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HP is to follow its Windows 8-based tablet keyboard combo, the Envy x2, with an Android Jelly Bean version - the computer giant’s take on Asus’ popular Transformer series. Set to ship in August - in the US at least; the UK release is less certain - the SlateBook x2 will be built around a 10.1-inch, 1920 x 1200 IPS LCD screen …

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and what are you supposed to do with the keyboard once you've unplugged it

are you going to carry it around with you? then you're better off buying a laptop

are you going to leave it at home? buy an iPad instead

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Re: and what are you supposed to do with the keyboard once you've unplugged it

Or take it out as a tablet and then use it like a laptop when you get back home?

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Re: and what are you supposed to do with the keyboard once you've unplugged it

are you going to carry it around with you? then you're better off buying a laptop

are you going to leave it at home? buy an iPad instead

What kind of ridiculous comment is that? The answer is very simply. If you don't need it, leave it at home. If you do, take it. If you're not sure, take it (it's not that much heavier) and then you've got either tablet or laptop, whichever is most convenient.

If Android isn't up to the lap-toppy stuff you need, then get the full Windows 8 one - which is heavier and more expensive but does more.

Or if you only ever need tablet or laptop, just get that.

Fail indeed! What is it with people who seem to be too thick to get it through their skulls that other people have different requirements to them? Aaaarrggghhh!

I need beer to wash away this pet peeve. It's 5:10 on Friday, and soon I shall satisfy that requirement.

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Re: and what are you supposed to do with the keyboard once you've unplugged it

So, you didn't see how popular the Asus transformer series were then, did you? I have one and yes, I carry the keyboard around with me. Not only does it add extra benefits, (extra ports, extended battery life, real keyboard to type with. all the perks of a real laptop AND all the perks of a tablet too etc etc etc) but it also protects the screen when you put it away in your bag. oh sorry, I guess you're another fanboi. nothing will be good enough for you unless it has a half eaten bit of fruit on the back.

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Re: and what are you supposed to do with the keyboard once you've unplugged it

@Tim

Use it as a back scratcher

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Subtle my ass

Nothing subtle about having to fork out an extra £80 or more. >:(

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Re: Subtle my ass

but, but, but...

US prices listed very rarely include sales tax. UK prices very rarely _don't_ include sales tax (VAT). At 20% VAT, £319 would become around £380, so only £20 more not £80 more. And since the UK pricing is all (reasonable) guesswork by the reporter, it seems pointless getting worked up about it now.

sigh.

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Re: but, but, but...

sales tax =/= VAT

For one thing, it is an explicit tax that the consumer sees up front whereas the VAT is hidden and can jacked to hell and back but the socialists get to blame corporations for price gouging.

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Nice resolution.....

But why can't we get the same screen on the windows version?

My mind boggles at why a major computer manufacturer can see the need for high vertical resolution on Android devices but cannot go the one logical step further and realize that Windows devices could benefit from this too. The windows version has a poor 1366 x 768. This is lower than my 4 year old laptop!

Apparently the PC market is in the crapper, this is why.

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Re: Nice resolution.....

I'd imagine it's because they're building down to a cost. You've got to pay MS for Windows of course, and then you've got to have an Atom and motherboard, as opposed to an ARM SOC on the 'Droid one.

So going for a nicer panel will cost more, but also might mean needing a beefier graphics card/chip. You can get Win 8 tablets/convertibles with nicer displays, but they're going to have Core chips, rather than atoms, and cost more.

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Re: Nice resolution.....

HP suffer from Hydra Syndrome. Many heads doing many things with no co-ordination between them. Windows development was the exclusive domain of PSG, who dominated other divisions and insisted on things being done Their Way. While in theory all non-enterprise products have now been brought under the unified PPSG, it's still scattered and spread across the world with no unified product direction. It's one of the things they really need to change if they want to stay relevant in the consumer electronics market.

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Re: Nice resolution.....

If it really does come with a 1920x1200 display then it qualifies as HP's highest spec laptop, since they seem to have abandoned this resolution (AKA 2003 spec laptop screen) for the laughablely named FullHD spec. When I needed to replace my laptop last year I had to hunt down a refurbed unit because the main thing that pays my living is a pain in the a*&^ on a screen with only 1080 lines, Unix screens standardised on 1024 lines in about 1988 (eek that's 25 years ago) and so if you're going to run these things in a window you need enough space around that for the usual decorations and it just doesn't work at 1080lines. Of course by about the early 90s screens had hit 1200 lines, but expecting to be able to put these inside a window just leads to disappointment.

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Re: Nice resolution.....

I have had a hp mobile desktop workstation (17" 1920x1200) - 87xx within the last few years.

As far as I know you can still get them (Certified to run Linux / Solaris / Windows - Quadro etc etc). Mine had 8GB of ram.

Cannot imagine they don't sell them now.

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Now we might have a comparison

Between an Android version and a "Surface" version. Hopefully the former won't have a paid up Microsoft License, and then we will know the "Real Microsoft Tax" value for such an item.

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Re: Now we might have a comparison

Different chips, different motherboards, different configuration. It'll be the battery and case that's similar. Unless you're talking about Windows RT which runs on ARM.

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Re: Now we might have a comparison

Do you mean the difference between the Microsoft Windows Tax and the Microsoft Android tax ?

They get paid whichever way they roll.

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Re: Now we might have a comparison

Really? Does HP pay MS for each android device?

Are you sure about that?

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What's the weight?

The 13" sounds great to me assuming it can pump higher resolution via HDMI/DisplayPort. Notebook ergonomics are bad enough but unbearable on small screens. Roll on Android notebooks.

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Why no hdmi on the tablet section?

From memory, the transformer has the HDMI output on the screen so that you can connect it up to a larger display without having to carry the keyboard if you don't want to. Not a major problem, but could have been more convenient.

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Bah

I'll stick with the laptop thank you. 2GB Ram, seriously?, given the price that is extremely disappointing (almost as disappointing as the price of the Surface pro).

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