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Stop anyone on the street and ask them for a definition of the term ‘Ultrabook’ and I suspect they will look at you with utter incomprehension. Hardly surprising, since Intel’s effort to create a popular brand for thin’n’light notebooks hasn’t really been a roaring success. To me, the Ultrabook is the logical evolution of the …

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> The new Ford Fiesta is more economical, more spacious, more comfortable and better equipped than previous models, but that doesn’t make it an ultrahatchback.

It does if you price it at £20K. For that money I would want "ultra" performance and comfort. Or more likely decide I'd prefer the perfectly good older Fiesta at £10K.

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Fiesta?

But then the Fiesta has gotten a bit bloated - the latest model is mk1 Focus sized, the Ka could be thought of as a spiritual Fiesta (though the mk2 doesn't seem to be a huge seller).

Ultrabooks would be the size of desktop computers if they followed the car analogy, and people who once bought family desktops would now be buying sports utility minicomputers with bullbars for their offspring to do their homework on.

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Are there?

Are there still people who buy into this 'ultra book' fantasy?

Or have they been drugged?

I thought they were wiseing up to this myth.

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The true parent of the Ultrabook

Are the MacBooks, especially the Air.

And you can run Windows 7 on all of them using parallels or boot camp.

Granted it can't run Win 8 yet, but who wants that anyway?

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Re: Are there?

Hi AC, I own a Sony VAIO which I use for Uni as a postgrad MBA student. It runs win 8, has a touchscreen, full enterprise ms office courtesy of a work deal - £15). Start menu replace men installed with no fuss.

The machine fits in a document folder, battery lasts about 7 hours and it starts up in under 10 seconds. the cost was £600.

its not my daily machine but it is bloody good at what it does. So yes, I bought into the ultra book fantasy and I am glad I did.

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"The new Ford Fiesta is more economical, more spacious" etc.

Which is about as far as the analogy goes. The new Ford Fiesta comes with a round steering wheel, not a square one. The steering wheel is mounted in front of the driver, not attached to the parcel shelf. You do not have to prod the bottom left corner of the windshield to make the instruments appear and you don't have to go to Halfords for an accessory package to change everything back to how the old Fiesta was made

Any of these laptops would be a delight with an operating system UI that wasn't the result of an intellectually challenged marketing droids wet dream.

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Re: The true parent of the Ultrabook

You can run Win8 con 'em now, thanks to the 10.8.3 update. But why would I want to inflict Win8 unto my MBP? I actually switched to Mac *because* of Win8!!!!!

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@tabman

its not my daily machine but it is bloody good at what it does. So yes, I bought into the ultra book fantasy and I am glad I did.

Good for you. For the rest of us - we are not students and have to work for our money, so no, we prefer something mundane with a good price/performance ratio to get the maximum use out of our bucks.

Ultra books unfortunately suck on that scale.

<- Paris - she doesn't come cheap either...

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Sexy and Windows 8

Sorry, not compatible....

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Beware the Yoga...

The Lenovo Yoga is a brilliant device but it's unusable due to a really crappy WiFi adapter/installation. A Google search of "Lenovo Yoga WiFi problems" will tell you all you need to know.

Oh, and the fan never stops.

Took mine back.

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Re: Beware the Yoga...

Errr, yeah.....am calling Aberdeen Angus excrement on that post. You could not afford one in the first place.....

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Re: Beware the Yoga...

Oh yes, sorry. I didn't buy one, I didn't find it unusable and I didn't return it.

Oops!

Thanks for putting me right, you anonymous seer you.

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Re: Beware the Yoga...

Doesn't surprise me, the Thinkpad line has gone downhill since IBM got rid of their PC manufacture branch.

I'm on my 3rd T410 thanks to fan issues.

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Got the s200 and its perfect for the money. Yes the screen isn't the best and fan is louder than i'd like, but considering its half the price of the others and still very capable, value alone makes it the best machine.

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I've got one and it's great, flashing the BIOS to the latest version quietens the fan significantly.

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had a 5 min play with an s200 on display at PCW and it made me think that with a touchscreen win8 may almost start to make sense. That said ... just bought a laptop for my son and was very pleased to find someone still selling win7 ones.

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"with a touchscreen win8 may almost start to make sense"

Yes, until you need to use some traditional specialist desktop software (the main reason for considering Windows really) and the fscking thing keeps jumping to the Metro screen or store for no obvious reason :(

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Really? Excellent, i think i'll get on to that now. I also slapped in a SSD which is nice.

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I might have to revist the S200

I tried oen in PCW and liked it but was put off by the low hardware spec as I will be wanting to process photos on it ( though it did cross my mind that my present travel laptop is 6-7 year old technology and so probably much slower).

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Re: "with a touchscreen win8 may almost start to make sense"

Really? Just install a start menu replacement or is that to hard?

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S200E not an utlrabook

The S200E isn't an ultrabook, it has a shiny metal keyboard deck, it's thin and light with a good battery life, but it leaves out the most important feature that Intel requires for it to be called an ultrabook - being hideously overpriced. I have an S200E and it does everything I want of a small laptop, I wouldn't buy some of the grand plus machines even if you gave me the money.

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Re: I might have to revist the S200

Don't by the model sold by PCW, it's only got the lowly pentium processor, you can pick up one with an i3 for only a few quid more elsewhere.

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Wrong title...

Why didnt you call it '10 MacBook Air rip off / copies' Would be great to see some truth in Journalism.

Fail because you need to invent things - not just copy apple.

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Re: Wrong title...

I think you'd be very hard pressed to describe the hybrids as macbook air copies, since they do stuff that the macbook air doesn't.

If I had the cash handy, I'd jump at a dell xps, and I say that as a macbook pro and ipad owner.

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Re: Wrong title...

never realized that the macbook air had a screen that either rotated in its bezel or bent back on itself ... if you've got a macbook air then could I borrow it and check that the screen does bend in these ways!

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Re: Wrong title...

It couldn't possibly be because your opinion is wrong, could it?

And for the record Eadon, any time I see your posts I vote them up because your incessant trolling has reached a new plane of trolling that only David Thorne has surpassed.

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Re: Wrong title...

By that logic you might as well claim a machine that copies the MBA design but is running Windows or Linux isn't a copy since they do things the OSX doesn't.

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Re: Wrong title...

Sorry Eadon, check your facts. Microsoft were there first with the SPOT Watch.

EADON COMMENT BADLY RESEARCHED FAIL

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Re: Wrong title...

@Eadon:

Xerox STAR -> MAC OS

Diamond RIO -> iPod

MS' tablets -> iPAD

Sony Viao (ultrathin) -> Mac Book air

Don't mistake Apple (or many other IT companies) for originators of ideas, they're much like Edison, existing products polished and tidied up and sold on, not much real innovation.

Anyway, who cares? Competition in a market for similar products is a good thing. I don't want to have only one OS or one laptop of a particular approximate design.

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Re: Wrong title...

MS' tablets weren't based on the Newton. The Newton was a PDA (I owned one) whereas MS' tablets always ran a full version of the desktop OS. There were no capacitive touchscreens at the time, so stylus was your option and actually it is a pretty good option, especially in conjunction with finger-touch as you have these days.

I'd accept that you think it's a gray area, if it weren't for your rabid posting of anti-MS bile and the fact that you then continue to do the same thing: Sony didn't invent the home console, Google didn't invent the web search, how is it ok for them to market these products and not incur your wrath? This is lame clutching at straws to accuse a company you hate of doing something which you seem to disprove of, despite the fact that you say you approve of it. You are rambling and inconsistent, your blinding hatred of MS makes you capable of some pretty impressive double-think, but it doesn't help your arguments.

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@ Eadon Re: Wrong title...

Ok I bite on this one

Xerox Star -> Original Mac -> Windows 3.1.

X-Windows -> Mac OSX -> Vista/Aero.

Rio MP3 Player -> Creative DAT -> iPod -> Zune

Decades of Sci Fi -> MS Windows Tablets -> iPad -> Surface.

SE 800 -> SE 900 -> SE910 .... -> iPhone -> Windows Phone 7/8. (assuming you mean a tile or user friendly interface, as the iPhone was a huge step backwards hardware wise for the Europeana dn Far-Eastern markets)

Apple copying everyone else .......... Steve Jobb's real skill (aside from anoying the crap out of most people who worked with/for him) as marketting and trend analysis. Successfuly Apple products have never been original in idea, it was Steve spotting when the market aws finally ready.

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Re: Wrong title...

+1 up voted as you refrained from using your caps lock key and you responded with a reasonable argument (I might not agree with it but your point was, for once,nicely put)

Cheers, have a beer on me.

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Re: Wrong title...

And see how successful the Spot watch was!

There is doing it first, and doing it RIGHT.

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Re: @ Eadon Wrong title...

Slightly different though:

Xerox STAR -> Original Mac -> Windows 3.1. (But they didn't get it "right" until Windows 95, UI wise.)

BSD/NeXT/BeOS/UNIX/Linux -> Mac OSX -> Vista/Aero.

RIO PMP -> iPod -> Zune.

Newton -> MS Tablets -> iPad -> Surface.

Netbooks -> Macbook Air -> Ultrabooks

(the zillion smartphones we already had) -> iPhone -> Windows Phone 7/8.

Yes, the late Jobs was an expert in copying stuff and succeeding where others had moderate success or even failed. But at least the Apple stuff has some brains in the copying instead of "copy X so Y will succeed". MS is now attempting to copy the Jobs attitude, the "my way or the highway" philosophy with Windows 8. Gross!!

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Too expensive

I'm not spending that sort of dosh for something that is 'sexy', give me performance and value and I'll think about it. MY 5 year old lenovo Y550 (cost ₤450 with about ₤100 in upgrades spent on it since) is more than adequate for my mobile needs and will continue to be so until something not easily replaced on it dies. When it does die I will not be looking at ₤1000 replacements.

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Re: Too expensive

Then you can continue to buy 4Kg 2" thick laptops that meet your needs.

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Re: Too expensive

Actually closer to 2.5 Kg, and about 1.5" thick, besides my use of my laptop is not on the move. It is invariably on the couch or at my desk, lugging the thing to work is not that big a deal as it fits snugly into my rather large briefcase anyway. Meeting my needs is what I do at the minimum expenditure, these "Ultrabooks" don't do that for me. And in answer to Eadon I wouldn't give Apple so much as a sou of my hard earned cash for their slant on overpriced kit with underwhelming performance.

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Re: Too expensive

Yes I wasn't being sarcastic... if you are happy with cheap bulky laptops then good for you but there's no need to tell the world you don't like slimline versions. I would rather spend £500 than £1500 myself but so what, both are available.

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Fiestas and marketing wonks

If you're looking for a review of the new Fiesta on [well known car review magazine site], it's listed under the "Supermini" category, which is close.

Bastard marketing wonks.

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Re: Fiestas and marketing wonks

Superminis, which are now as large / larger than C segment family hatchbacks of a couple of generations ago?

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I wanted to write a review, but I can't - I've strained my right arm trying to use a touchscreen on a non-horizontal surface.

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>I wanted to write a review, but I can't - I've strained my right arm trying to use a touchscreen on a non-horizontal surface.

Right arm strain eh? Can happen after hours on the internet.... This occurred before trying to write the review?

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Quite so.

The touch screen works well when it is rested on a lap. At arm's length, it does not.

I think HP had a 24 inch touch screen. Great if I want to wear out my arm, otherwise completely pointless.

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Re: Quite so.

I replied without lifting my elbows off the desk, to be able to lazily prod without the unpleasant long-distance prod is possible.

As is holding a mug of tea and prodding with a spare digit.

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