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Cyber-espionage crews have been targeting the lucrative medical and life science industries using custom malware and spear-phishing, according to new research. According to a current US counterintelligence report which it delivered to US Congress, healthcare services and medical equipment are expected to be two of the five …

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This is just so moronic

Companies whose purpose is to find ways to stop you from dieing.

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Re: This is just so moronic

That's only the secondary purpose, their main purpose is to make lots of money. They will sell you an expensive patented pill with loads of side effects where an aspirin would do.

Actually I think not paying any tax might be #2.

Not that that's an excuse for the people hacking them, it's just more people who want to make lots of money.

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Why sell a cure for baldness when I can sell you a pill that stops your hair falling out as long

as you take it for life

Drug companies main business is making money

A product that actually cures your condition (so you don't need to keep buying it) is actually a failure of R&D from their PoV.

Anyone who does not realize this has a fundamental misunderstanding of what they do and why they do it.

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"A product that actually cures your condition (so you don't need to keep buying it) is actually a failure "

It must be nice to be so far removed from detailed knowledge of medical conditions to be able comfortably believe that.

There are really only two classes of condition. Acute - usually infections by viruses, bacteria and fungi. Viruses are hard but some short course treatments are available for some. Bacteria and fungi can be tackled by short courses although the nature of the organism or location of the infection can often require longer treatments esp. some fungal infections due to the difficulty of achieving therapeutic levels in, for example nails.

Some cancers can also be treated as acute problems depending on the mechanism being attacked.

Chronic conditions are very common, a product of life-style, genetics and environment. Reversing the disease in these conditions is MUCH less likely. A good example would be osteoarthritis where the damage to the joint may never be reparable. Here the aim of treatment may be to slow down the degeneration and ease pain. Ultimately large joints are best treated by replacements. Other chronic conditions like maturity onset diabetes again can't be simply reversed by drug treatment and in any case may require large scale changes to diet & exercise .

Ultimately many of the diseases may be tackled by vaccinations, gene therapy, stem-cell therapy, antibodies and life-style changes - these are still in many cases unknowns and potentially expensive unknowns.

By the way the current worries about antibiotic resistance are partly the result of the cost research combined with the limited returns due to the short treatment courses. The manufacturing costs of new, effective antibiotics can be enormous. I heard of one where the manufactured cost of the drug - which was enormous due to the length of the synthesis - was itself dwarfed by the cost of getting the lyophilised drug into a sterile sealed glass phial.

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Re: Why sell a cure for baldness when I can sell you a pill that stops your hair falling out as long

"By the way the current worries about antibiotic resistance are partly the result of the cost research combined with the limited returns due to the short treatment courses. "

So it would give a better return on investment if the course was longer. IOW the drug was not quite so effective. If the drug company had a choice that's what they'd go for. Sadly for them it seems the discovery and development process is not quite so fine tuned to their profit predictions.

I think you've demonstrated my point.

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The $1Bn is mostly spent on FDA paperwork

The $1Bn is mostly spent on FDA paperwork and therefore this alleged cyber-espionage is pointless.

I don't believe the pretext of this report. It is much simpler to attend the scientific conferences -- where the scientists who invented these drugs squeal like stuck pigs. Any info about a new drug is available there - except the $1Bn to pay the FDA, and except that the patent claims have usually been filed. Although the scientists are often apt to disclose weaknesses in the patents, too, with a little bit of alcoholic lubrication...

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clean energy

Why would anyone think clean energy is of any value? (We should wipe the cows' butts before extracting methane?) Most of these schemes are more costly (therefore wasteful of resources) and in the end no cleaner. Also, they are not a secret.

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