rubbish international pricing strategies killed music

Album on Amazon UK £6.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Devil-Put-Dinosaurs-Here/dp/B00CWM7VJM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375346221&sr=8-2&keywords=the+devil+dinosaurs

Same album in Amazon USA $5.99

http://www.amazon.com/The-Devil-Put-Dinosaurs-Here/dp/B00CWM3F4C/ref=sr_1_1_bnp_1_mus?ie=UTF8&qid=1375346314&sr=8-1&keywords=the+devil+put

So £6.99 vs £3.96 (according to online currency convertor)

So the record companies don't think I notice I'm getting financially shafted? Except I'm not - I'm just not buying, I'll just use Spotify or not listen..

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Re: Rubbish international pricing strategies killed music

£6.99 vs £3.96

"So the record companies don't think I notice I'm getting financially shafted?"

Assuming "they" are driven by profit, enough people (aka consumers) don't notice. Or notice, but don't care. Or notice, and care, but don't care enough. Or notice, care enough, and use alternative channels to acquire what they want (some of which I won't dare mention, because of the censorship*).

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Barrett = Ballmer

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It looks far more exciting in this showreel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yaXPx6xWEQ

oh, wait, that's 1995...

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:) Hilarious that they kept calling it a "tape". "You're there, you're doing it, you're feeling it" .. Google Glass has a way to go.

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"He has often waxed lyrical about a future where everyone records everything, all the time. "

When I saw this I instantly thought of Bob Shaw's "Other Days, Other Eyes" novel which I found more terrifying a concept than 1984.

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I was just telling someone about that novel the other day. Shaw at his best.

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The record companies did it

The record corporations pushed digital music because there were so many pressing their own vinyl records (creating competition) and recording music on cassette (instead of buying it). They tried to "flip the script" and wound up screwing themselves in the arse.

Glass holes is an acuarate discription.

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after Bon Jovi accused Steve Jobs [...] David Bryan, let their Google flag fly

Next thing we learn, Google bribed them with a free GMail account? Seriously. I'll start worrying when they get a Google tatoo.

And what's wrong with GG? It's a HUD. Video-capable? Yup. But when a girl has her phone facing me, how can I be sure she's not taking my picture, filming me or running a facial recognition software to find about me? At least GG turn on a red LED to warn you.

Regarding looks, is wearing GG worse that clutching all day to a smartphone? I'd rather keep my hands free.

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I still think that, while till wildly inaccurate, "Apple saved the music industry" would be a lot closer to the truth than "Apple killed the music industry". If they hadn't dragged the music industry kicking and screaming into the 21st century they'd still be trying to stay afloat by selling shiny plastic discs that no one buys anymore.

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Because no one did mp3s before Apple Records did(!)

I'm more concerned now though how places seem to be drying up - a few years ago there were loads of places to buy mp3s, now it seems to be for many bands "let's only offer it on itunes", in some cases trumpeting the exclusivity as if it were a good thing, or making whole albums itunes-only. Lack of choice to buy from is not a good thing, and will do far more harm than downloading or anything else (same with the trend in videos and TV to make things only viewable on an ipad - hopefully Chromecast will put an end to that). I've also seen people say they want to buy other media players, but aren't sure if the Apple non-mp3 format their music is in, because they bought it in, will work on devices other than ipods (I don't know if this is a valid concern or not, but again it's discouraging competition in the market).

Shiny plastic discs? I stream my music from Google Music to the TV speakers - having to plug in a device and play from physical media is so 20th Century.

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