Microsoft needs to keep visible under waves of Blue
Remember Microsoft's Blackcomb? Nor do I: it never happened. For years, Blackcomb was the code name for a “next” version of Windows after Longhorn. Longhorn became Windows Vista and when that lumbered out the working title for Windows 7 became Vienna. Now we have a new codename: Blue. Only Blue isn’t a new version of Windows - …
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Subscription service?
Perhaps Microsoft have decided that there is more money to be made by locking people into a subscription service, and they have finally figured out the best way to coerce people into signing up. It will be interesting to see the carrot/stick mix that they employ to achieve that goal.
Re: Subscription service?.. SCARY
Scary because if they can pull off SAAS in Windows, then, they can in real time screw around with emulators, especially with those running Win inside of Linux, and can disrupt those who are using short-lived installs of Windows as test beds, where for test beds, nobody in their right mind is going to pay (willingly) for testbed installs that are restored at the push of a button.
Worse than worse, this revives the decade-ago-or-so fear that MS could in almost-real-time snoop on people rather than potentially snoop at random, uncontrolled update times.
OTOH, maybe MS won't bugger up Linux installs running VMWare or VirtualBox -- it would be a HUGE PR disaster if caught masterminding, funding, or facilitating such a thing.
Then, there is the possibility that those who refuse to go SAAS might just get "crippled" versions of Windows, ones that work fine for some software, but mysteriously cranky or cantankerous for other apps, at random times, miraculously solved by "SAAS -- With Live Bug Killing and Slipstreamed Performance Enhancers"...
Re: Subscription service?
Microsoft can see their irrelevance coming hard and fast. All their thrashing about with smartphones, tablets, back-firing OS releases etc won't change a thing. And the people doing this to them are the very ones they've shat on for the last 20 years, since every area now either snuffing them out directly, or rendering what they do have left irrelevant, is powered by Linux.
Re: Subscription service?
From a business perspective, subscription is the way to go. Any business person knows that little and often is way more profitable than one off.
But... Customers will only subscribe if they perceive a benefit, particularly price. All I can see is Microsoft strong-arming their punters^H^H^H customers into paying for sod all. Let's face it, the so-called improvements to the desktop and Office in the last decade are pretty minimal and mainly aesthetic. Business is quite happily running XP & Office 2003.
The real irony is that IBM used to sell software mainly by subscription and Microsoft showed the world that you could buy and not rent software. It's like Microsoft have regressed to IBM's 1970's play book.
With this much competition, Microsoft's mediocrity is their biggest challenge. And their conceited arrogance to assume people will accept a subscription lock-in.
Re: Subscription service?
good for business? try telling all the customers still on IE6 that having your entire operating system swapped out for a cloud based subscription service is good, and that things can be changed and compatbility broken without you even lifting a finger, where being able to install systems with the same OS you installed last year is impossible because whatever you install will be automatically synced to the latest
they'll laugh at you almost as much as we laugh at them for still using IE6
it stinks of desperation, it stinks of a way of trying to take control away from users, it stinks of a way of trying to squeeze money out of people and businesses without them noticing it by binding them to a service they're just likely to continue to give approval to without examining the details, and knowing if they stop then everything will fall apart completely, it puts WIndows in the 'non optional' section when cost cutting measures are introduced.
it's a worse idea than Metro, even if Metro is the start of this with the store and apps.
Re: Subscription service?
@wibble
"The real irony is that IBM used to sell software mainly by subscription and Microsoft showed the world that you could buy and not rent software. It's like Microsoft have regressed to IBM's 1970's play book."
Eeek... Microsoft stealing Big Blue's business strategy right down to stealing their name!
Re: Subscription service?
Woudl this also make it difficult for Microsoft to radically change it OS. New version would remain simply incrementals in order that compatibility was ensured.
In other words you would not have to update any more often than every 2 or 3 years...
Unless of course your version "expires" beyong a given date ( now that would be a pain).
Re: Subscription service?
Hah hah, yeeeaaaahhh Bob.....
Last earnings report I got from MS, a couple of weeks ago, was titled 'Microsoft Reports Record Revenue of $21.5 Billion in Second Quarter'
Now, am I right in thinking (from reading other comments) that you work for Sony? A quick search finds the following paragraph talking about the results Sony released last week
"Sony revealed the numbers as part of its earnings announcement for the October-December quarter. The company booked an overall loss for the period of ¥1.1 billion (US$120 million), far better than its massive ¥15.8 billion loss a year ago"
So, that must be the 'power of linux' helping Sony to release such incredible results I guess....?
Re: Subscription service?.. SCARY
Your already being monitored in real time, all over the internet, from WITHIN Microsoft Widows.
2001 and well before:
Microsoft's Really Hidden Files
http://sillydog.org/mshidden.php
Look up this file:
Windows 7:
EntriqMediaTray.exe
The process known as Media Server Tray Application belongs to software Entriq MediaSphere or MediaSphere by Entriq (irdeto.com).
Description: The file EntriqMediaTray.exe is located in a subfolder of "C:\Program Files". Known file sizes on Windows 7/XP are 360,448 bytes (33% of all occurrences), 368,640 bytes or 372,736 bytes. http://www.file.net/process/entriqmediatray.exe.html
The file is not a Windows system file. The program is not visible. The program is loaded during the Windows boot process (see Registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run). EntriqMediaTray.exe is able to monitor applications. Therefore the technical security rating is 35% dangerous.
In case you experience problems using EntriqMediaTray.exe, you can remove the entire program using Windows Control Panel.
Which feeds data off your windows system to here:
http://irdeto.com/
And they do this shit:
http://irdeto.com/anti-piracy-services/tracking-and-enforcement.html
Blah blah blah blah................. sun shines out our arses etc. Blah blah blah blah.................
Irdeto Intelligence is the industry-leading solution to identify and track unauthorized digital content across all major Internet protocols including user-generated content (UGC) hosting sites, cyberlockers, peer to peer networks, IRC, Usenet groups and public FTP sites. On average Irdeto Intelligence processes 950 million detections that create over 35 million actionable events each month for its clients.
Irdeto Intelligence tracking services include:
P2P chart
Sample P2P report
Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Monitoring - the industry’s leading P2P platform for monitoring, reporting and enforcing copyright
Scans leading P2P networks, including: Bit Torrent, eDonkey/eMule, Ares and Gnutella to identify individuals who upload client content
Collects identifying information on the first uploaders, tracks propagation and can provide data for evidence packages in the event of possible litigation
Includes tracking by asset, file source, language, user origin and breakouts by unique users and downloads.
Compliant with MPAA file verification standards
Blah blah blah blah.................
Infringement Notices - Irdeto sends more than eight million Takedown Notices monthly on behalf of clients and monitors for compliance, providing reports to copyright holders on who has and who has not complied.
Microsoft's entire history is of spying on all people, through a whole range of methods.
Fuck the Peeping Tom Software Co.
this is not by choice
I think MS have to do this for good reason:
1 - iOS upgrades are free*
2 - MacOS upgrades are of marginal cost, ~$20
3 - ChromeOS is free*
4 - Android is free*
* you really pay for it by revealing details about yourself to advertisers, buying applications and search revenue
From my position, I am happy to fork out every one to two years on upgrading my OS, but only if that cost is marginal (<$30), if you are asking >$200 forget about it. I suspect that this is a fairly normal expectation. So MS have a choice, provide regular, affordable upgrades that lots of people will buy...or release a new version every 3 - 5 years, charge hundreds of dollars, sell not many copies and have your market share decline in favour of cheaper alternatives.
Microsoft should have been all over tablets like white on rice, the iPad was released in 2010 and could have been easily foreseen. The Chair-thrower in Chief should have been sacked for this stratagic bungle.
Re: this is not by choice
You make a good point. And yet I happily pay >$200 for an OS and office suite if it means my documents and mail aren't indexed by the NSA, I mean Google, and if it keeps advertising off my desktop.
Choice is a good thing.
Re: this is not by choice
iOS upgrades are not free they are a marketing tool to promote/force you to upgrade to newer device.
You remember when Siri rolled out it was only supported by iPhone 4S and iPad3, the older platform allegedly not being powerful enough. In reality they were as the iPad mini is an iPad 2 in a smaller form factor and yet suddenly powerful enough to run Siri (which is mainly datacenter based anyway).
Re: this is not by choice
@Spearchucker Jones
You can get an excellent office suit for free, LibreOffice (newly released version 4), that is *guaranteed* to be free from snooping, spyware, ads etc. (Guaranteed in the sense that, being a big open source project, if source code that spied was inserted into the code base, it would be quickly found and there would be an instant scandal).
If you do not want to be spied on, or snooped on, don't use MS Windows. Don't use Google Docs or Gmail etc. Don't use MS Office or Outlook (client or online). Avoid the clouds and FB etc
If not being snooped on is important to you, then use Linux Mint (not Ubuntu with its WTF Amazon in desktop search crap) / LibreOffice and an open source email client. Also use Firefox and adblock, NoScript and cookie monster plugins and generally be paranoid about what sites you surf to.
Re: this is not by choice
@SMabille - free as in beer but not as in liberty. If you want liberty then you need Linux, LibreOffice and other open source systems.
Re: this is not by choice
iOS upgrades aren't "free", certainly not forever. There is a limited number you get included with any device, about 3.5 by my reckoning (3 full ones, then a "limited" version that doesn't have all features, like multi-tasking, or Siri as two prime examples).
Re: this is not by choice
As true as that may be, it is hardly unique to any one vendor.
It is not a holy war, it is a computer; once you you get to consumer-space, you buys the best you can gets.
Re: this is not by choice
"...if it means my documents and mail aren't indexed by the NSA..."
It doesn't.
Re: this is not by choice
Yeah, I think Spearchucker Jones meant that you can get an excellent Office suite that actually works for $200. We all know you can download tat from the internet for nothing. However, most people prefer to pay a bit of money to get their hands on software that is stable, easy to use, productive and not riddled with bugs. This is why MS make billions off their Office franchise and the FOSS Office packages are used by about 6 people globally.....
Re: this is not by choice
"used by about 6 people globally..." plus 13000 in Munich.
Re: this is not by choice
Searching on-line for usage figures for LO & OO gives widely varying and likely highly inaccurate figures. This to be expected of course. However the more telling statistics are how many articles try to downplay the usage.
One can ask to what purpose. If the usage is minimal it scarcely warrants mention surely. Have all these people nothing better to do than be critical of something they seem to think has very limited distribution ?
Re: this is not by choice
......used by 13000 people in Munich. Under duress. To satisfy the ego of a megalomaniac bureaucrat......
Re: this is not by choice
"To satisfy the ego of a megalomaniac bureaucrat......"
As opposed to the billions forced to use Windows
MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
The cloudy and mobile revolutions are creating competition for MS and now it can't just sit back and chase Apple's tail lights because suddenly Apple's tail lights are out of sight and there are many more important tail lights to chase. And in the rear view mirror there are new cars fast approaching. Oh how I love car analogies..;.
Anyway, now MS actually has to do some work just, and get its work force making stuff that people actually want for a change.
The people do not want Metro, so now MS is in the brown stuff up to it's neck, as Metro was the foundation of their mobile strategy and they even put it on desktops to promote it.
Anyway, with waves of announcements of Google Chrome OS based laptops and desktops appearing, which will sooner or later run android apps, MS is looking at a threat to its desktop monopoly that is SERIOUS. REALLY F****ING SERIOUS.
Remember how fast Chrome Browser beat up IE? (Firefox having already weakened IE's hold on the market of course)? Well if Chrome browser can beat up the default browser on Windows, and if Google search beats Bing, the default search on Windows, then IMAGINE what a Google OS can do to Windows itself?
So Google is bending MS over a desk once again. MS needs to make prophylactic moves to stave off Google. And "Blue" is the knee jerk reaction.
Blue Screen Of Death is what comes to mind when I think of MS and blue but there you go.
This is going to be a really really fun year! MS has all but failed on Mobile, having been CRUSHED. Now it has to defend its desktop turf against Google, and it's MS Office turf against Google Docs and Libre Office. LibreOffice is improving FAST! It has a real energy to it, now it is free from the dead corporate hand of Oracle. LibreOffice 4 is professional quality, better than MS Office in some ways too. Better UI for starters. Open ODF formats etc.
MS is seeing it's own cash cows of Windows and Office seriously under fire and now it wants to evolve them as fast as the competition is evolving it's wares.
On the Server, MS is losing out to Linux. In a world of Clouds, VM's and Big Data we have geeks using Linux, because Linux is king! Fast and scalable.
Linux is also on Raspberry Pi, which geeks and kids alike adore! And Linux powers Android, of course, as does Java. And that brings us back to Google.
So MS is under serious threats from all directions. And it has hit the panic button - called "blue"
Eadon has analysed the situation, you are free now to launch personal attacks.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
You make it sound like a single company offering all the services is a good thing.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
@Eadon
Leaving the fact that I actually *like* Metro, AD, Outlook and Exchange, and Excel aside for a minute, and that I won't go near a ChromeOS laptop -- Libre Office? Version 4? Seriously? It's getting better, for sure. But still not usable. If you don't need the power of MS Word, then Writer or Wordpad are better choices than the poorly-implemeted Libre UI (yes, I know the inconsistencies are a result of a cross-platform product).
Excel beats the crap out of Calc or any other spreadsheet. Data manipulation is a domain in which lean never works and Excel is the opposite of lean. Trimming math functions doesn't make sense because 10,000 more functions never clutter up the user experience. Excel is really an extremely user-friendly IDE for a Turing-complete programming language which includes drag and drop, a REPL, and macros (with respect to the data layer). It's syntax is simple (yes, I know it wasn't invented by Microsoft).
Microsoft stuff... just works.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Microsoft stuff... just works.
No it doesn't.
I recently left a situation where the Dept. had an > $50,000,000.00 annual IT budget. Of course it was a Govt M$ full on Kool-Aid shop. That situation there was just horribly dredfully broken. Costs were completely out of control and attempts to upgrade would just make things worse. Virtualization was slow and ineffiecent on monster good hardware. Nobody could fix anything themselves as there were too many side-effects and M$ (ca-ching) specialists involved.
No clear plan for the future was possible. Management was looking to marketing for guidence. The only hope for most drones is to somehow hang on for retirement before redundancy. And with that in mind managers were bloating up their projects so that they'd have fat to cut in lean times in their own personal defence.
And all this to be on the trailing edge of I.T.
Microsoft stuff ... just costs.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
"Microsoft stuff ... just costs."
The job of Microsoft is to make as much cash as possible, job of customers is to spend as little as possible. Microsoft was doing its job properly, your department wasn't.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
> Turing-complete programming language
That word again.
I'm gonna finance a fund to set east-european cleaners on people soon. I am undecided...
> It's syntax
It's decided.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Give over with the "power" of your choice of application Spearchucker Jones, the _vast majority_ of users create simple documents, the same way they use other applications to simply browse facebook or view youtube.
In fact they probably don't need an office suite at all most of the time, 95% of my files are in text via gedit, the ones that need to leave my office are in w97-2003 doc format via Libre as everyone can read them. 30 years of documents in a few megabytes.
Microsoft stuff... just works... most of the time except: sometimes when your adding a new IP and you have to disable and re-enable the nic or when a server take 4HOURS to shut down and reboot or no apparent (or logged) reason, or when you have to apply another slew of fixes for a web server and the IIS fixes are installed first stopping the web service while the rest slowly install, reboot and continue to install or when a new server is brought up and needs ten reboots as each fix is applied in turn rather than the delta between the new install and latest update set. Sounds great doesn't it, where do I buy such powerful software?
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
"I recently left a situation where the Dept. had an > $50,000,000.00 annual IT budget. Of course it was a Govt M$ full on Kool-Aid shop. That situation there was just horribly dredfully broken. Costs were completely out of control and attempts to upgrade would just make things worse. "
I think you'll find that most likely had nothing to do with Microsoft's software.
I too have been into many companies and you find that the common denominator in dreadfully broken IT with spiraling costs isn't the software but instead, poor management, bad (or disengaged) IT staff, lack of company IT strategy, nepotism, collapse of Client/Vendor relationships, poor fiscal controls, "tactical" decision making. Etc. Costs spiral and service is shit at companies that use all kinds of technologies be they open or not, free, subscription, upfront bills, or other, I recon a large number of other companies (car companies for instance) have similar issues due to a slightly modified list.
Now it's true you can buy the wrong software for the job but then that's normally down to one of the issues in the list.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
I think you'll find that most likely had nothing to do with Microsoft's software.
My observation, apart from the poor management, bad (or disengaged) IT staff, lack of company IT strategy, nepotism, &c which I wholly agree with, was that the overall poor quality of M$ offerings led the poor sods to believe thats just how I.T. works.
M$ has effectively so massivly lowered the bar on software expectations that it has truely played a role in retarding the worldwide economy. When those externalized costs are recognized and recovered there will be a sea change.
I.T. as an industry is hugely overstaffed and underqualified. That is not sustainable, especially on declining margins.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
At least if MS goes bust we will no longer have to put up with Eadons ramblings....
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
"Sounds great doesn't it, where do I buy such powerful software?"
You don't have to buy it. It is available freely and called Linux where reboots are rarely required.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
@Mr Anonymous
"...they probably don't need an office suite at all most of the time..."
No argument. You're absolutely right. That however doesn't reflect the real world, in which a smart phone user who hasn't managed to mangle a photo with Instagram, loads that photo into Photoshop and mangles it there. When something a lot simpler would mangle said photo just as well. And yet said user wants a copy of software that has managed to make the entire lithography industry redundant because of it awesome power, I mean, it's digital retouching and DTP capabilities.
A counter-example of the luddite using rocket-surgeon scalpels is my girlfriend. She's an economist at a rather large central bank and loads the most insane financial models into Excel that run overnight. She gets home and one guess what she uses for anything that even vaguely resembles a list?
There's always a reason for your server taking 4 hours to shut down. I'm happy to come and take a look.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
guess what she uses for anything that even vaguely resembles a list?
* (list 'lisp 'mathematica 'matlab 'scilab)
(LISP MATHEMATICA MATLAB SCILAB)
*
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Eadon -
MS is on DEATH ROW - Do you even know how many products MS delivers? Although Windows and Office may have been its must have offerings, it also produces MS Project Server, Commerce Server, XBox, Sharepoint, Exchange Server. These products have a decent share in the market which they compete and aren’t just poor me too products.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Sounds like you need a real Windows Server engineer.
In 14 years of designing, building and supporting enterprise solutions built on WinTel using NT from 3.51 upwards I've never seen or even heard of those issues.
Need someone to build you a reliable benchmark tenplate of 2008 R2 or 2012 let me know. I'll even show you how to patch things properly and put HA in place for your web servers too. (What sort of shop complains about updates not doing IIS and starting it up again immediately, but you can afford the downtime of patching a server? Champagne taste but lemonade money?)
As a fellow Vulture reader I'll throw in a 10% discount on my day rate.
You're welcome.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
"A counter-example of the luddite using rocket-surgeon scalpels is my girlfriend. She's an economist at a rather large central bank and loads the most insane financial models into Excel that run overnight"
Your gf sounds cool, but should be fired for incompetence. No wonder banks screw up all the time.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
@km123
"Do you even know how many products MS delivers? Although Windows and Office may have been its must have offerings, it also produces MS Project Server, Commerce Server, XBox, Sharepoint, Exchange Server."
@km123 - that's where MS makes a fortune, by locking in Enterprises and Governments. But that can unravel.
Let's take MS Office. An enterprise switches to LibreOffice. Then it doesn't need outlook anymore. So it ditches Office. Then Sharepoint doesn't make sense anymore. So it ditches sharepoint (hell there are far better alternatives that DON'T SUCK DONKEYS BALLS. You don't need Sharepoint, you don't need Outlook, guess what, you don't need Exchange either. And if you don't need Echange, you don't need Windows. Not on servers. Not on desktops. And certainly not on mobile devices. Obviously.
There are always VM's for those that need specialised MS products now and then. But everyone else can move to Linux and save a FORTUNE! (Or Chrome OS come to that). It's just a matter of time before people do what Munich did. Munich council saved 11 million euros SO FAR by ditching MS in favour of Linux.
Switching to Linux saves you a hell of a lot of money - this is TCO!
As for XBox - this makes no difference at all to MS's bottom line. It's till $10 billion in the red and currently makes a loss. Consoles are hardly very profitable right now and the rise of upcoming Linux consoles, including the Valve Box will be new competition.
To return to my point, Enterprises and Governments etc do not need all those crap Microsoft products. There are far better alternatives out there. But MS locks them in. But now bean counters have Apple kit, iPads, Mac Book Air etc, they are starting to question the wisdom of using MS Office and all the other shit. They could save so much money if they simply took a step back and said, do we really need all this expensive yet low quality, slow, buggy, insecure MS sh!t on our servers?
Enterprises are now cutting back on costs, and those MS licences are getting very expensive, between 8% and 400% is how much they went up last year, with CAL licences increasing 15%.
SUCKERS!
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Linux is For Shit as well... along with the rest...
"Oooh. You want to try and do this?"
"Yup."
"That would be really cool."
"I thought so."
"System Policy says Fuck You."
"I already saw that."
"You can always modify the source code."
"Thanks... Fuck you."
"Don't forget. We fucked you First."
"Fine."
"Pizzas for us then :-)"
"Lost carrier.....
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
@Camilla Smythe - getting someone to implement your idea in the Linux kernel is probably going to be difficult. But without context of what feature it was that you were asking for, it's hard to form an opinion of your post. What did you request? Maybe what you suggested was a bit of a dumb idea.
But maybe what you suggested was a brilliant idea. In general it's hard to get other people to spend time coding your idea because they're busy coding their own ideas or being paid to code other people's ideas. So the best way is to code the feature yourself or pay someone else to do it, then submit it.
Now compare that to closed source systems, with closed source systems you have the same situation or a worse situation. Sorry if I'm sounding a bit patronising, it's for the benefit of others here too ;-)
Re: Microsoft stuff... just works.
"Microsoft stuff... just works." - ha ha aha ha ha ha ha ha h ah aha that's a good one! LOL!!!
@AC
"You don't have to buy it. It is available freely and called Linux where reboots are rarely required."
Unless of course a new kernel update is being installed. Which seems to happen more and more often as of late on my CentOS 5 & 6 servers.
@Eadon
"Let's take MS Office. An enterprise switches to LibreOffice. Then it doesn't need outlook anymore. So it ditches Office. Then Sharepoint doesn't make sense anymore. So it ditches sharepoint (hell there are far better alternatives that DON'T SUCK DONKEYS BALLS."
Well, in Munich they actually tried this. And although the mayor claimed to have saved E 4 million the project was eventually deemed unsuccessful since the costs turned out to be a whole lot more than planned.
This project got in jeopardy around 2003 and only last year did the mayor proclaim his success. But that still means it has been an ongoing effort for over 9 years already. And in contrast to popular belief this project basically involved a switch to Open Source software on the Office front.
And speaking of which... your ignorance is showing once again; SharePoint does a whole lot more than merely serving Office based solutions.
Re: @Eadon
Well, in Munich they actually tried this. And although the mayor claimed to have saved E 4 million the project was eventually deemed unsuccessful since the costs turned out to be a whole lot more than planned.
ShelLuser, care to source your reference? Here's mine: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/City-of-Munich-disagrees-with-HP-s-Linux-migration-study-1797232.html
To wit: City of Munich disagrees with HP's Linux migration study
Munich's City Council has objected to HP's study in which the company analysed Munich's Linux migration on behalf of Microsoft.
And so on...
Re: @Eadon
"This project got in jeopardy around 2003"
AFAIK the project only started in 2003 and it wasn't until 2006 that implementation started. By 2013 there were ~13000 workstations running a specific Linux variant based on Ubuntu but with a KDE desktop.
I also find it rather telling that MS claims that the move to Linux cost more than staying with MS but has declined to publish the study they did on this.
Re: @Eadon
SharePoint does a whole lot more than merely serving Office based solutions.
For example its serves as a wonderful Active Directory Federated Services trojan. Sugar on a sour pill.
What, cure not working, take two more vendor lock-ins and call us in the morning.
You LIKE Metro?
Dude, you're getting a downvote just for that man!
On other news: my coworker who went down the brave path of using Win8 got fed up and is wiping that POS out, replacing it with Fedora 17. TIFKA Metro is a huge part of that decision.
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