Whatever WikiLeaks eventually thinks of the movie being made about Julian Assange, it’s proving expert in the business of buzz-generation. After shooting began in Reykjavik at the end of January (Iceland Review), the organisation has revealed - completely co-incidentally, of course - an incident in August 2011 in which FBI …
Where is the interesting part of the article?
The bit where the big superpower tried to enter Iceland and use Icelandic police as a their peronnal puppet is a good guess.
Err- America tried to be naughty and Iceland Bjorked them...
@Dennis, no that's the conspiracy theory bit of the story.
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. Probably a procedural balls up.
Yes you're right, it's of no interest that a bit scary country sent it's enforcers illegally to a smaller country, and it was hushed up. Assuming you are the tyrant of said big scary country that is.
"The bit where the big superpower tried to enter Iceland and use Icelandic police as a their peronnal puppet is a good guess."
Like New Zealand...
I'm sick to the back teeth of the Hanlon's Razor Nuremberg Defence. "They were only being lazy and stupid."
Ignorance and willful stupidity *are* malice. If you can't be f***ed to learn and you can't be f***ed to understand, that's f***ing malice aforethought. Just 'cause it seems more fuzzy and friendly than outright hostility, it's as antisocial as ti comes nonetheless.
"Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence." If that was the case, then malice would never be attributed - I can't think of a case of institutional malice where incompetence couldn't be an explanation (individual cases are more divisible).
Re: Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
That's just what they would want you to think.
@Falanx Malice would imply some ill will from the FBI towards the authorities of Iceland. I would suggest that "arrogance" is more likely i.e. it probably never occurred to the FBI that other counties have their own laws and procedures and that perhaps they should check before just turning up.
Hanlon's Razor (never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity) has a corollary though - "stupidity maintained long enough is a form of malice".
Re: ...and use Icelandic police as a their peronnal puppet is a good guess.
Too bad the kiwis didn't take notice of that before the clusterfuck involving Dotcom.
The FBI thinks they're being polite
Well, at least this time they sent their own agents, instead of just sending extradition requests. Saves money to taxpayers at the other side.
Re: The FBI thinks they're being polite
My guess is Mossad didn't like the cold.
Piss myself laughing if they were actually there on holiday or even better doing something that had fuck all to do with Assange!!
Not that the oxygen thief is getting annoying now, but seriously a couple of FBI agents go to Iceland.....
.......mines the smoking gun on the grassy knoll!!!
...because everyone asks for co-operation from the local police with interviewing people while they're on holidays. What's a holiday without a few interrogations?
You seem to have misplaced your sense of humour!!
"What's a holiday without a few interrogations?"
What's a holiday without a few "enhanced" interrogations?
There, fixed that for you. Lightweight liberal terrorist-harbouring nancy.
"You seem to have misplaced your sense of humour!!"
Have you not learned that you cannot make jokes about the holey one without getting a severe downvote?
Iceland should tell the US to FO
Somebody needs to say it first.
Re: Iceland should tell the US to FO
Remember the days when the USA was isolationist...... Those were the days....
Europe not being able to sort out its own affairs ruined that. It was looking bad again there for a bit but things have calmed down lately. Still having no money is going to keep Team America out of a lot of affairs for quite some time.
Doesn't Russia own Iceland now?
Re: Iceland ........ APT Gateways and Novel Noble Portals?
That's an interesting theory and crazy notion to actively develop for further exploitation of advanced opportunities with zeroday vulnerabilities in politically inept applications in globally minded institutions with stealthy programming projects.
And whenever it be true, The Vociferous Time Waster, does it indicate that Russia are leading in that particular and peculiar competitive race?
Uncle Sam Suffers from Nervous Breakdowns and Panic Attacks due to SMARTR* Intelligence Deficit
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. Probably a procedural balls up ……. AC Posted Sunday 3rd February 2013 23:06 GMT
Probably a procedural balls up, AC? Oh please, you cannot be serious whenever incompetent malice is systemic and endemic in a big scary country.
Yes you're right, it's of no interest that a bit scary country sent it's enforcers illegally to a smaller country, and it was hushed up. Assuming you are the tyrant of said big scary country that is. … tirk Posted Sunday 3rd February 2013 23:14 GMT
If you can believe the evidence/news here, ….. http://www.thedailybell.com/28642/Paul-Craig-Roberts-In-Amerika-Law-No-Longer-Exists-the-extermination-of-truth …. would they be wannabe tyrants of a big scared country/failing executive body/second rate sub prime sysadmin in dire straits need of novel betas with better intellectual property feeds and seeds.
And there is no question of that analysis not being right.
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Re: Uncle Sam Suffers from Nervous Breakdowns and Panic Attacks due to SMARTR* Intelligence Deficit
OMG! I think I just blew an aneurysm.
...and I've now got the chorus of Money for Nothing going round and round in my head.
Thanks AMFM :-|
"No She-Troll hunting without a permit!"
And what are Ögmundur Jónasson's links to Dickileaks pet she-troll Birgitta Jónsdóttir? Given his own involvement in the Icesave mess, maybe he was just paranoid the FBI may have been looking at where all those "protected" Icelandic investors were spending their political contributions.
/Holmes as we don't have a Jack Bauer icon.
It's interesting that the US managed to move from "moderately trustworthy" to a status well below China and Russia in less than a decade, and continues to dig deeper.
Hey. Eight years of Bush/Cheney, so what do you expect?
"It's interesting that the US managed to move from "moderately trustworthy" to a status well below China and Russia in less than a decade, and continues to dig deeper."
Huh? Seriously? So they were a bunch of huggy my-little-ponies during the 'Red Scares', Cold War, Vietnam, et al? How about when the US government dragged its heels over getting involved in a couple of World Wars until they deliberately racked up enough credit with every other superpower to effectively destroy future competition?
Heck didn't they annex California, New Mexico and Texas before 1850?
The US has been an imperialist, expansionist power.
Like father, like son!
Apparently so. And some Texans I met while there still don't like the situation much.
From a British perspective, much development in the region for agriculture was being bankrolled by London around that time. Needless to say, compensation for the early investors was not generous nor forthcoming.
I'd expect that the more "liberal" president would start filling in the hole instead of continuing to dig.
>Hey. Eight years of Bush/Cheney, so what do you expect?
What occurred. The US going from the only economic/military superpower with some moral credibility to just another broke ass corrupt country that tortures people.
Should have let them in.....
Provided that I give them all body cavity searches while wearing my shoulder length gloves, and then a good scrub down on one of the CIA style wooden horizontal showers.....
Maybe smear them in their own shit and take photos - or attach electric wires to their genitals etc...
Or how about feeding them Depleted Uranium suppliments, there's 1300 tons of that laying around Iran and Iraq.
A few grams each shouldn't hurt.
FAIL - The Americans and their spreading "Peace and Democracy" to the world, sure has united it. The rest of the world has the same flag as the American's, but theirs is on fire.
Re: Should have let them in.....
Hmm. Maybe, just maybe it's time for your medicine..
1692 - Salem witch trials
1950 - McCarthyism
War on drugs, on terror, forcing thru' IP protectionism...
America has never had a problem with seeing monsters under the bed and trampling all over due process.
But I suppose it's Britains fault really, we should never have let the terrorists win, (1775–1783) - ooh, ouch!
"we should never have let the terrorists win"
Never mind: At least we ALL learned our lesson of not trying to inflict policies on a local population who doesn't want you there, on another continent, at the end of long supply lines, in inhospitable terrain, against irregular forces who are personally invested in the future of their nation.
A$$ange is yesterday's news
Wikiloser and A$$ange are insignificant fools seeking media attention and some in the media are dumb enough to oblige them.
Re: A$$ange is yesterday's news
Be careful what you say about Assange, judging by my earlier comment either people didn't get the humour or they took exception to me referring to St Julian as an Oxygen thief!!
Anyway back on topic, has anybody said what the Feebs were doing in Iceland in the first place, or is it just 2+2=4 or 2+2=Assange, in other words were they looking at Assange or something completely unrelated to Wikileaks?
US registers own protest
... Hrafnsson needs more vowels.
Maybe they were only there to check out some dodgy geysers.
Bobby Fischer died in 2008.
Just in case the Feds hadn't realised.
If you think the FBI left without already having all the info they needed , consider this.
Who knows how many of them stayed after their chummies were sent home ? Don't believe a thing you read or hear in a public news source about secretive organisations.Ain't that a bit of what the lesson left by Wikileaks is about ? This said . Iceland kicking them out could have been part of the plot all along.
Disinformation is just that. Still cheering for Iceland ?
Disinformation is just that. Still cheering for Iceland ?
A new country run for the people by the people, no wonder America hates it, raw nerve...
Desperate for attention
Does anyone actually care about Assange or Wikileaks? the correct answer is: NO