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MEPs are being urged to back a non-binding resolution that calls on the European Parliament to, in effect, ban pornography from the internet. A group of Euro politicos hope the web filth block will bring about a "genuine culture of equality" online. A motion was tabled this week by the EU's committee on women’s rights and gender …

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What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

Amateur porn, where people are making some money or just enjoying showing off. No exploitation there.

Infact, all this is total garbage. It's just people do honest work for pay, like any other job. Arousal has nothing to do with it.

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

seems the EU also banned 'common sense' in policy making - or maybe someone's got a bit of budget to burn up.

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

Governments worldwide banned common sense years ago. They found it got in the way of policy making, which, in turn, would have a detrimental effect on creating new and amusing taxes.

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

I have to say that when I saw this idiocy elsewhere, that sprang to mind.

Obviously whoever's behind this is a sexist bigot.

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

What? Women can't be gay?

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

It's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women, all participants in porn need to be rescued, and all watchers of porn are evil, degenerate males just waiting to abuse more women. And children. Don't forget to think of the children, only not too much. Oh and anyone that watches porn is gearing up to rape someone.

Never mind that a lot of women like porn, never mind that a lot of porn is amateur, gay, whatever, produced by women etc etc, that never enters into the heads of the folks that want to ban it outright. Never mind that availability of porn has always negatively correlated with rape statistics. No, it's all male violence. And what's more it might give them ideas!

There was a similar initiative to crack down on prostitution a while back, lead by some or other womens rights group. Radio 4 had a 'sex worker' on who said 'please don't presume to speak for me', perhaps the same should apply here?

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

This is bullshit. I know a rather large number of women that enjoy grumble flick action and so do most of the transgender crowd I'm acquainted with. So saying that banning porn for reasons of gender equality is garbage.

Or...if this about there being a larger amount of porn aimed at men, lesbians and bi folks, then I'll happily plop a signature on any petitions to increase female and gay porn on the internet.

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>>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

No it isn't. It's based on the idea that this is an accurate GENERALISATION. In the same way that saying "women earn less than men in the UK" doesn't precude some women earning more than most men.

So you have to decide if the generalisation is a load of BS or not.

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

"No it isn't. It's based on the idea that this is an accurate GENERALISATION. In the same way that saying "women earn less than men in the UK" doesn't precude some women earning more than most men."

OK, it's based on the idea that all porn *featuring women* is by definition male abuse of women. Not the majority, or the balance, or that most isn't but some really is exploitative so we ought to ban it all to be sure. Feminist opposition to porn really is rooted in the idea that porn featuring women, in and of itself, simply because it exists and regardless of how it came to exist, is male exploitation of women, gender violence and a precursor to rape.

I should add that not all feminists subscribe to this view, but look up Andrea Dworkin (for example)

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

I should add that not all feminists subscribe to this view, but look up Andrea Dworkin (for example)

Same AC here - I should also add that I consider myself a feminist in its most basic form - I believe women should have the same rights to self determination as men, that women and men should be treated equally under the law and by society in general, that discrimination in all its forms is wrong and that harassment and violence against women need to be stopped.

Hell, if someone said "a small but significant proportion of porn is basically rape, and we think that's enough to have a really good crackdown on the whole thing", I'd be very supportive. But what we get is just "porn is wrong, because we say so".

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

"harassment and violence against women need to be stopped"

But harassment and violence against men is ok?

Good to hear you're just as sexist as the men you despise.

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

"What? Women can't be gay?" - No, they're the L in LGBT

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

"Oh and anyone that watches porn is gearing up to rape someone."

Indeed some do think that's how it works. Which is a puzzle really: for as porn (largely on the internet) has increased in availability the sexual violence numbers have fallen quite dramatically. There's been quite a lot of research here (snigger) and the effect really can be seen. As broadband reaches a particular area, or penetration (snigger again) goes up, sexual violence falls.

It would appear that people who wank themselves stupid to "Garbanzas in Goop XIV" don't have the energy or desire to go rape someone.

But then this cause/effect thing has never really been taken seriously in any kind of politics.

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

What? Troll / idiot. How did you turn:

"harassment and violence against women need to be stopped"

into

"harassment and violence against men is OK"

Just in case you missed it I'll say it again - you're an idiot

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

What? Women can't be gay?

hmmm...

not to sure, i think i'll have to do some research on that....

brb

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Re: What about gay porn? Women aren't being used there.. What about..

> Never mind that a lot of women like porn

Years ago I spent a while unemployed, back pre-Internet at home late 80s time. Back when porn was either mags or videos, mostly under the counter videos kept in a cardboard box.

For a while I took to shuffling down to the video rental shop in the village. One day I got talking to the bloke in the shop, he said most of the under the counter rentals were women, they'd take the video out in the morning and bring it back in the later afternoon.

So bored house wives there seemed to out number bored blokes.

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

"But harassment and violence against men is ok?

Good to hear you're just as sexist as the men you despise."

Yes, because anyone that says violence and harassment of women is bad without explicitly mentioning violence against men is also bad must obviously be all for it.

How does it feel to be a total fucking moron? Is it a kind of empty bliss? I imagine it must be nice.

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

> Yes, because anyone that says violence and harassment of women is bad without explicitly mentioning violence against men is also bad must obviously be all for it.

The implication is there.

If the original author meant violence against people generally was bad, why make the explicit distinction at all?

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Re: >>it's based on the idea that all pornography is male abuse of women

"The implication is there.

If the original author meant violence against people generally was bad, why make the explicit distinction at all?"

Bullshit is it. By reading that into it you're playing exactly the same game as the the likes of Dworkin that the OP (me) disagrees so vehemently with. Leaping valiantly onto every last linguistic inflection in a desperate attempt to be offended by something.

It's tiresome, childish and stupid.

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On the bright side

My monthly bandwidth allowance will never get used up

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New UKIP slogan: "Save our Smut!"

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Angel

They'd win on a landslide...

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Well, at least some slide..

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I was of course not accounting for Dear Nigel's ability to conjure defeat from whole cloth with a rhetorical flourish and then declare it a victory. UKIP might have got somewhere if not for his ego-driven need to own the entire thing.

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> Dear Nigel's ability to conjure defeat from whole cloth

I turned on Radio 4 a few weeks back, and thought I'd tuned into one of their 6:30 satirical shows. Some clearly fictitious wannabe-pol spouting bile and vitriol.

It was Nigel Farrage doing his bit to lose the Eastleigh by-election...

Vic.

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"genuine culture of equality"

I'm for that, as I'm into all sort of weird pr0nz. Dwarf sex, Handicap sex, Homo-on-Lesbian, People-on-Bike, Donkey-vs-Donkey, Lasagne Sex you name it! Let's be equal in there!!

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"Donkey-vs-Donkey"

You should be careful, there may be mules out there...

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Its the asses you need to worry about.

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Re: "genuine culture of equality"

Homo-on-Lesbian sex Wait what MINDBLOWN!!!

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Re: "genuine culture of equality"

Rule 34 needs to be enshrined in law to protect us all!

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Purpose of internet must be removed

What did the lolcats do to upset the Gender EU equality fascists?

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Re: Purpose of internet must be removed

Yeah!! What he said. Everyone knows cats are female and dogs are male. Where's the loldogs pics?

<---- dity mac

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Really?

You can't make up stuff like this- unless the EU pay you to.

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Re: EU Political Correctness / Communism / Fascism

Oh Eadon,

If, for one moment, I thought you were attempting irony, I'd upvote you. Sadly, given your track record, I think this actually is your opinion.

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Re: EU Political Correctness / Communism / Fascism

Yes dear, of course it is.

It's one committee in the EU making a point on International Women's Day with a proposed motion that wouldn't make it past the commission nor the ECHR.

Stick to commenting on Linux

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Re: EU Political Correctness / Communism / Fascism

An Eadon comment is automatically ironic. It has nothing to do with his intention. Does he actually have intentions. In fact, I'm beginning to suspect Eadon is amfm release version. It's a pity though, that the coders have substituted breadth with (superficial ) coherence.

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Re: EU Political Correctness / Communism / Fascism

I can't believe you missed this golden oppurtunity to attack Microsoft and instead went off on some tangent about the EU.

If you're not going to take this job seriously remember there are plenty of others that would fill your shoes.

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Not all bad

If the porn was removed imagine the speed gains for the little traffic that's left...

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Re: Not all bad

Except with all free time people would also have gained they'd probably start streaming more mainstream material. I guess it could be good for the likes of NetFlix and LoveFilm

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Re: Not all bad

On the downside, the porn industry would go underground and most of the woman involved would be Eastern European sex slaves. You win some you lose some.

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Re: Not all bad

I think Perry Cox (of Scrubs Fame) said it best

If they removed all the porn off the internet there'd only be one website, and it would be called 'Bring back the porn.'

Paris because... well it's obvious, innit!

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Re: Not all bad

what traffic?

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I worked for an ISP about 8 years ago. One of the largest in the UK (NDA stops me saying who). After implementing packet inspection, we discovered that without porn, there would be no ISP industry. All other traffic paled into insignificance. Dunno if that's the case still.

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Re: Not all bad

Would an ISP with no porn be Virgin Media?

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"Would an ISP with no porn be Virgin Media?"

No, you can be on the business end of a facial and still remain a virgin ;)

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So, uhm...

...about the transvestite friend of mine who is making a pretty penny from adult cam sites. Going to remove that source of income, eh?

Charming.

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Well, yes, of course, because by degrading her/himself, s/he is degrading EVERYONE ELSE!!! In fact, s/he is worse than the watchers, a traitor to wo/men!!! S/he must be punished to set an example to others who have wrong views.

(We still need a sarcasm icon.)

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These are the same idiots who fine Microsoft for including a browser but allow Apple to do what they like. They are nothing short of talking arseholes.

If it wasn't for porn there wouldn't BE an internet. Why do you think we have smart phones with bigger screens, iPads, Flash player, online video etc, all innovations either designed BECAUSE of porn or designed with porn in mind. Porn PAID for the fledgling internet before it because commercialised for goodness sake. Can't see the germans agreeing anyway, they love a bit of titlation.

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