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Boffinry nerve-centre CERN has attempted to recreate the very first website to mark 20 years since the official launch of the World Wide Web. It is feared the first ever web page is lost to the sands of time as it was changed daily and any backups are few and far between. However the team has pulled up a snapshot of the very …

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First Website Ever?

The first website ever? No Flash, right?

Those were the days!

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wonder how long it took before porn made it to the web

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According to wikipedia

the first picture on the web was les but maybe I've missed something in translation

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wonder how long it took before porn made it to the web

Virtually no time at all ... by chance I found out about the web very early back in the days when NCSA still maintained a "what's new this month" page and one of the CS dept at Dutch Universities advertised that it had a site and either on the what's new page ... or more likely on their home page they proudly announced that they had the largest collection of porn on the web!

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Re: First Website Ever?

"The first website ever? No Flash, right?"

Flashing tags came along shortly after though. I think it was some mid 90s web designer unwritten rule that every bloody page had to have at least half a dozen of the damn things blinking away tring to get the user to have a seizure. Those were most definately NOT the days.

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I STILL blame the dancing hamsters for ruining it all!

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That would have been the second page on the Internet!

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"wonder how long it took before porn made it to the web"

If you count usenet URLs, it was only 5 clicks away right at the beginning:

First website->What's out there->by Type->Network News->alt->alt.sex.pictures

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Probably April 30th 1993.

But it took until May 9th 1993 to finally make out the first nipple...

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I've just upvoted this post as quite accurate - then I discovered it was by Eadon! Oh, the shame of it...

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Re: Under Construction.

No, most people vote you down because usually you're being a dick.

Here, you seem to be quite normal; hence people treat you normally.

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Wait...

That can't be the internet. There's no sign of any porn anywhere...

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that was not the internet, but the web, so no porn. The internet was full of porn even then, you just had to download multiple files from newgroups and stitch them together - only photos though, no video.

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Re: Wait...

Yes, and all women in online porn were named Gif

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Re: Wait...

Porn didn't appear until several minutes later. It was a slower-paced world in those days.

No, I'm pretty sure that to be authentic, the very *first* web page would have to be a list of reasons why Picard is better than Kirk.

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The internet was full of porn even then, you just had to download multiple files from newgroups and stitch them together

Plenty was available via FTP, too. And no doubt Gopher, and probably other Internet protocols. And gateways to BBSes, from which it could also be downloaded directly using XModem and its successors, Kermit, uucp, etc. Probably someone was serving porn via IND$FILE.

only photos though, no video.

Porn video was also available online pre-WWW (though perhaps not on Usenet binary groups, as even low-res compressed video would have been terribly large for many links of the day when uuencoded). Danged if I can remember a specific reference (it was something I was only tangentially aware of, when the occasional acquaintance felt the need to demonstrate some discovery), but I have a clear recollection of horrible, grainy, audio-free, VGA-resolution video (about as bad as VCD, but VCD apparently only appeared in 1993) of unattractive people engaged in what appeared to be stunningly unrewarding exertions, while employed at a location I left in late 1991.

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Surely this is all recorded

on the Wayback machine?

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Re: Surely this is all recorded

I don't see how, the wayback machine started in 2002

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Re: Surely this is all recorded

If that were true, then the Wayback machine would itself be the first website in existence, no?

Remember, a time machine cannot travel back before the time it was created and all that...

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Re: Surely this is all recorded

"Remember, a time machine cannot travel back before the time it was created and all that..."

Damn - is this thing still under warranty?

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And there was me thinking that the "I'll get my coat" was going to be enough of a clue...

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The wayback machine contains content from late 1996:

http://web.archive.org/web/19961111191520/http://ncsa.org/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961114070121/http://www.rte.ie/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961115125255/http://www.cern.ch/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961218223009/http://www.nyt.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961221155400/http://www.latimes.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961221203254/http://www0.bbc.co.uk/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961223185720/http://www.times.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961222060658/http://www.guardian.co.uk/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961224082642/http://www.irish-times.ie/

They're just some websites that I figured might be in the archive, listed in the order that they first appeared - I really didn't expect to see RTE pop up there so early, but maybe I shouldn't be that surprised - there was an underground "RTE to Everywhere" project distributing audio files of RTE news broadcasts on the web as early as March 1994!

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Yes the wayback machine has a lot to answer for. In 1996 I was creating and selling web sites and wayback has copies of them. They were dreadful. I'm posting as anon so you can't find them and laugh at me.

The good news is that I was able to keep selling those customers upgrades for the following 17 years.

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It loaded instantly with no ads or bloatware. No animated smiley faces, pop-ups or things telling me I am an instant winner.

Sometimes I wonder if "progress", really is.

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"It loaded instantly with no ads or bloatware. No animated smiley faces, pop-ups or things telling me I am an instant winner."

And it works fine and fast on my mobile (feature) phone!

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Actually there are still sites like that. For example one of Germany's largest blogs https://blog.fefe.de/

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Sometimes I wonder if "progress", really is.

Sometimes I get irritated when people get all wistful about the "good old days"...

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Irritation isn't what it used to be...

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Angel

"Irritation isn't what it used to be..."

**SPLURT**

Damn! Now THAT was funny!

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I miss the good old days, when I used to get irritated by people getting wistful about the good old days.

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telnet

You can't telnet into the server now though... Also, there are newsletters dating back to January 1992, which is over 20 year ago in my book.

Still, takes you back.

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Oh good grief - I'll try to pitch this at a Sun reader level of comprehension,er, words:

Telnet lives on the Internet, the World Wide Web lives on the internet, eMail lives on the Internet, loads of stuff some good some bad live on the Internet.

This is about the birth of The World Wide Web which was most certainly only 20 years ago. The Internet which hosts it however is a bit older.

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Patronising much?

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I'm perfectly aware of what Telnet is. Otherwise I wouldn't have a client already installed (and used every now and again) on my machine to try it, would I?

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Paris Hilton

I've just been peeling onions, dammit

"select this option with the mouse"

"select an option with a number and press RETURN"

Awwww, cute. *sniff*

Look, Paris is wiping away a tear too.

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That's not a tear.

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IT could be a tear from "The bald one-eyed man"

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Missed opportunity

So, they create the first webpage in the history of humanity and the content is not "<blink>First</blink>"?

Idiots

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I bet it really said

"Hello World"

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Hello World Wide Web

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There is no sector of society that has not been transformed by the invention [...] of the web

He's never been to rural [a], has he? a = whichever region pleases you.

(P.S. First I wanted to write Ireland but figured that may leave dwellers of other rural areas feeling shrugged off. Yorkshire or Highlands spring to mind. Or, hell!, have you been to some rural, mountainous areas in Switzerland? And, for the sake of insulting although I've never been there: not to mention rural Mexico!)

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I hope my reply gets to you as I write from within Ireland.

Go speckled Jim..... fly.....

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Speckled Jim arrived here, in another rural area ;-)

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You think Yorkshire is rural any more?

You're from London, aren't you?

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Yes, very tasty.

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Surely this is not the web.

There's no "...WEIRD TRICK..." adverts. Therefore it is not the interwebz.

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I went to on a visit to CERN last summer while in Geneva...

...And saw firstly the cinematic show introducing the work that goes on at CERN and then the museum across the road. Strangely the 'world's first web server' appeared to be in both buildings under exactly that label - they'd sneakily put the actual NeXt cube on display in the cinema building and the rest of it (monitor/keyboard/mouse) was in a glass case in the museum!

I'll let them off though, I wouldn't have found the place without the Web

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Bullshit...it was ASCII porn

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