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A former LulzSec hacker has been jailed for a year for ransacking Sony Pictures Entertainment's computer systems. Cody Kretsinger, 25, from Decatur, Illinois - better known to his fellow LulzSec cohorts as "Recursion" - was also ordered to carry out 1,000 hours of community service, and a year of home detention, following his …

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Who's laughing now?

Me :)

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Hector Xavier "Sabu" Monsegur, was revealed in March 2012 as an FBI informer who had been grassing on his former cohorts for 10 months after his arrest in June 2011. Sabu's sentencing was delayed by 6 months in February due to his "ongoing cooperation with the government".

A grass? I bet you he's going to be somebody's bitch when he eventually goes inside "pound-me-in-the-ass-prison". Unless he's that way inclined, he won't be laughing.

If you ask me, they did it all wrong. They should've gone to Chine and lived there and done it - where the local police and politicians really don't give a shit about Hollywood - or the Japz for that matter.

It's pathetic that homegrown talent gets banged up while offshore nothing happens - they laugh in the face of America.

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It's pathetic that homegrown talent gets banged up while offshore nothing happens - they laugh in the face of America.

Talent ?????????

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Sabu's been in prison before, and he's a big guy. Also, a lot of Lulz stuff was anti-cop/prison guard. He'll be welcomed as a king.

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Re: danR2 Re: Who's laughing now?

".....He'll be welcomed as a king." More likely as their new queen.

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Re: danR2 Who's laughing now?

@Matt Bryant - "More likely as their new queen."

Sounds like you and Shagbag speak from experience.

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Re: AC Re: danR2 Who's laughing now?

"....Sounds like you and Shagbag speak from experience." No, it's called imagination and a sense of humour, both probably alien entities to yourself, along with intelligent thought and responsibility.

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"Unless he's that way inclined, he won't be laughing."

So men who are "that way inclined" just automatically enjoy being raped by other men in prison? That's one of the most bigoted things I've read in months.

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Re: AC danR2 Who's laughing now?

Matt Bryant - something touch a raw nerve? Methinks the lady, sorry queen, doth protest too much.

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"....something touch a raw nerve?...." Sorry to burst your little homophobic bubble, but no, you provide nothing more than amusement, in keeping with the rest of the Anonyputzs, Dickileaks and other self-deluding Faithful. For you to touch a nerve you would first have to have an original thought, and that would seem as likely as QPR winning this year's Premier League.

".....Methinks the lady, sorry queen, doth protest too much." Ask your mum, when the milkman or the postie's through with her. Don't interrupt her, she needs the money for your school uniform.

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Re: AC AC danR2 Who's laughing now?

@Matt Bryant - when in a hole, it's advisable to not keep digging -the more frothy mouthed you get the more people are going to ask questions. As for my mum, she's a 75 year old widow, so fair play to her if she's still getting banged by the milkman and the postie. And if she's charging it'll certainly help supplement her pension.

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".....when in a hole...." LOL! It is very obviously you and your similarly upset skiddie friends, all crying over Recursion's inevitable trip to prison, that are very obviously in a hole seeing as you cannot post anything relevant. No arguments, no justifications, just whiney posts against those that mock your "hero" for the very obvious fool he is. What, did it all get a bit too serious for you when the lulz started getting jail time?

".....the more frothy mouthed you get...." Park your ego, chum, that's me laughing at you, no frothing involved.

".... As for my mum, she's a 75 year old widow...." And she's still paying for you to get through school at that age! Hadn't you better buck up and pass first grade, you can't go on living in her basement for ever.

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Re: AC AC danR2 Who's laughing now?

Matt, ever been trolled before?

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Checks Matt's previous posts

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Clearly you have. No lesson learned though.

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"Matt, ever been trolled before?......" And, as expected, unable to present an argument you fall back on the "it was only a joke, just for lulz, etc" fail. But I expected that from the first post you made as AC - when "trolling for the lulz" it is customary to tag up. Straight back at you, that sound is me ROFLMAO.

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Remind me

How many years did Sony execs get for hacking millions of consumer's PCs?

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That's why I won't buy Sony products again.

Sorry that I could only upvote you once.

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Sony execs are rich enough to buy politicians. The law does not apply to them.

Don't buy Sony.

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You got downvotes - apparently it's all fine and dandy to drop rootkits.

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LulzSec's mistake was in not having Sony click 'I accept' on a EULA

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Some people downvote if you speak out against whatever they happen to have a hard-on for. Be it Apple, Windows, Linux or Sony; people will just think "This was anti-My Thing" and downvote without caring about content.

Sony engaged in a mass hack of consumer PCs and faced zero censure. If their execs were given a similar punishment as Mr. Ex-Lulz here; you can be others would take note.

But the rich can buy the justice they want. Unlike you and me.

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Words

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Out of.

But you got downvoted ?? WTF ?

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No it isn't it is because the idiots in the music side did it over the heads of head office. Sony music needs culling not Sony corp.

Sony Computer Entertainment is totally different to the home of Simon Cowell, it is actually respected for a start.

Perhaps people are fed up of people having a go at SCE? (? = A E or J), for the crimes of BMG and Columbia. This is where greed beat the traditional quality thing.

BTW I have no BMG music. Yet I have Naughty Dog products.

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>You got downvotes - apparently it's all fine and dandy to drop rootkits.

Maybe Sony have a (very small) botnet?

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Re: Remind me punishments

Sony engaged in a mass hack of consumer PCs and faced zero censure. If their execs were given a similar punishment as Mr. Ex-Lulz here; you can be others would take note.

As long as it is BMG staff go ahead, do what you want, just leave the rest alone, most people actually like Kaz and co.

BTW lets blame Simon Cowell, he will do.

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It is not respected it treats its customers with utter contempt like the rest of Sony. (See OtherOS etc etc)

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You can map the exact moment when things turned and Sony started to lose its way and it was with the purchase of CBS records in 1988. Media studios make shitty hardware because they care more about protecting their own business models than giving the customers what they want (see Sony for last decade). This is why we say iPod and iPhone today instead of iWalkman and whatever Sony would have called their phone.

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Want to explain your rationale?

I'm guessing you are talking about " First 4 Internet" from a decade ago, so tell us how that directly translates into " Sony execs get for hacking millions of consumer's PCs"

More so that it was only ever on 10,000 CD's the vast majority of which were recalled. So your millions of consumer PC's is at best a couple of hundred, and even then nobody actually got hacked off the back of it...

Isn't it great how idiots believe any old internet myth if it suits their agenda.

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Sony Corp failed to act. No apology was given, no compensation paid, no execs fired, no execs prosecuted. Through their inaction, Sony Corp made themselves culpable. We've had "willful negligence" to that I add "willful inaction".

NEVER buy Sony.

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>no execs fired

Not revive a zombie thread but the only thing Sony did right in that whole fiasco was to shitcan their CIO over the whole deal. I mean corporate America always needs one patsy to blame everything on to avoid liability.

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$600,000?

May as well say eleventytrillion bars of gold. It's about as likely to get paid.

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Agreed. The shittiest part is that his paycheck will be garnished until the fine is paid. Court ordered fines are deducted from your paycheck by your employer before you even get the check. You still have to pay taxes on it too... Fines can't be taken from 'social benefits' though so our wonderful legal system has created another person who has no reason to work and to live off 'the dole' forever.

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our wonderful legal system has created another person who has no reason to work and to live off 'the dole' forever

The key point you're missing there is that the gentleman in question has no incentive to do any legitimate work.

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He's just a kid and I doubt he planned on basically being forced to be a career criminal. Plus he got caught so his prospects as a criminal aren't too bright.

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> Plus he got caught so his prospects as a criminal aren't too bright.

Funny how those two always seem to go together...

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No are his job prospects. I wonder what interest the court placed on the US$600,000? Chap is going to a slave to Sony for life now.

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"his paycheck will be garnished"

What with? A sprig of thyme?

If you can't do the thyme, don't do the crhyme!

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They did not realise they would upset a load of gamers

We have no sympathy when we remember 2011, I couldn't play with my friends, we couldn't post on PS verified forums.

That was a right pain, luckily I had just bought a cheap game in Tesco with a long SP component.

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Home detention?

Admittedly I'm not sure what this is, but if it is just a curfew, compared to time in jail would that really upset a computer geek? He can still get Pizza delivered, right? Or is there some kind of "thou shalt not use any electronic device/the internet" provision

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Yeah but...

Of all the thousands of people that took part in in it all, you can count the people who have been convicted with two hands and still have fingers to spare.

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Lulz

Who's laughing now bitch!

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So when do we get to see the first company fined (for whatever reason) with a billion billion dollars? If individuals can be fined with amounts several orders of magnitude higher than they're ever likely earn, why can't be companies? Are the fuckers exempt or what?

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The companies are "too big to fail" and cannot be tried under criminal law. As we all know money laundering for drug cartels is a fine only verdict. Something among the lines.

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Lulz

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One company gets hacked, 1 year for cooperating.

You hack 100.000s of people: a fine.

Nice to be part of sony.

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IMO opinion this guy is getting off way too easy for hacking. Five years in prison plus treble damages plus all cost of prosecution and incarceration, would be appropriate.

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Yet, you are completely content that it was bloody trivial what they did and no one gives a damn. A few PR stuns by Sony and the like and magically everything is better?

5 years for what? Demonstrating that people collectivity don't know shit about tech or security? I wasn't a big LolSec fan, but that fact that people are so willing to target "script kiddies" is more sad in my mind. Glad corporate BS can be bought with a couple of cheap PR words.

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Sony owe *us* $1bn, let's see their money first (was Re: This is a bad decision)

No Sony employees have gone to prison or paid any fines for busting a few hundred thousand machines with their rootkit. That fine amounts to about $2500/hr in clean up costs. Allowing about 4 hours labour to repair each PC that Sony broke (that's a very low-ball estimate) that would equate to $10K per machine that Sony owes it's customers for fixing the damage done by their rootkit. IIRC that rootkit infected an awful lot of machines, but let's be kind to Sony here and say it was a mere 100,000 machines they fekked. By this judgement's arithmetic Sony owe at least $1bn to the poor suckers who bought Alicia Key's CDs.

That isn't even taking into account that the damage done to some of those PCs would have cost people lost business too... So that $1bn figure is a *very* low ball estimate, it could easily be 10 times that in practice.

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Re: This is a bad decision @BornToWin

It seems your opinion is out of step with most people here.

I have no sympathy with Sony. $600k is an amount their corporates could easily spend in white powder a year, so they lost nothing. They would have done better holding up their hands, doing the coporate equivalent of a wry shrug and saying "Well, we got pwned! It probably serves us right for the whole rootkit thing!" Their reputation would have gone up no end. But no, they have to be vindictive, and ensure that they are about as popular as fart in a space-suit for years to come.

Silly, but that is the world these lunatic corporations have created - no-one should be surprised when people kick back, and really the kickers should be supported by the rest of us.

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Meanwhile the British LulzSec element will be sentenced to a slap on the wrist and early to bed without any cocoa, with time off for good behaviour and a guilty plea.

If, however, they had poked fun at somebody using Twitter or posted a racist joke on Facebook they'd all be off to Wakefield for 35 years. I'm not sure if the UK justice system is quaint and old fashioned, or just plain broken.

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I'd consider any justice system that uses the term 'life imprisonment' and doesn't mean it broken.

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