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In response to a New York appeals court ruling that upheld the right of media mogul Barry Diller's fledgling Aereo streaming service to continue to provide its subscribers with broadcast television content, News Corp.'s president and COO Chase Carey says he might turn Fox television into a subscription-only cable service. "If we …

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Considered it gets their advertising out to more viewers, they should be happy but instead greedy is the only emotion they feel.

Going pay cable only reduces their customer base. These guys are so thick...

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Not so sure...

Ordinarily you are absolutely correct, but fox news viewers are pretty much all 'category 5 morons' (thx bill) who go there knowing they will get what they want.

stick it behind a paywall - they'll cough up just to be told they are right and the godless commie moslem is taking the world to hell in a hand basket.

look at what glen beck did after being dropped by fox. An odious cretin by all accounts, but doing rather well out of his subscription service.

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Happy

"Going pay cable only reduces their customer base."

We can but hope....

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WTF?

I'm just surprised there are enough people willing to pay Aereo for the load of ads and crappy content that is US broadcast TV.

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*please*

*please* pull Fox, oh please....

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Re: *please*

Please Murdoch, pull, like your father should have.

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Tool

I love how his first two solutions to the problem were lawyers then politicians: ONLY when those two options failed did he resort to a business solution for his business problem.

That kind of thinking has much to do with how screwed up our legal and political systems are.

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Re: Tool

I love how his first two solutions to the problem were lawyers then politicians: ONLY when those two options failed did he resort to a business solution for his business problem.

That kind of thinking has much to do with how screwed up our business leaders are.

There. I fixed it for ya.

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Re: Tool

I am much heartened by the fact that the first two options didn't manage to do what News Corp wanted.

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Just do it Fox

Do us the favor and pull your disinformation-spreading garbage of a channel off the air.

We won't miss The Simpsons, really. The show has been getting a little too long in the nail now.

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There's a book about that: Blown to Bits

Just reading a very interesting book on the topic. Called Blown to Bits, and available as a free download, perhaps making their own point that copyright is dying the big death. The relevant part to this article is how copyright is being used to PREVENT innovation by distorting the market in favor of whoever is fastest in bribing the politicians.

Most businesspeople are fine and upstanding, etc. The problem is that the current system in America is one where the LEAST ethical businessmen bribe the CHEAPEST professional politicians to write the WORST laws. Every large American company is obliged to become more and more evil as quickly as possible just to survive.

Sun is an example of what happens to a company that tries to resist the evil, and the google and Apple are leading 'successful' examples of the need to be more evil.

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I'm aggressively conservative & I would rejoice in seeing Fox voluntarily remove itself from normal broadcast. They obfuscate real issues with social issues and take advantage of the uneducated by fooling them into thinking that Jesus, Jews, vaginas and things that come out of vaginas are somehow government concerns.

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That's called confirmation bias. There's a risk that the programming on a network that shares a brand with a deeply conservative news channel might become less easy to obtain. Of those comments that are politically motivated, which side of the spectrum are they likely to come from?

You might also benefit from looking up the contrapositive.

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I find that most close-minded people start turning things into a battle of labels instead of actually trying to defend themselves with facts.

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methinks redneck cant afford cable

boo hoo

sucker

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Happy

"methinks redneck cant afford cable"

Nah. They'll just have to cook up more crystal meth to pay for it.

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@biandewei,

It is not just liberals. And that is the problem. Both sides clearly do not see that they are closed-minded and therefore compromise becomes impossible. They become entrenched in their beliefs and attack the other side. Nobody likes to be attacked, so the result is the other side becomes more entrenched. Neither liberals nor conservatives are willing to listen, just attack. And we all lose as a result.

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Nice!

Getting rid of the garbage in open TV can only be seen as an improvement. By now even conservatives are thinking FOX is full o' dung news.

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God...

I hope they pull their 'content' off the air.

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TV exec doesn't get own way, throws toys out of the pram

Who fucking cares, really?

Cheap stroppy/pseudobullying tactics are childish tantrums, can't say I'm personally bothered in the least. Something WILL fill any void left, might even be something less mental.

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The pussy foot.

How many times has Fox threatened to leave or go pay channel? Is this the 3rd in just 10 years, or is the number higher? We all hope Fox goes away, but they just won't balls up enough to do it.

Roger Ailes put Fox in the shitter, now someone just needs to flush.

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Faux News

Faux News' average viewer age is 65 and rising. Guess why!

Good riddance.

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Re: Faux News

Hey! MY age is 65+ and rising ( I hope) and I don't watch Fox. I threw out my television decades ago. MPAA and RIAA can, well, let that go; I buy used CD's and eschew films. Entertainment Industry? Seriously?

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NOOOOOoooo.....

If FOX goes of the air, where will The Daily Show get most of its fodder from?

Disclosure: I am an Australian and I watch The Daily Show (and The Colbert Report) as I find it gives me a better sense of what is going on in the USA than most of the "official" news channels. And I get to giggle insanely at the same time.

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Re: NOOOOOoooo.....

Hell, alot of Americans watch those two shows for the exact same reason, you're far from the only person. They're funny but they both cover topics that the mainstream outlets are loathe to cover.

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Re: NOOOOOoooo.....

could you really imagine a true genius and shinning light of the right thinking right such as bill oriley cutting himself off from 'his people' by being on cable?

never

jon will always have at least this oaf to mock

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I've never watched Fox News

I probably never will.

They can do whatever they like.

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"The end of free TV ?"

To steal Yahoo's headline, the threat from Fox and other majors to foil Aereo may prove the death of off-the-air broadcasting. To be replaced by a subscription model or the new technologies.

Given the poor TV reception in many areas of US, given content aimed at people who respond to the fast food and beer ads the programmes are riddled with, the wider public has already given up on TV.

Even twenty years ago when I lived there, almost nobody I knew even switched on TV. The trend has now reached the UK. The overdose of ads, particularly on secondary channels that appeared with the advent of Freeview, is killing the medium.

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Re: "The end of free TV ?"

20 years is a long time. The public are still as hooked on Television as they were when you were here, anyone who thinks that people have given up on TV is deluding themselves.

The means available to view it have changed, but for the most part even that has stayed the same, most people have Cable/IPTV or Satellite and view it live.

The only time reception is poor is when someone is too cheap to rent a cable box and pay a sub fee. I know literally no one who doesn't have a subscription TV service of some sort, even in a major metropolitan market, having at the maximum 13 or so channels just simply isn't acceptable, even if you only watch TV for news and more high-brow programming like myself.

Premium channels are a different story, I have no need to see the same shit on HBO over and over and I'm not a fan of Game of Thrones, at least not enough to shell out 20 bucks a month for one single program. And I'm pretty sure that Murdoch wants to make his stuff premium.

It isn't worth it, and noone will pay to see his garbage except die hard GOP supporters that worship every tiny, god awful piece of shit that Murdoch and company make trickle out because otherwise its supporting Obammy, that damn uppity terrorist supporting queer non-citizen communist muslim athiest black* who never learned his place and thinks he's President.

Seriously now though, The last person I knew that used an Aerial for anything other than DXing FM radio from other markets was my grandfather....in 1988!

(*I'd use what they generally call him, in case you're wondering it rhymes with "bigger", but Id rather not have my post deleted or be banned)

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Re: "The end of free TV ?"

Those GOP supporters call Obammer 'Tigger'. A. A. Milne mus be spinning in his grave.

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Re: "The end of free TV ?"

Oh, when will the Citizens of Rock Ridge ever grow up.

The new sheriff is a Ni ... , now get over it.

" Obammy, that damn uppity terrorist supporting queer non-citizen communist muslim athiest black* who never learned his place and thinks he's President."

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As long as they take their "News" with them....

I couldn't really care any less.

Fox is a god awful network that cancels their best shows (Alien Nation, Space: Above and Beyond, Millennium, Firefly, Fringe, and so on) yet keeps rehashed crap like the modern "Simpsons" on the air. Their news would be laughable and is to an extent but since idiots like my wife's grandparents take it seriously its fairly dangerous as these people really believe the hate-mongering half-truths that Faux News presents as fact without questioning it. They also get super pissed off when you do question it and back up your assertions with verifiable facts. They hate the idea of unbiased factually accurate statements. If you're a brave soul, go read the bullshit on their forums. They make Daily Fail readers/commentards seem kind and respectable, relatively speaking of course.

Anyway, when they go sub only and all of five people and their respective trailer parks sign up for it, not only will Ted Turner laugh so uncontrollably they'll give him an hour on CNN just for that, the rest of the real networks will laugh as well.

Murdoch likes having it both ways though, and because everyone knows multi-billionaire criminals are so persecuted, or *gasp* held to account under laws, he'll probably be the first to bitch that Comcast, Disney, Turner, and CBS are running a cartel of liberal bias and the unthinking simpletons on the right in the public and in congress believe every word he and his droids have to say, so they'll waste a fuckton of money on yet another pointless and powerless congressional blue ribbon panel.

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Opinion vs Fact

"Aereo is stealing our signal," said Carey at NAB. "We believe in our legal rights, we're going to pursue those legal rights fully and completely, and we believe we'll prevail."

The fact is, now according to two different courts, that it is NOT theft, and Fox does not have the "rights" that Mr. Carey thinks they do.

I think that this falls, solidly, into the category of "I dare you".

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And Nothing of Value Was Lost.

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After Fox went off the air in 2013

There was a massive bounce back in the US economy, and how the US thought of itself, as people rediscovered the art of communication and left their homes blinking in the sunlight..

(c) Wikipedia 2020

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Re: After Fox went off the air in 2013

Oddly enough, I think that sums up a particular Simpson's episode....

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Thank goodness for right-thinking scribes!

Rik is of course right in his belief that the less Fox News content available to the unwashed masses, the better. Otherwise, who knows what uppity mischief they might get up to, given that someone slipped up and gave them the vote!

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Re: Thank goodness for right-thinking scribes!

No, removal of Fox News would be a positive benefit, given that their viewers are in fact less informed than people who watch NO NEWS AT ALL:

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

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Re: study goodness

If you actually looked into that study, you might not be so eager to control what others have access to. Assuming you're into actual evidence and facts and that sort of thing...

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Shit that passes as news is worse than no news at all, which is kind of the point of that study.

Only stupid people and rabid bible-thumping Conservatards actually believe Fox News actually says "teh truth". Murdoch is basically the 21st century Citizen Kane / Hearst. The kind of people that believe Fox News are the same that call Newsweek "Newsweak" because they don't believe in the retarded stupidity they do.

Hell. Maybe the problem isn't actually Fox News at all ... it is that there are people out there stupid/crazy enough to believe the stuff they put out!

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Steal All Intangible Property - oops, there is NO SUCH THING!

How can anyone claim to own a signal? It has been BROADCAST. It's just like Impotent Impropriety - Intellectual Piracy - whatever that stupid phrase is, a name for a non-existent thing. There is no such thing as intangible property, it's an oxymoron. Just because millions of people want to believe something - or even EVERY person - does not make it real. And no LAW can make real what is not. Nor can any government do more than kill us all - we can not be forced to admit that there is such a thing as legitimate authority, except where such a thing may actually exist - maybe in a lifeboat going over Niagara, or under enemy fire, but not in too many other places.

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Once again

I'll make my usual prediction that free to air TV is DOOMED, I SAY, DOOMED!

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In a perfect world

In a perfect world FOX tv would be banned from the air! All it does is supply garbage and lies to the public to help dumb it down and frankly in my humble opinion, the fewer people affected by it's immense ignorance the better. Who needs em? Nobody!

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Pics or didnt happen!

I want to see the room full of tiny telly aerials!

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tiny telly aerials!

Is this some new Reg unit of volume?

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Guessing it would be like the pit of hypo needles in that Saw movie.... Or not.

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Perhaps they need pursue the avenue

Of making sure there are really less subscribers than antennae?

then they'd have a case to appeal

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WTF?

I don't get it.

If you stick up an antenna, receives a Fox signal and view that on your telly, Fox are OK with that. Yes?

If someone else sticks up an antenna and you view the signal from that on your telly, Fox have a problem. Yes?

So, if you get someone else to stick up your own antenna, is that OK? What if that antenna isn't on your property (e.g. on the communal roof of a block of flats)?

How long does the piece of wire between your telly and the antenna have to be and how many people have to be involved in putting up the antenna to piss off Fox? Is the fact that the wire is or is not contiguous throughout the signal path an issue? What about one piece of wire with a signal booster in it?

Next point. Apparently the fact that whoever's doing this is providing one antenna per telly is the bit that makes it OK. So, what about communal antennas (i.e. that same block of flats with one aerial on the top and the signal piped into all the flats)? Is that now not legal?

Maybe I'm just missing the point completely and trying to find logic in rabid arsehattery?

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"Aereo is stealing our signal"

That's akin to saying a photographer is stealing your light.

So don't broadcast, then. PLEASE. Do the photographic equivalent of living in a cave.

Oh, you already do? Kill yourself then, Fox. Yes. definitely. That's the solution. Or stop behaving like an inconvenienced five year old. Yes, unlikely, I know.

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