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Intel has confirmed it will be selling a set-top box direct to the public later this year, along with a streaming TV service designed to watch you while you're watching it. The device will come from Intel Media, a new group populated with staff nicked from Netflix/Apple/Google and so forth. Subscribers will get live and catch-up …

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This reminds me of a quote from Quadrophenia when they're in the bath:

"Why don't you just f**k off?"

That's exactly what I'd be saying to Intel if they dared put any bloody camera in their set top boxes.

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they won't force you, nosir

they will give a consumer A CHOICE: shutter up, or no picture other than the 24/7 ad channel :)

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Re: A choice ...

Another choice, don't buy it.

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Re: A choice ...

Except that the STB will belong to the cable co, not you.

Intel missed a trick though. They should have framed it as facial recognition to automatically filter content based on rating. So a parent gets kid to sit in front of box and snaps a picture, enters birth-date and all content rated above child's age is filtered if the child is in the room.

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Kinect all over again...

Consumers weren't afraid to buy that...

Microsoft's patent on using Kinect to charge for the number of users watching a movie.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/microsoft-patents-kinect-anti-piracy-capabilities/

Microsoft's plans on using Kinect to look for logos on shirts etc, so they can serve up up even more adverts in the Xbox dashboard.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/ingame/kinect-lets-you-interact-ads-may-spy-your-mood-828447

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Eric Huggers

Eric bloody Huggers. He seems to lurch from one badly thought out tech nightmare to another.

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TV on demand...

That sounds like a great idea. Now all you need is content. Lets see whether Intel can actually get a decent amount of it, and manage to deliver it on the World Wide Web, rather than just a little local bit like Hulu does.

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Watching us watching you watching us watching you

I just wish this was a bloody "Game for a Laugh".

PC marketting, ultrabooks, hooky device drivers, it just seems that generically Intel doesn't have a clue these days. Where and when did it all go wrong?

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Imagine

What the camers will see in the eyes of customers when they stream porn !

All wide eyed, of course and much more.

And then imagine what more they will stream to enhance the user experience and tailormake the streams.

Wow, cant wait for the day. Whats not to like?

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Re: Imagine

Or rather, when intel starts streaming what you are doing in the sofa.... Amateur porn for the masses, by the masses.

In the western world, the TV watches you.

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Targeted ads

We've noticed you're trying stronger and stronger porn in a vain attempt to get hard. Would you like to buy ch£4p3r \/i@gra?

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Re: Imagine

What the camers will see in the eyes of customers when they stream porn !

As long as they sit close enough the picture will blur soon enough..

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Re: Imagine

"Since you're watching Vixens from Space perhaps you'd be interested in this, from our sponsor Astroglide..."

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Camera watching me, watching them...

DO. NOT. WANT.

Shutter for the camera - like i believe thats not see though.

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

It's a problem I'd rather not have but if it comes to it I'll gaffer tape over the shutter. Creepy bastards can fuck off.

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

Blob of Blu-Tak should do the job well.

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

Exactly- tape or Blu-tac would take less time to apply to the camera than it does to moan about it here. The chances are, in this house, that all it would see is a cat anyway - starts streaming Heathcliffe and Rastamouse.

No big deal.

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

I think I will rather open up the box and take a look. There is every chance there is a mic to go with that camera, so I rather make sure I only have *incoming* traffic..

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

How about a teeny round mirror right in front of the camera lens so they can watch themselves - or better yet, make the initial setup and ID using photos of someone out of a National Geographic, or a tabloid pic of a celebrity!

Oh, if the thing updates across a cloud, you *could' use someone else's face and possibly end up with their suggestions, no? Endless ways to fuck with it..

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mirror

I like the mirror concept. You could put any picture of somebody you want to defame in front and then watch 'disreputable' channels.

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

Errrrrrrm hands up how many of use have already put a camera in our living room courtesy of their PS3 move or XBox Kinect?

So we have innocently put a camera on an internet connected device in our house. doh!

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

Probably the designers thought of that: If the camera is not seing the right things, only Cartoon Network will be available - For The Sake of The Children!!

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

I can just see it. Hot summers day so you sit down in just your shorts. It recognises a certain amount of flesh, then replys. Hello Sir I know what you want to watch..........

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Re: Camera watching me, watching them...

Next idea for Intel: dummy camera (with free Blu Tack) in the top of the bezel, in the centre. Real camera surreptitiously hidden elsewhere - perhaps in the centre of the 'e' of Intel.

There you go - you can have that one for free...

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Re: gaffer tape over the shutter.

The fine article said there is a shutter.

More importantly, you still have Winston Smith's problem... how do you block the audio?

I see lots of 1984 references, with these kind of articles, but noone even sees the problems the book saw. How many people actually read it?

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Headcount?

Was it Intel that took out the "I'm not going to stream this movie until there are a few less people in the room" patent the other week?

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Re: Headcount?

It was actually Microsoft.

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Re: Headcount?

Not sure if this is the one you're thinking of?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/07/microsoft_drm_spy_patent/

MS have a patent on facial recognition stuff with set top [x]boxes identifying who is watching a film so as to charge based on number of viewers etc. Seems a very similar patent to the one that Intel apparently have?

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Re: Headcount?

Instead of just tape, stick a photo over the lens. Headcount my static metal ass.

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Re: Headcount?

Given how often the facial recognition technology in e.g. Picasa asks me to create a new person when it's spotted a particular configuration of tree branches or light switches or 3-pin socket or shadow on the wall...

Mind you, it wouldn't be too bad for Dr Who, as we all hide behind the sofa when that's on anyway.

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1984

Get ready for your daily Physical Jerks, soon to be monitored by your Intel TV!

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Re: 1984

Stop slouching over your keyboard JamesC! Sit up straight and at least try to look interested.

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Tape

Nothing that can't be fixed with a piece of black electrical tape.

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Re: Tape

Or closing the afformentioned shutter

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Re: Tape

Depends if the shutter is mechanical controlled by a lever alone or can be moved by a software controlled output. And how well it covers the lens.

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Re: Tape

OK, then the system probably will refuse to work. Previous systems have done that.

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99.7% of the respondents declared: "if the shutter doesn't come with a remote, I can't be bothered to go up and flick it down"

:)

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Sorry, but if you cover the eye, it will just give you an error message, until you uncover again that is. It's all in the EULA.

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Re: Tape

Where in the EULA?

WHere's the EULA?

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Re: Tape

EULA is the cry of the Martian invaders as they finally conquer humanity and drain their very lifeblood to feed themselves.

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drain their very lifeblood to feed themselves

Are Martians by any chance mosquito-shaped?

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Re: Tape

Three-legged mosquitoes, yeah.

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"You seem to have a not unfailure with your telescreen. An service engineer will be immediately dispatched to non unrecitify it!"

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Or better still, my set top boxes (PVR etc.) are not on the set-top - they are in a cupboard. As much kit as possible is hidden in the living room.

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"WHere's the EULA?" ... oooooohhhhh there will be, there will be.

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Or duct ("duck") tape. Seems there almost nothing that stuff can't fix (including, apparently Eric Huggers's latest wet dream).

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That's fine for the VISIBLE camera...

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Angel

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depends how many layers you wrap around the box...

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Really? You don't think that they'll be listening too?

So, having bought a smart TV with voice activation and the ability to Skype the family when I'm working away you think I'm going to gaffa tape my toys just so Intel can make money?

Forget it. I'll just refuse to use this s*** and if it creeps onto my consumer electronics I see an invasion of privacy prosecution on the horizon.

Possibly Intel could be added to the sex offenders register, because if my young kids can't run around naked in their own living room without being videoed, the world has become a seriously f***** up place.

Apologies, but this kind of thing makes my p*** boil.

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