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The owners of a fast-food truck are bemoaning their ejection from a New York horse racing track, after the powers that be deemed its snappy name "Wandering Dago" a tad offensive to Italian Americans. Wandering Dago proprietors Andrea Loguidice and Brandon Snooks (pictured below) had secured a spot to sell their nosh to punters …

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So I should scrap the plan...

to move to NY and open a fresh fruit drinks stand called "Limey Drinks"?

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Re: So I should scrap the plan...

Nah, I'd go with: "Suck My Plums"

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Re: So I should scrap the plan...

"So I should scrap the plan to move to NY and open a fresh fruit drinks stand called 'Limey Drinks'?"

Well they have a racial slur and a big fat pig on their logo, in case anyone isn't getting the, uh, message, such as it is. So they are way, way ahead of your little limeade drink stand.

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Re: So I should scrap the plan...

For the benefit of non-native English-speakers, there's a traditional dish from the north of England called faggots (they're a type of meatball including liver, traditionally served with mushy peas).

When we had a bunch of friends over from the states, one of our guys who's a serious cook did a sort of "fusion cooking" version of them which were coloured with (I think) beetroot and flavoured with (among other things) lime leaves.

They were very nice, but the main reason was so he could put "Pinko Limey Faggots" on the menu...

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It is bizarre that they think the name is acceptable, shows lack of understanding and poor education as even here in the UK it is used as a derogatory term. I'm surprised some Mafia types haven't set them on fire yet.

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Americans... Here in Australia it would elicit a laugh, hell we had a hit movie called 'Wog Boy' and no-one bitched about it.

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In Australia

you have "Coon cheese"

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In Australia

Australia seems to be a seriously racist place. I have a friend of Sri Lankan origin whose office nickname in Australia is Apu. The fact that no one bitched about "Wog Boy" is not necessarily a good thing.

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Re: In Australia

"Its just a naaaaame"

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Re: Coon cheese

Coon cheese is named after its creator, Edward Coon.

Nothing racist about it.

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Re: In Australia

> Australia seems to be a seriously racist place.

Racism only has power if you take it in any way serious.

All this political correctness stuff is really the wrong way to handle it.

The gay community have known this for a *long* time, such that they are reclaiming the "queer" usage to rid it of its sting.

You can't deal with genuine racism by stifling its words, that's just silly.

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Re: In Australia

So its perfectly acceptable for us to be referred to as convicts and criminals, but god forbid we make fun of anyone else based on their forebears?

Humanity developed large brains in order to learn how to deal with each other. If you are unable to deal with how our culture works, then it just goes to show your brain is not as developed as you would like to believe it is.

Besides, we're too busy worrying about being bit on the arse by a redback or funnelweb spider, or brown snake, or taipan, or getting our nuts bit off by saltwater crocs, or great whites, to have to worry about being politically correct.

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Re: In Australia

Australia seems to be a seriously racist place. I have a friend of Sri Lankan origin whose office nickname in Australia is Apu. The fact that no one bitched about "Wog Boy" is not necessarily a good thing.

You have completely failed to understand the Aussie way. Calling him Apu is a term of endearment: it would be an insult to still be calling him Mr <insert real surname here> after working with him for a long time in the office. Aussies call their best mates things like dickhead and wanker and it's taken as a sign of respect.

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"Last year, Wandering Dago was denied a permit to sell food at the Empire State Plaza in Albany, on similar grounds"

Maybe they should of taken the hint and gone for a name change.....

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Indeed. One does wonder at their business sense, when its actually happened before. After all, its a couple of sticker changes on the van, and heypresto, "Wandering Fagot"

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FFS

Should _HAVE_. Grrr.

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Re: "Wandering Fagot"

Yes, but with Bloomie as mayor, they know better than to be trying to run a wander truck selling cigarettes.

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Dunno, they seem to be milking the publicity quite nicely.

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"..who would self-reference themselves in a deragotory manner?"

Ask the members of NWA. :)

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Re: "..who would self-reference themselves in a deragotory manner?"

Why on earth did you get a downvote for that?

Here have an upvote

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Re: "..who would self-reference themselves in a deragotory manner?"

"..who would self-reference themselves in a deragotory manner?"

"Ask the members of NWA"

Your answer is its own rebuttal: There is nothing inherently offensive about the letters N, W, or A. And NWA uses this three-letter acronym for a reason, yes?

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Re: "..who would self-reference themselves in a deragotory manner?"

Is it bad that I initally read that as 'NRA'? Maybe it's the Elmer Fudd brach, the National Wifles Association?

And before antone points it out, yes I DO know who NWA are/were.

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Re: "NWA uses this three-letter acronym for a reason, yes?"

Yes, they used it because they want to refer to themselves as "Niggaz Wit Attitudes", and yes, they were exactly and entirely using the word in a self-deprecatory fashion. I refer you to the title of their second album, which, although printed backwards, was also in mirror writing, making it very clear that the album's name was "Niggaz4Life"; who exactly do you think they were referring to as being what for life? You could also try checking out the track listing from that album, or you could even try listening to their music and understanding what they mean by the use of the word.

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Offensive vs Business sense

Dunno how offensive the term is - I've never heard it used politely, but it seems bad business sense to drive away a section of potential customers.

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Re: Offensive vs Business sense

The publicity more than makes up for losing a few customers I expect.

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If a Dago is Italian than what is a Wop?

I wish our colonialists would stop messing with our insults.

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They're the same as this classic demonstrates:-

Pirelli tyres,

Dago through water,

Dago througn snow,

And when Dago flat

Dago Wop, Wop, Wop

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A more complete list of racial/national epithets may be found here.

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Reminds me a little of Fawlty Towers when the Major was recounting a story:

‘The strange thing was, throughout the morning she kept referring to the Indians as niggers. “No, no, no,” I said, “the niggers are the West Indians. These people are wogs”.’

So, I imagine he would say "No, no, no, the Spanish are dagos, these people are wops!"

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Not water/snow:, but rain/slop.

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Ellis Island story

As the story goes, WOP stands for "With Out Papers" and a small paper tag was attached to immigrants at Ellis Island (the holding area for new immugants) when the came to America andd had no papers or other documentation to prove who they were or where they came from.

This mainly affected Italian and Sicilian immigrants as they were the mainstay of the particular wave of immigration at the time.

The Irish got here before the Italians did and since they spoke English (albeit with a thick brogue), the immigration people could understand what they were saying (mostly). This was not true of the Italians or Germans which is why there were many inadvertent name changes and misspellings among those new immigrants.

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A famous person once said*; "Britain and America are two nations divided by a common language".

Ask anyone that's traveled in the US, and he'll tell you that the US is 50 states united by three common languages in 300 sub dialects.

Slang that means one thing in one area, and be completely innocuous, might mean the exact opposite in another and be considered a vile slur.

English is a wonderful language, it's just that nobody can agree what it is! (Not even in its birthplace!)

*Wilde, Shaw, Russell, Thomas, Churchill... take your pick.

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Deemed offensive to Italian Americans, oddly, not Hispanics

I'm not in any way trying to be racist or derogatory, but my understanding of American culture (being a Limey) was that the common epithet for Hispanics was "spic" .

I don't think that, if two African-Americans had set up a fast food joint called Wandering N***er, they would be surprised if people were offended by that, so why should this be any different?

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Re: Deemed offensive to Italian Americans, oddly, not Hispanics

All slurs depend somewhat on locality down to the city level. Where I came from your epithet was more specifically someone from Peurto Rico. (Ever since I saw the Dirty Harry movies I've tried to keep a mental checklist of slurs to riff on one of the lines.)

The problem with your counter example, is that if two blacks did try to license such a truck and set it up in downtown NYC, it would be featured on every MSM news report as a great place to eat. And everyone would be happily repeating the name.

How do I know? I made the mistake of accepting a recommendation to see Pulp Fiction.

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Re: Deemed offensive to Italian Americans, oddly, not Hispanics

My wife is Puerto Rican, and on occasion I find an excuse to use the term "spic and span" specifically for that reason. But we both make terrible racial jokes on occasion, because we know one another and we know what we mean by it.

But we recognize the difference between that and dealing with the public, and neither of us would think it would be a great idea to start up a restaurant called "Spic-and-Kike's"...

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A bunch of white knights being offended on behalf of the people who chose the name for themselves.

And people wonder why I'm so cynical these days...

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Why do you think they were white?

Maybe they were Hispanic or of Italian origin, or maybe Jewish or from t e Middle East, and just didn't like a company using a racial slur as part of their business name. And white people ought to be offended by words they used to employ when white supremacy was the order of the day. Shock (and, I hope, shame) should be part of that 'offended'.

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"A bunch of white knights being offended on behalf of the people who chose the name for themselves."

Do you know anything about the people who were complaining? Neither do I. But why should the racetrack permit vendors who gratuitously offend their clientele?

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Re: Why do you think they were white?

You have no idea what the phrase " white knight" means, do you.

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We've still got quite a strong Italian American lobby (National Italian American Foundation, for instance) who send vigorous letters of complaint to any media that suggests that there might ever have been a Mafia in Italy and that surely this is a scurrilous lie and the Teamsters and New Jersey waste management companies are completely legitimate businessmen.

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Angel

So

When'sa their Delmio day?

cringe

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@oldtaku

You can call them by what they want to be called. The rest of us call them by their real name: The Mafia. Because only real mafiosos come down as hard on movies as they do.

What I've found over time is that the best dago/wop jokes come from Italians, the best Pollock jokes come from Poles, and the best mick jokes come from the Irish. They frequently keep lists of them. And the ones who keep the lists are some of the most fun people to be around because they are comfortable and secure in their own skins. The people who keep trying to purge the language are the ones I don't want to be around.

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Re: @oldtaku

My grandfather was born in Poland, so here goes.

It's the height of the cold war, and two guys in Warsaw decide that they've got to escape to the West. They decide that the best thing to do is to hijack an aircraft, so off they go to the airport. Well, by a miracle, they sneak through security and onto the tarmac and get inside this jet. But it's bigger than they expected, and the guy who was going to fly it is having a hard time getting it started.

"Hurry up, hurry up!", his friend says, "I can hear sirens! The police are coming!"

"I'm going as fast as I can!", his friend says, "...but I need more time! I'm a simple Pole in a complex plane!"

I'll be here all week.

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Survey.

"While Loguidice earlier this week resisted suggestions a name change might be in order ("It’s still America. Last time I checked, we were still on this side of the planet," she told the NY Daily News), the Wandering Dago Facebook page now has a poll asking Joe Public to vote on the matter. "

Even though I don't have a Facebook account, I can access their poll and see that it lacks an option allowing the "voters" to cast their vote in support of a proposition along the lines of "I think that Loguidice and Snooks are complete assholes".

This is a glaring omission, severely undermining the scientific value of the poll.

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See also...

Baron Silas Greenbacks henchcrow Stiletto who had to be revoiced as a dodgy Londoner for US distribution.

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Re: See also...

+1 for the DM reference.

Si Baroney

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Funny isn't it that somehow it is okay in the US to stereotype the British as either clueless poshos or cockney thugs, when it is well known that those groups make up no more than 70% of our actual population.

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The "Wandering Wop"

Perhaps?

(Though that word was removed from the US edition of "The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy", I was once told.)

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Re: The "Wandering Wop"

So please tell us what 100,000 people in a cricket stadium eliciting a single sound at the same time is supposed to sound like in America then?

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Re: The "Wandering Wop"

Apparently it sounds like "whop".

As in "whang", "whank" and "whilly".

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