Salary hikes of up to 40 per cent could be on offer for IT pros in China this year as the surging demand for specialised skills offers certain ex-pat professionals some new opportunities for a change of scene in 2013. International recruiter Michael Page’s annual Salary & Employment Forecast (PDF) for China reveals a booming …
Looks to me like a viable option
The salaries for most range between £25K and £50K. That's similar to what they pay here in the UK. Looks to me like an option, all they do here in the UK is offshore your job, reduce your salary and your rate, throw one voluntary and involuntary redundancy wave after the other at you, reduce IT budgets....it never ends.
An engineer in the UK is treated like a suspect, as someone who almost has to apologize for doing his work. All the ideas you have are talked down and thrown out of the window. In China, India and the US the engineer is supported in his patent applications and tech startups.
What keeps me here...
Re: Looks to me like a viable option
Two crucial omissions in your comment:
- Tax (high...ish)
- Cost of Living (lower...ish)
It's still a +1 because you'd still be better off than here when these are factored in...
Re: Looks to me like a viable option
Reality check: China is NOT very guest worker friendly.
Not saying impossible, but it's not easy either.
It's not just the ability to speak mandarin, it's the ability to speak it with the correct accent. Even locals have to fight the old boys club.
I hate my accent in Mandarin.
I sound like a cross between Mao and a Beijingren.
My missus thinks the fact I _cannot_ say a little without the rrrr at the end of dian is hilarious.
Completely apropos of nothing and not related to the article, but it got my rant out. Cathartic.
Chairman Mao spoke Mandarin with such a thick Hunan accent that he was more or less unintelligible to the majority of those he led, but it didn't seem to hold him back ...
Yup, it's not a pretty sound, especially not when married to an accent from living in Beijing.
I dream of one day taking some elocution lessons so I can sound like I'm from Taiwan or something.
A Glaswegian friend of mine has been learning it for 12 years and is still unintelligible to the natives for some reason.
I can barely say hello and ask for a receipt (all that seemed to be required for my work trips)
Mandarin with Beijing accent required? I'm out then. I speak Cockney accented Klingon, so it's all wrong.
Salary increases in China ?
Would it not make more sense for the Chinese to outsource to India ?
Re: Salary increases in China ?
Outsource to India? Not really. There is the same problem with initiative. If you want a bank of graduates to stumble their way through a script, fine. But proper 3rd line admin, SME and project work? That requires experience, and people who aren't afraid to poke around to find the cause of an issue (and whilst poking, know which parts to avoid prodding too hard.)
Egg on face
I just moved from the mainland to Hong Kong, Damnit!
Given that I plan on moving to China in the next 12 months
This is encouraging news for me. Sadly I don't have anywhere near fluent mandarin and am desperately trying to learn.
Wish it was the same in Thailand
I took a 75% pay cut in the last year. It would be seriously nice if salaries here shot up too.
The problem with China is that I'm not sure I could learn to read and write, which would drive me batty. At least Thai has an alphabet (44 consonants and 32 vowels enough for you?), so you've got a chance.
That, and my wife is Thai.
Living here is WAY better than living in the UK, though (I've been here over 9 years already). Being an ex-pat is an interesting life, to be honest :)
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