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After a US judge refused Apple's request to add the Galaxy S 4 to the list of products for which Cupertino accuses Samsung of infringing upon its patents, Cook's crew is threatening to fire up yet another lawsuit against the Korean smartphone and tablet rival. US Magistrate Judge Paul Grewal turned down Apple's petition to add …

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Another one?

Damned things are like the Hydra... Chop one off and two appear in its place...

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Re: Another one?

I have a question, this lawsuit, are these the same patents that a UK court found were invalid?

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Re: Another one?

Possibly... Different jurisdictions though.....

There are so many suits going on between every different party that its impossivpble to keep up... Winners and losers? No.. Only losers and its us the consumer doing the losing...

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Re: Another one?

Hey, that's not fair!

The lawyers are winning hands down!

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Re: Another one?

Not quite.

A proficient lawyer NEVER shows you what his hands are doing.

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Re: Another one?

A UK court found some some design/trade-dress similarities between iPad and Galaxy Tab not close enough to merit an injunction.

So no.

These are the same patents that a California jury already found infringed in the S3 and other Samsung phones.

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Re: Another one?

"are these the same patents that a UK court found were invalid?" but of course the 'mericans don't and will try to flog to death hoping that their chose of ifolly does not embarrass them anymore.

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"legal beagles" - what a fantastic strapline.

For those that don't have a tradition of fox hunting - the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable according to Oscar Wilde, beagles are the repulsive pack dogs that live in compounds eating the discarded carcasses of stillborn farm animals.

Once in a while, when their masters decide, they get to tear a real live functioning animal to shreds.

Not much like patent lawyers then...

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FAIL

The whole Apple vs. Samsung is not funny anymore.

When will they realize that people just don't care about this crap..

Let us buy what we want.

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When will they realize that people just don't care about this crap..

Well, I do care, in so much that although I like their products, this crap in court is annoying me to the point where I'm reconsidering any further purchase. What Apple doesn't seem to realise is that this gambling in the court creates a business risk for its users - you cannot plan an IT strategy on *either* company involved in this rubbish and as far as I can see, it's Apple who keeps adding fuel to the fire every time they're near a court.

Message to Tim Cook: innovate, don't litigate. Or lose the business you managed to establish.

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Headmaster

"Or lose the business you managed to establish."

Errm, try: "Or lose the business Jobs managed to establish."

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and re-establish

once he got rid of that assclown Gil Amelio

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Unless it were your product you felt someone else was infringing I bet...?

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"Message to Tim Cook: innovate, don't litigate. Or lose the business you managed to establish."

Looking at the latest figures I'd say that it's too late.

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What's the point in innovating when anybody can just copy your stuff?

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"What's the point in innovating when anybody can just copy your stuff?"

When is rounded corners innovating?

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Re: What's the point in innovating when anybody can just copy your stuff?

@GeirOElnir...you mean like Boy Wonder did?

http://www.edibleapple.com/2010/03/03/steve-jobs-referenced-good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/

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Risk/Reward

An, but who is more at risk in the all important US market for smart phones? Apple does have home court advantage in the US legal system; far less likely to be on the receiving end of an US trade injunction let alone actually paying Samsung damages. Take another look at their legal teams. One of them is a well known gambler when it comes to the courtroom.

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It's getting really boring now

Only one story on Apple suing in the last month? Are they slipping? Perhaps their lawyers are on holiday?

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Ugh.

Seriously Apple, just make products people want, and stop with these petty tactics. The S4 is not at all confused for any iPhone. That plasticy build is clearly a world apart. They changed it. It's no S2. Stop it.

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Re: Ugh.

" The S4 is not at all confused for any iPhone. That plasticy build is clearly a world apart." and is something which is appealing to vast numbers of consumers considering the iFolly looks as old as a motorola razr.

No wonder the iFolly market is shrinking! It’s as old and decrepit as its user base.

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IMHO - both iOS and Android can go the way of the Dodo.

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Are you by any chance a Blackberry or Windows Phone user?

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Careful

Don't mention the 'W' word. If it's mentioned three times in the comments, Eadon appears!

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Happy

@ stephajn -

BREW.

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@stephajn

Haven't seen his other posts? He's got Microsoft-phillia.

I myself am a Blackberry user. I'd rather have other alternatives like the Elop-murdered Symbian for a replacement smartphone, but as it stands it seems BB is still the only one that gives me both security and privacy these days, and isn't Yet Another Annoying Microsoap Product.

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Re: Careful

(in the vein of BeetleJuice)

MICROSOFT WINDOWS, MICROSOFT WINDOWS, MICROSOFT WINDOWS!!!!

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Are you by any chance a Blackberry or the Windows Phone user?

There, fixed that for ya'.

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No. A soon to be "no more smartphone" user. As soon as a Baytrail Win8 is out the Note 2 goes into the bay.

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iPads due for a refresh

As has already been established in the court, Apple didn't invent the tablet computer (or phone). And if they don't release a new iPad soon, then Amazon, Google and Samsung will all be offering better products (Kindle, Nexus, Galaxy, Note, etc).

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"And if they don't release a new iPad soon, then Amazon, Google and Samsung will all be offering better products (Kindle, Nexus, Galaxy, Note, etc)."

And if they don't release a new iPad soon, then Amazon, Google and Samsung will all continue offering better products (Kindle, Nexus, Galaxy, Note, etc).

... just a minor tweak.

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As if there wasn't going to be another one?

The court may as well schedule a standing reservation for this nonsense. Make the parties build their own courthouse and hire their own judge and court staff. Maybe pay for it with lawyer mixed martial arts cage matches on pay-per-view.

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Re: As if there wasn't going to be another one?

"Maybe pay for it with lawyer mixed martial arts cage matches on pay-per-view."

Yes!! Read "Gladiator-at-law" by Pohl & Kornbluth to see what a great spectator sport that could be. It would also provide a much-needed lawyer cull.

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Re: As if there wasn't going to be another one?

Just lay a few gas pipes and get it over with.

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Re: As if there wasn't going to be another one?

I think we should go with the BOFH's method of sorting out negotiations, put them all in a conference room with a brick under each seat. Tell them last man standing will get the deal and seal the door.

Oh, dont remember to advice the surviving contestant to take the service elevator to the bathroom, its slightly faster(you need to wipe away the blood and brainy bits offcourse). Note that this elevator will first act like a carnival ride between floor 1 and 8 and concequently gets stuck in the basement(where noone will hear the banging). This should were him down sufficiently for final negotiations.

Much cheaper and double the fun over CCTV!

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Self defeating behaviour?

If Apple wish to decrease their share value further through contentious behaviour ( and the resultant less than favourable press presented to investors) they certainly appear to be going the right way about it. With the hand of Mr. "Reality Distortion Field" Jobs (RIP) no longer at the helm, I get the impression of a steady descent into corporate mediocrity. Just MHO.

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Unhappy

Mum. Can we go home now? I bored.

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Damn

I wish this whole patent litigation thing was something more like it's portrayed in Spiral (Engrenages) from the telly (BBC). I'd love to see what would happen if a case like this landed on Judge Roban's desk. All this litigation definitely waxes vexatious.

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Ya gotta love diplomatic legalese!

"they consume considerable amounts of the court's time and energy, which takes time way from other parties who also require and are entitled to the court's attention."

Translation: "Fuck off and stop wasting my time!"

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Jobs legacy

These law suits are Steve Jobs legacy. He was quoted saying "I don't care about the money, I have money, I want them to stop copying Apple". He was referring to the litigation and monetary awards.

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Apple is litigating just for the money. They have to, because the law says they must do everything they can to protect the interests of their shareholders. So they don't have a choice.

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"So they don't have a choice."

I think you misunderstand protecting the shareholders.

If you are damaging the public image (which Apple so heavily relies on), then you are lowering the brands value ergo, potentially lowering the share value.

Many high profile companies, such as Apple, Mercedes, Rolex, Gucci all rely on brand image, far more than there actual products.

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Re: Jobs legacy

He was a man of contradictions.

On the one hand he says the wants them to stop copying Apple. On the other he says "Good artists copy, great artists steal. And we [Apple] have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

A hypocrite.

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Apple is not interested in the money, they want Samsung to stop using 'their stuff'.

Last year jury agreed it was 'their stuff' and Samsung was using it, and they shouldn't be.

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Litigation is required to increase shareholder value? hahahahaha

How about producing quality products at a reasonable price?

Oh that isn't in their game plan.

Produce inexpensive products and sell for 3 times the cost of manufacture.

Apple's ethics are in no danger of being questioned, with child sacrifices and all.

Apple is worse than Microsoft ever was.

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Next week... Apple sues Samsung for being on the planet Earth.

Stop it Apple, you look like assholes. You generally a have the best tablet in the world... I like my iPad-1. But this BS makes me not want to get another Apple product. I already only stick with Android phones... I don't care for the Apple UI for a phone.

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C r A p p l e

App - Crap - iCrap

Apple - Crapple

Sick to the iBalls of crApple's mediochre, vastly overhyped, vastly overpriced consumer goods, copying, legalising rivals, believing in themselves (or faking it to take in their oh-so-gullible fan-babies). Technology for people too stupid for technology, too gullible to understand that a eff-ing computer is just an eff-ing computer, and putting shiny lipstick on it adds nothing to its quality (*).

(More than happy to take down-votes from Appey-clappies on this one, because they're worth it).

The only thing that makes me hope that Apple will survive for quite some while is their entertainment value. I get even more pleasure sniggering at 'Special Needs' Apple users than I used to get sniggering at shell-suit fashionistas. The funniest thing of all (in both cases) is the way they thought / think they're cool, whereas their main purpose is actually to entertain the thinking people on an otherwise boring train journey or Friday.

Speaking of which, Friday looms, beckons, flirts just a litle provocatively...

(*) A bit like Paris, whose quality is beyond addition.

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Re: C r A p p l e

"mediochre" – do you mean an even paler brownish-yellow color than ochre?

Oh, and by the way, the rabidity of your excoriation of anything Apple makes you appear not only dotty, but also somewhat morbidly obsessed.

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Re: C r A p p l e

Enough with all the polite self restraint, tell us what you really think :)

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Re: C r A p p l e

Anyone who seriously says CrApple must surely be about 12...? How about Samsunk? Grow up.

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