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BT has convinced residents of Kensington and Chelsea that they can live with "ugly" fibre optic cabling cabinets on their streets. The move comes after the Royal Borough rejected 96 of the installation proposals submitted by the national telco in May last year. Opposition to the cabinets has now collapsed, however, with the …

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Ah well, you can't make an omlette without affecting house prices...or something like that!

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Now there will be big green thin steel sheet boxes just plonked wherever. The cheap paint will be easily scratched and they'll be full of dents.

So was there any attempt to make them more in keeping with surroundings? Maybe give them a thick coat of red paint and a little crown logo? Maybe even a curved top (not only aesthetically pleasing but will stop the oiks from sitting on it)

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Actually, the BT ones are very sturdy. They seem to have servers or some form of electric machine inside them as they require 230V and have a fan whirring away inside.

But it's not so much the appearance I object to but the fact that they are installed on the pavement reducing the width of the path. Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

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Actually, the BT ones are very sturdy. They seem to have servers or some form of electric machine inside them as they require 230V and have a fan whirring away inside.

Um - that would be the whole point of the article. It's because the equipment is needed at street level that BT are having to install new cabinets.

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"installed on the pavement reducing the width of the path"

As opposed to putting them in someone's front garden or floating magically 100m in the air?

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Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

Cars parked on kerbs are illegal: in cases where they're blocking the route for pedestrians free to give the side mirror a good hard smack with something solid on the way past. I do.

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IN KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDINGS?

MAKE THEM THE SIZE OF THEIR STUPID CARS!!!

I POSTED A SIMILAR COMMENT ON THE TELEGRAPH AGES AGO. I JUST NOTICED THAT SOMEBODY ALREADY POSTED A "CAR FOR STUPIDS' SIZE" POST DOWN BELOW, BUT HE OR SHE WASN'T SHOUTING SO IT DOESN'T REALLY COUNT TODAY!!!

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"Maybe give them a thick coat of red paint and a little crown logo?"

... and then stand back and watch as fools try and find the slot so they can post their letters in them?

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

https://www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/parking-239-to-247

Rule 244 - it's only illegal in London - the rest of the country has "should not park..." i.e. there is no law to prevent it.

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"They seem to have servers or some form of electric machine inside them as they require 230V and have a fan whirring away inside." Thats the nature of the FTTC service, copper connections backhaul'd via a fibre connection to the POP.

"But it's not so much the appearance I object to but the fact that they are installed on the pavement reducing the width of the path. Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well."

Give it 5 years when fibre connections are as pervasive as copper and the residents would be complaining that they don't have access to such speeds!

The great unwashed! The great bloody retarded more like.

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"Maybe give them a thick coat of red paint and a little crown logo?"

Or blue and white, with a blinking light on top?

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Nah, much too large for red paint to look right. Paint 'em blue with police box markings, on the other hand....

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

Rule 244 actually states this:

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it.

Now taking the whole sentence into context. Should not means in addition to the original must not. The critical point being the UNLESS clause. It has to be marked that you can park on the pavement for it to be legal.

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

Actually rule 244 of the internet = "WWE sucks, TNA rocks".

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

Illegal to drive on it. Not illegal to park there, or something like that. (compare and contrast with how upset people get at cycling on pavements.)

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

"... give the side mirror a good hard smack with something solid on the way past. I do."

Criminal damage for minor disadvantage? Such a nice person ...

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Re: Which is a real problem if some pillock has parked their car on the kerb as well.

Illegal to drive on it. Not illegal to park there, or something like that.

How do you think a car parks on the pavement? Magical teleportation?

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"Councillor Tim Ahern claimed that the tech would be deployed "whilst safeguarding the historic integrity of the borough." He added that BT would work with the borough "in a spirit of cooperation".

Interestingly, the council had this to say in May 2012:

BT has not worked in a spirit of cooperation and needs to consider our historic streetscape. Perhaps one of its competitors will step into the role."

Europeans do modernisation, investment and progress far far better than the UK.

One think I dread when returning home, is the ugliness, tackiness, shoddy workmanship, mishmash of old and new and the general culture against change leaving cheap compromises.

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Re: cheapzoid

You are, of course, generalising outrageously over what happens in 30+ different countries.

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"One think I dread when returning home, is the ugliness, tackiness, shoddy workmanship, mishmash of old and new and the general culture against change leaving cheap compromises."

Maybe you shouldn't do the DIY at home then :-)

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I see one flaw in the council's reasoning

What competitors?

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Well...

...if they don't want it then they don't needs it and will not use it.

So why don't BT spend the money deploying FTTC in places that want it..... like outside of london and indeed outside of any city.

Just a thought.

Mines the one with the drum of fibre in the pocket.

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Re: Well...

Exactly. Please, install a cabinet outside my house. Any time you like, BT.

My phone line is now working, but I get about 0.2Mbps down. This is beyond unacceptable in 2013.

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Maintenance is the key.

The BT FTTC boxes look quite good to me, and provided that they are properly maintained the should continue to do so as they seem to be made of better materials than the standard green cabinets - possibly because they need to be as they will be stuffed full of active electronics powered off the mains. One of these has just been installed at the bottom of my road and, within a few days some oik sprayed some graffitti on it in silver paint. A few days later it had been cleaned off. Let's hope that they are kept maintained. Given what's in them, it will be in the company's interests to do so.

I've also not see any that are 6 foot tall - more like shoulder height to an average person. The FTTC cabinets in the adjacent borough of Hammersmith & Fulham look OK to me.

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The last I heard are here there were plans to colour (paint) them more appropriately so they don't stick out like ugly sore thumbs. I believe that alternative shapes and designs were considered as well, as this is just a cover really as the interior will largely be the same.

But then telephone boxes are big red, largely useless (now) boxes, often scratched and damaged but they're a part of the sights of Britain now and quite a few are "protected" structures.

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And no doubt when these big, bright red boxes came out, everyone thought they were ugly then as well.

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Bewqre the 'heritage' industry.

Part of me suspects that in 50 years or so the mad "urban heritage" inustry will be lovably embracing BT FTTC-boxes in the same way it currently goes all-squiffy-at-the-knees at the sight of obsolete phone-booths and redundant post-boxes.

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Re: Bewqre the 'heritage' industry.

Doubtful they will go away. When you've got a home in a historic or heritage area you don't want to see it all bunked up by horridly designed infrastructure. That's why where I live they put it all underground or out of town near the water pumps and electric substations.

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6 foot?!

Nope I've just measured one: it's 4ft 7"

Yes they're powered - it tends to be a requirement when using non conductive optical fibre to connect to the exchange.

I do agree that sometimes their positioning across the pavement could have been better though.

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Re: 6 foot?!

Perhaps they're bigger on the inside.

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At least they're getting fibre

WHEN WILL BT STOP PUTTING BACK THE DATE OF INSTALLING FIBRE IN MOST PARTS OF GLASGOW!!!!!!

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

I DON'T KNOW!!!!! WHY DO YOU ASK?????!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

I'M GOING FOR COFFEE! ANYONE WANT ONE?

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

THEY'VE DONE IT HERE TOO - 31/3/13 became 31/3/14 this week.

And my house is in the BT Infinity adverts.

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

WHEN WILL BT STOP PUTTING BACK THE DATE OF INSTALLING FIBRE IN MOST PARTS OF GLASGOW!!!!!!

Well you buggers want to be independent, fit your bloody own....

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

HI, I'M BARRY SCOTT!!!!

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

I reckon most of the people in Scotland don't want independence. Devo-max maybe.

Otoh, the amount of people in England who want Scottish independence would appear to be significant.

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

AND I'M BRIAN BLESSED!!!!!!!

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

GORDON'S ALIVE!!

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"Devo-max"?

"I reckon most of the people in Scotland don't want independence. Devo-max maybe."

Soooo, a bunch of guys in kilts and Energy Dome hats, playing the Corporate Anthem on the pipes?

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

WELL SAID DARLING, BAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: caps are awesome

HI.

I'M FRED WINCHESTER.

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Re: "Devo-max"?

Have an upvote for the Devo reference. Doo, doo, doo, doo ... pling, pling. "Crack that whip!"

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

SO IS INDY!!

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the fuck! my caps won't lock!

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Re: At least they're getting fibre

YES PLEASE. ONE SUGAR AND A DASH OF MILK.

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Call me cynical

But I wonder how many of the people wingeing about "ugly" BT boxes actually also whine about how poor their broadband is?

I do agree, though, that BT could paint them in a selection of colours to make them stand out less. Stone grey for a street corner. Green for a park - that kind of thing. How hard could it be?

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SHOUTING!!!!!!

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"SHOUTING!!!!!!"

Usually done to indicate frustration! It's quite normal ladies don't worry.

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LOUD NOISES!!!!

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