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Microsoft's ongoing efforts to top Google have seen it approach the final frontier, with a new service that translates written text from various terrestrial languages into the fictional language of Star Trek's Klingon race. The translator service will also be available from Bing's Windows Phone app. The introduction of the …

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So...

What's "Dear Aunt" in Klingon then?

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Re: So...

So, pandering to a niche audience of 0.000000000098 of the worlds population will bring immense rewards...

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So, pandering to a niche audience of 0.000000000098 of the worlds population will bring immense rewards...

At least it brings publicity in the tech community. I guess that point has just been proven.

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Re: So...

Interesting, given that there are about 7 bllion people on this rock, then you do realize that 0.000000000098 of 7 billion is less than one person, 0.686 people in fact, but there must be at least 4 people who would like this (Leonard, Sheldon, Raj and Howard).

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You do realise that Leonard, Sheldon, Raj and Howard are not actually people?

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You do realise that Leonard, Sheldon, Raj and Howard are not actually people?

Well they're not antelopes, they have 2 arms & legs, 1 head and all the other bits. Now you might be supposing I am referring to some fictional characters perhaps in some American sit-com and I might, but I assure you there are some real people with those names so there again I might not. Leonard Nimoy for one might have some exposure to Klingon and I'm led to believe he's a real person (or at least as real as anybody in Hollywood)

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And how many people will use that?

Guess put the number of fluent klingon speaks to aroun 100 in the whole world, do 80% of them work at MS or something?

What a waste of time and money

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Re: And how many people will use that?

You're forgetting the millions of those on the Klingon home world who have it as their first language.

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Re: And how many people will use that?

Then Microsoft really should not do this. Next thing ya know Microsft will put out a Klingon language version of Windows which will undoubtedly cause an interplanetary war.

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Re: WTF is Bing?

Your comment would have been funnier if it hadn't come from a penguin troll.

Nevertheless TU

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Re: WTF is Bing?

When you click on 'get map' on a lot of sites its the word in the bottom right of the grey area where you would expect a map to be.

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Re: WTF is Bing?

According to Google (define:bing):

'bing

/biNG/

Exclamation

Indicating a sudden action or event: "Bing! They've hit you with something".'

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Re: WTF is Bing?

Eadon - Watch the remake of Hawaii Five-0. I don't know how much they're paying, but M$ are getting an awful lot of product placement for their money....

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Re: WTF is Bing?

Oh come on people!

Act like he's serious and give a straight answer.

"Bing is what MS renamed the search that they bought to replace Live, because Live kept dying."

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How about they throw some help to many of the endangered languages out there. North America has many of them and that's just a start. I'm sure Hawaiian, Navajo, Arapaho etc would all welcome the assistance. Plus the resources would be actually used rather than briefly screwed around with for a joke then forgotten.

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Oh, come on.

Think about it before you jerk your knee so hard that it snaps.

What was this about? Nerds working at Redmond? I don't think there's any question of that.

Serious attempt to provide a service on paid time? Unlikely.

Proof-of-concept for transliteration engine in a language where you can't offend any native speakers with dodgy translations and/or nerdly hobbyists working unpaid overtime? Highly likely.

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Re: Oh, come on.

Or you could just do something useful. Either way.

Using a genuine language would provide more chance for actually testing it properly, especially given the significantly greater library of works to source it from. If they wanted to offer a service they would find many native speakers would happily assist, just like we already do with google translate.

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Re: Oh, come on.

"Proof-of-concept for transliteration engine in a language..."

Proof that you can put any old tosh in a Bing result, and no body will know if it's right or not, nor care...

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Or you could just do something useful. Either way.

Or you could do something useful, like all that stuff you just said.

Maybe start with Cornish.

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Re: Oh, come on.

I do, hence I know about working with google translate to get additional languages working :-)

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Re: Oh, come on.

If you worked in IT, you'd know that about 60% of what we do is cover up so the boss thinks we're being productive. Like learning to sleep with your eyes open. And nodding and saying "Yes" every time they pause in whatever little speech they're making at the time. I for one applaud the softie that was goofing off, got caught out and parlayed the goof into a production project. This guy or girl is a true child of Wally.

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Re: @Rampant Spaniel - Endangered Languages

""How about they throw some help to many of the endangered languages"

You mean like .NET?"

30 years in the biz and 'nix still aint makin no money bitch.

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@Kyza

Start with Cornish/French translation. When one says 'pasty' the other thinks of soemthing totally different!

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Re: @Rampant Spaniel - Endangered Languages

"You mean like .NET?"

I'm not saying I didn't find the comment vaguely amusing, however I must point out that .NET is not a language.

If you had said:

"You mean like C#?"

I would have disagreed, but I wouldn't have felt the need to correct you.

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Well that has just put Nokia back in the running for my phone upgrade next month :)

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It doesn't support Welsh!

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Maybe they only want to support one pointless language?

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But I thought Klingon WAS Welsh?

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"But I thought Klingon WAS Welsh?"

Nah, Welsh has less vowels.

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Ignorance isn't funny

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Klingons sing better, too.

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Re: 0/10 @ GitMeMyShootinIrons

less ≠ fewer

Nevertheless, point taken.

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Dujeychugh jagh nIv yItuHQo

I used Bing to translate the sub-heading 'Dujeychugh jagh nIv yItuHQo' to english and got:

If the value of yituhxo, the enemy dujey

I think something may have been lost in the translation because I don't think that will have Google quaking any time soon!

Paris? Maybe she gets it, because I don't.

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Re: If the value of yituhxo, the enemy dujey

Isn't that part of the Windows Source Code?

It might explain why nobody can rewrite it...

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Re: Dujeychugh jagh nIv yItuHQo

Yes I got that too, and it's auto-detect of Klingon doesn't work either, it usually thinks it is either Hungarian or French.

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After translating into Klingon

you can paste it here.

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Hindu-Arabic?

Traditionally “Hindu-Arabic” is used to describe our numbering system (counting in 10s, using the digits 0 - 9), which was adapted from the Arabic world, in turn adapted from India.

Unless the service translates everything to a numeric code (possibly unicode?), perhaps “Roman” characters, which is used to describe the alphabet we English-speaking mortals generally use, is meant.

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Re: Hindu-Arabic?

Haha, I was going to mention this. Use your brain Simon, last time I checked, Arabic and Hindi both had their own scripts which look nothing like our alphabet.

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Re: Hindu-Arabic? @ Murph

Nor each other!

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I'd rather have a Klingon Clippit. "It look like you're declaring war on a neighbouring star system. Would you like help?".

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It look like you're declaring war on a neighbouring star system. Would you like help?

"It look like you're declaring war on a neighbouring star system. Would you like help?"

"yes"

"THEN YOU ARE WEAK AND DESERVE TO DIE."

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Not Translation, but search

On the other hand, Klingon has been supported in Google's search engine for years. I'm sure they've supported it since 2007 or earlier.

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-klingon

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Good Old Microsoft

I've successfully used Google translate to migrate legacy domains to new active directory domains on Hotels in China remotely. Multiple times.

Neither side could speak the other sides language.

It worked well.

I don't understand the need for companies to try to do the same as their competitors when they can't do the job better. Maybe if there was a financial reason for people to use a Microsoft product like this then they may have a case.

But Google is free and Microsoft will never make a product as good as Google are giving away. If they did then Microsoft would probably price themselves out of the market.

I understand that the whole Klingon thing is probably a pet project of some engineers, which is fun, but in general it just more wasted time.

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Good Old Microsoft

Sure enough, Bing Translate FAILS, yet Google search succeeds - though they're pushing the Windows translation software Babylon 10.

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Wot no voice file?

It's amusing but really needs a voice file for full entertainment value.

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