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Seething mass of testosterone and Google co-founder Sergey Brin has stated that smartphones are emasculating. Speaking at the Technology, Education and Design TED conference series on the subject of Google Glasses and the future of Google, Brin let drop that he finds the fastest growing technology of the past decade to be " …

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He is Guilty

In a large part due to ANDROID revolution.

After all they are giving it away, innit, and more people are adopting this"emasculating" device he so derides now.

It all began with Goolge.

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The iDevice that exploded in that guys trousers was potentially emasculating. I'll give him that.

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Coat

Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

Quite so. Televisions foster hyperbole, drama etc... We want none of that around here do we, Eadon?

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

I was really worried about you for a moment there, Eadon. You had a completely unrelated article to work and I was concerned that you wouldn't be able to find a place to get a gratuitous dig at Microsoft in.

But you managed it and thus all was normal with the world.

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

He's right about TV even if the rest is... eh-heh. Five 9s of crap and the rest is just dumb. It seems telling that the biggest television phenomenon in the last ten years is My Little Pony. For good or for ill.

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

Yawn. TED conferences long ago were interesting. TED is supposed to be an acronym for "Technology, Entertainment and Design" (Ideas worth Spreading). Unfortunately in recent years it's mostly been filled with a mix of the mundane garbage and outright charlatans pitching snake oil. In reality, it's now an acronym for "Twits, Egomaniacs and Dolts".

I know someone who gave a very bad TED talk that had nothing to do with Technology, Entertainment or Design simply because of their relationship with someone who works for the organization.

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

"Five 9s of crap and the rest is just dumb"

Get a PVR and do a little bit of research in advance instead of sitting down and trying to find a channel with something on. I can find at least 3 hours of worthwhile TV to watch every night. But if I had to sit down and just watch "what's on", I would certainly agree with you.

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

You've obviously been nowhere near a TV in the last 10 yrs if you think My Little Pony is the biggest TV phenomenon in that time...

- In the Night Garden

- Spongebob Square pants etc etc are all bigger TV phenomena that MLP

Mines the one with the small children trying to get the money out of the pocket...

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

- In the Night Garden

- Spongebob Square pants etc etc are all bigger TV phenomena that MLP

Oh c'mon, it's got to be anything with Justin Fletcher in, now there is a one man TV channel !

Mine is the one with the Tweenies, Something Special, Justin's House, Gigglebiz, Tikiabilla loving kids!

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

He has a point, men walking round not looking up, not looking left, not looking right, ears plugged with headphones staring and flickering screens....

Google specs will however just make you look a wally, and after you have crashed your car into the one infront because you were distracted reading an email, the world will see you as a fool.

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@Graham Dawson

Have an upvote for mention of MLP, whether you're for it or against it.

I would have to agree with your five nines of crap. I long ago chose to dump the box altogether and if I hear of anything that sounds interesting to watch I pick it up online.

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Re: Confessions of a search engine Exec

This is specifically why I won't have a "native" tv in the house.

PVR only, computer only.

Ages 8 & 10 and everything watched is still under my control.

Muahaha!

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Brin's remedy for the manhood-stripping mobes...

"Brin's remedy for the manhood-stripping mobes, of course, was Google's own augmented reality glasses - Google Glass - which has tiny computers bolted onto its frame and leaves your hands free."

Which will make you totally look like a techno-nerd (to ordinary folks, anyway).

So that's really going to help, yes?

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Re: Brin's remedy for the manhood-stripping mobes...

Were you alive at the beginning of the eighties?

If so you will remember that people talking on cell phones were considered to be assholes by the population at large.

We are all assholes now.

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Re: Brin's remedy for the manhood-stripping mobes...

Obviously looking like a techno-geek is the norm at Google, with their big kid playground offices. So they lack any comprehension of what real people like.

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Re: Brin's remedy for the manhood-stripping mobes...

It still is, hence quiet zones on trains.

Smartphones took off when SMS messaging appeared, texting is the thing that brought phones to the masses.

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New Balls Please

A friend told me that when her boyfriend got an iPhone, she didn't see his face for a month. She now has a new boyfriend.

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Re: New Balls Please

He had a lucky escape if she's less interesting than a phone

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Re: New Balls Please

Equally, she might have had a lucky escape if he finds a gizmo more interesting than a human being..

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Trollface

Re: New Balls Please

When is she going to look at herself and see she might be contributing to his interest in the phone.

Unless OP has a new girlfriend and they are just bragging.

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Re: New Balls Please

She has a new boyfriend... but he has a new iPhone, so who is winning.

(The answer is her. She is the one who is winning)

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She should post pictures of her in minor clothing in his iPhone, to see his face again, or at least a mirror in the ceiling, for that matter...

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Oh, I don;t know. We haven't seen a picture of the girl. She could have been an Anne Widecomb lookalike. May be this was the excuse he needed. Or maybe he was just hooked on Match.Com.

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Re: New Balls Please @ Ted Treen

"... she might have had a lucky escape if he finds a gizmo more interesting than a human being." I understand the sentiment, but I know some people who aren't as interesting as blank sheet of A4, let alone a new gadget.

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He hopes the new Google glasses will allow once more for "natural" human interaction.

I can imagine that happening when the person you're interacting with has a camera staring them in the face.

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Re: He hopes the new Google glasses will allow once more for "natural" human interaction.

...and while you think they are making eye contact and listening to you, they are pulling turnips in farmville.

Any technology can be anti-social. The only solution is an agreement on social etiquette. Unless talking while using your tech becomes as anti-social as blowing smoke in someones face then it's not going to go away regardless of the platform or form you're using.

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You look very manly wearing big glasses, any science geek can tell you that.

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Hmm...

Okay, Glass is a good idea. Technology as we know will slowly dissolve becoming more and more seamless with our lives. This is the first step from Google and it's pretty adventurous and more importantly, it works!

If this does indeed double as a mobile, then searching for contacts could be interesting, but when integrated with Google contacts using an online account, it could work well.

It does look rather geeky, but lets be honest, the technology will shrink in time.

Glass is a statement, a brave new world awaits and this is the start.

As far as the 'emasculating' statement goes... Well, that won't come back to haunt Mr. Brin... will it?!

He's excited, who can blame him, it is really cool! - Just don't wear them trying to pick up women.

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Pathetic

If that is all he can say about the product it's a sad day for Google.

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He had to say that.

He can't very well say "I can't use a smart phone, as our Chinese employees will report back the contents of my meetings in Maryland." so it's much easier to pretend he doesn't like them.

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I can think of more emasculating things

This tech reminds me in some ways of bluetooth handsfree ear pieces. People used to walk around talking into them not realising that to everyone else they looked either mad and / or a colossal dickhead. If their intent was to look cool, it failed badly.

I think these glasses will convey the same effect only more so since it's not just sound but vision too. Who really wants to engage someone in conversation who is wearing these? Are they filming you while you speak to them? Are they even paying attention to their surroundings or the email they just got? Maybe they're ogling you through some augmented reality dong / boobies app? How great would that be? Not great in the slightest. In terms of social acceptance I think these things will rank somewhere between strong body odour and Tourette's syndrome.

At least with a phone you can see them fiddly with it and know their attention is diverted.

The tech could be extremely useful in lots of scenarios where sociality is not necessary (e.g. Amazon warehouse staff could use the glasses as a HUD to fulfill orders faster). but I think the picture painted by Google so far is totally unrealistic. Who knows where it may end, but so far I'm not hugely impressed.

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Re: I can think of more emasculating things

I like people with bluetooth headsets. It lets you play the "crazy or on the phone" game.

If you see somebody in the supermarket late at night having an argument with the carrots you have to guess if they are crazy or not before you are allowed to look for the headset.

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Re: I can think of more emasculating things

So can I. I keep trying to talk my girlfriend into it, but she's rather reluctant.

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Dear Sergey,

'Emasculating'. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Oh, and while you're here, please stop the fuck trying to get me to sign into my Google account whenever I do a quick search for movie quotes I'm pretending to know by heart.

regards - FJB

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Re: Dear Sergey,

I would upvote you for the quote but then I would have to balance that with a downvote as it's inconceivable you don't know it by heart.

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Oh the irony, Google have no vision at all which must be why they are pushing glasses.

Everything Google have done so far has been a copy of something else that already existed or has been predicted in sci-fi of the past.

Google glass is a geek toy and nothing more. You will look like a right plum wearing them, even worse than those awful bluetooth headsets.

If you want to do something like a heads up display then you need to do it without forcing the user to wear something or use something to see it.

Touch screen devices were hampered by styluses, preventing mass market adoption and Google glass is hampered by the need to have stupid looking glasses on your face.

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Excuse me but WTF?

"If you want to do something like a heads up display then you need to do it without forcing the user to wear something or use something to see it."

Just how do you suppose that is meant to be achievable...a HUD is a projection on "something" unless you were maybe expecting a free-floating hologram?

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quote: "Touch screen devices were hampered by styluses, preventing mass market adoption and Google glass is hampered by the need to have stupid looking glasses on your face."

Yeah, but installing cybereyes lowers your Essence, not to mention being much more expensive, and they don't have many upgrade slots.

Also I don't think they've actually invented cybereyes IRL yet. I think we might be stuck with needing glasses for AR for a while :/

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@NumptyScrub

So I see someone has been playing Shadowrun... :)

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If friends of mine weren't so set on breaking any system they come across, I'd still be playing it. Gun bunny is one thing, but a 19-dice rifle pool on a starting character (and<5 dice everything else)? That's barely even 1-dimensional :(

Still, it means I get to try out quite a few different systems and see just how breakable (or not) they are... ;)

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"...leaves hands free..."

To wank?

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Garden shears are infinitely more emasculating. It's all about the right tools for the job, as enny fule kno.

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I for one agree, just because you’re a ‘Geek’ or an evolved man as I so often hear should not should mean you have to shed you masculinity as so many males have these days.

I for one am sicken at the sight of young men standing around in bars in London wearing tight trousers and expensive shirts, foundling their mobile phones instead of talking to women as if the mobile phone is now their USP.

It’s a sickening sight, no wonder the divorce rate is so high, when these boys have forgotten how to be masculine, just look at the amount of money men now spend on hair gel.

(Oh well, I also blame the tidal wave of cheap & camp TV shows for that).

I have even seen these ‘men’ when faced with fights, raise their mobile phones to their ear rather that put their fists up.

Who would have imaged 5 years ago that a man would actually want a to own ‘white phone’.

The corporate marketing machine have done their jobs well to dumb men down to point were there is hardly any boundary between men and women.

So I say good to you, for saying how it is, as the truth hurts and often offends.

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re. "...just look at the amount of money men now spend on hair gel."

Are you jealous because they still have hair to put gel on? I know I am. I used to be able to wear tight trousers and not look ridiculous - sighs.

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Re: re. "...just look at the amount of money men now spend on hair gel."

When I was a boy, we didn't have these fancy tight pants, or shirts, or hair. At all! And if we were lucky enough to have hair we certainly wouldn't put such a thing as gel in it! We used pomade. And we liked it damnit!

We had to walk 15 miles in a blizzard to go the drug store payphone to make a phone call. For a PENNY!! There was none of this new fangled devilry these damn kids call mobile phones. And there was only one phone color, black. Those were the days. And Men were MEN back then, I tell you!

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Re: re. "...just look at the amount of money men now spend on hair gel."

Aye well of course we had it rough. We had to work 15 hours a day, down at t' mill, for tuppence a week, and our dad would thrash us to sleep with razor, then dance on our graves singing glory halleluya.

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Having glasses drowning you in video ads all day long and probably recording your positions if not what you see 24/7 a la Google street car may be even more emasculating.

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