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Apple has slapped an extra 64GB - and a $100 price increase - on its fondleslab range to create the 128GB iPad. An announcement today from Cupertino confirms the device's existence after references to the hardware were found in the newly released iOS 6.1. The new iPad will be available from US Apple stores, the company's website …

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Gimp

Our office Fanboi just exclaimed "That's almost enought to do video processing!"" and dashed off, I think to go order one...

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Wait...

I did a downvote, but were you joking?

I have customers over 70 who need more HDD space than that just to burn their Bluray discs. That's before they even load in the uncompressed master from the camera.

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But you can get a real computer in a tablet for that sort of money - Surface Pro is out shortly....Can't see anyone buying an iPad when you could get one of those instead.

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Re: Wait...

No, not joking. He's fun to watch - said something this morning about an iOS 6.1 jailbreak party this weekend. I've seen him at the lunchroom table with an iPhone, iPad, MacBook of some kind and recently what looks like it could bean iPad mini too, all spread out & interacting with them almost all at once.

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128GB? That's still a little short of the 12TB I have on the machine that I built for video editing.

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Fandroids are off again...

If you don't want it, don't worry about it. For some of the media abusers out there in tablet land, this is a dream product. My 16GB iPad mini does me for reading and generic use (with a tiny bit of video use). For me and many others, it's too much money for what I use it for. To store iTunes, iPlayer, Sky Go stuff, it's the best thing out there for now.

If this was a £700 Samsung/Nexus tablet with 128GB of storage (without SD cards), it would be marked up as the holy grail. Sheeeeesh. The Apple abuse needs to stop and some common sense restored (and black badges dished out to timewasters here).

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With their 23GB of available space out of the 64GB advertised, or 80GB out of 128GB

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But...

I bet you can't slip that in an A4 wallet, or use it for very long on a bus? Duh!

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Mushroom

Doesn't matter which way you slice it

The extra money that Apple charge for iPad's with more storage is a fucking outrage and morally indefensible

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But doesn't Surface Pro come with Windows, and Windows 8 at that?

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Big Brother

23456

Have you seen how many GB you get? Surface my ar*e.

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Re: Doesn't matter which way you slice it

Yawn.

Are you really surprised?

No one should be. This is typical Apple M.O. stuff.

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Shine going off your business?

Rinse your existing customers, they love it!

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Re: Shine going off your business?

How many more years until they announce the first USB port?

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Re: Shine going off your business?

*cough* surface pro *cough*

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Re: Shine going off your business?

How many more years until they announce the first USB port?

About 2 years and they'll claim to have invented it, sparking another patent war.

The first iPadu™ with USB will have 1 USB port and it will cost an extra $100.

The iPadu2™ will be released 6 months later and will have 2 USB ports so $200 extra.

Usable with non apple USB devices only with an adapter. Which will cost $50.

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Mushroom

Re: Shine going off your business?

It will be a special Apple USB port, requiring a $50 cable to operate...

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iPads already have USB

The only problem is that the only things iOS will recognise are USB cameras.

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Re: Shine going off your business?

"How many more years until they announce the first USB port?"

When they've invented it and given it the rounded corners patent treatment of course.

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Re: Shine going off your business?

How many more years until they announce the first USB port?

It will be a special Apple USB port, requiring a $50 cable to operate...

Don't joke about it ... USB only really took off because when everyone was wanting to use FireWire Apple tried to hold out for something like $2 royalty per port when everyone else was agreeing on 50c per device .... so a group split off, took the previously discarded as too slow USB spec, announced plans to bring out a much faster 2.0 version.

So in a real sense Apple did invent the USB port as we know it today ... and part of the reason was their prices!

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Re: iPads already have USB

Not quite true. My iPad would happily recognize my Blue Yeti USB microphone, at least until iOS 5 which determined it used too much power so stopped it working. I understand they still work if connected via a powered USB hub.

My iPad also recognizes my Fender electric guitar when connected via the Rocksmith USB cable.

I'm guessing that's no coincidence, both likely presenting themselves as similar USB audio devices. Anyway, with a USB adapter, there are other devices that can work with an iPad.

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"without needing their old PCs"

If Apple would just include a keyboard, mouse (a real mouse, not an apple mouse), 22" monitor, and a gigabit network jack (for when the wireless is down) for that $799, then it might be a good substitute for my old PC.

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

They really need to add a mouse, any mouse, or supporting the Apple trackpad, and a proper Excel replacement would be nice too.

Numbers is Okish but not good enough to be called an Excel replacement.

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

Yeah, I was wondering who would be doing CAD and 3D design on an iPad of all things.

Plus, how are we transferring that 128GB onto it? Oh that's right, via wireless (pffft) or a USB2/iTunes combo. Great, get right on that.

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

Even if you could get a decent 3D design package running with only touch-screen controls, surely the puny mobile CPU and GPU would be more of a hindrance than the storage available?

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

I'm looking forward to sub-month frame render times when Adobe finally release a version of AfterEffects for the iPad.

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

How many people do 3d design on their desktop PC with discrete graphics card?

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

"How many people do 3d design on their desktop PC with discrete graphics card?"

Only those with a lot of spare time for thumb twiddling :)

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Re: "without needing their old PCs"

Probably got more grunt than the crusty 3.2Ghz P4s some of the design people here were using until very recently. I'm sure I've seen some 1.8Ghz Core 2 Duos around still, albeit with Quadro graphics cards.

There are likely still some ThinkPad T43s around with 1.6Ghz Pentium-Ms, slower that the Atom Z2460 in my phone.

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"Taking a pot shot at the ailing desktop computer market, Apple marketing veep Phil Schiller suggested iPad owners could use the extra space on their tablets to store all their work and media without needing "their old PCs”.

Yup they sure could store 128Gb data in their 128Gb iPad or a 128Gb USB key.

What's that? I hear yells of... "it's much more than a storage device".

Yes it is, one can watch movies on it, browse the Internet, listen to music and buy software from Apple with it.

The iPad like all tablets is a toy and not a serious computing device. There is a reason I use a laptop and a desktop for work and a tablet as a media player and a browser.

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But naturally you're not willing to tell us what that reason is or make any other arguments beyond a bare statement of your position?

It would seem to me that the use case Apple cite — AutoCAD — is quite real, even if rare; designs often need to be shown at sites and in meetings. Tablets (including but not limited to the iPad) have fully functional office suites for 95% of computer productivity tasks and have or are acquiring a bunch of the more specialist software, like Mathematica, DICOM viewers, first draft video editors, etc.

Tablets are serious computing devices, including the iPad.

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Re-ThornH

You can't be serious! As an ex CAD draughtsman, the iPad comes in as the equivalent as the back of a fag packet, against a full size drawing board. Marginally OK for showing pictures, so long as you don't want to see detail. As for meetings, you'd probably get more attention by passing round a picture of a pin-up

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Tablets are serious computing devices...

...including the iPad

Yeah, if you consider surfing, updating facepalm and tweeting as 'serious computing'. LOL

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Re: Tablets are serious computing devices...

They have Garageband and NanoStudio plus countless other music tools.

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Re: Re-ThornH

If you are on-site and want to record measurements, a fondleslab could be useful. Likewise if you are with your customer and want to show some design ideas, you could use a fondleslab, though I suspect traditional dead-tree paper might be better because you can leave it with them.

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Paris Hilton

equivalent as the back of a fag packet

There's a market here for the fag industry - cig branded tablets!

Bloke in pub: "Mate, I'll show you that new dodad I knocked up in AutoCAD on my 20GB Benson & Hedges GoldPad"

Could even have an e-cig cum stylus accessory to go with it!

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Re: Tablets are serious computing devices...

LOL.

My mate came round my house last week to show me his latest 'really great computer'. When he arrived he opened his bag and pulled out an iPad...so he could show me photos of it. :-)

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I thought you would be

smart enough to work it out. OK I will tell you.

VM web server and database server for web development. Vector and bitmap graphics editing, SD/HD video and music production. Multiple applications running at once without the system choking or having to wait for a context switch.

A tablet is not a serious computing device even if all the productivity software in the world was ported to iOS or Android. I am sure that with a couple of more years development they will be powerful enough to be taken as serious computing devices.

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Bullshit

fondleslabs are toys, fit only for management.

Autocad is a resource hog (justifiably... maybe!) you _can_ run it on a single core chip with a gig of ram, but if your 'designs' are more than a line with 2 squirkles then forget it.

if i need to show my designs at site/in a meeting i plug an hdmi cable in the lappie and bung it up on 50 inch lcd hanging on the wall - where everyone can see it, not just the blokes/blokettes to my immediate left and right. if theres no LCD, i can bring a projector, or we can move the meeting to a location with proper facilities.

My <PH>boss on the other hand, is more than happy playing irritated poultry on his fondleslab, away from the sharp end where he cant do any damage.

cad on a 9" slab - MY ARSE!

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Re: I thought you would be

@adnim, I take it then that you never go to meetings? I use mine to take notes, give presentations and for data input while interviewing users about how they use their computers. Important though you clearly are, you are a tiny TINY minority in terms of use case for business computing and as such I suggest you add the caveat that it's not a serious computing device for you.

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Re: Bullshit

"Autocad is a resource hog (justifiably... maybe!) you _can_ run it on a single core chip with a gig of ram, but if your 'designs' are more than a line with 2 squirkles then forget it."

when i was in college, we had autocad running on a "tower" server, which was a 486-DX, 270MB hdd and i do not remember how much ram.

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Re: I thought you would be

> I use mine to take notes

Sounds like a palm pilot from the early 90s. It's a media consumption device.

If your use case doesn't sound like "media consumption", then it's going to be a disaster.

Sure, there are business reasons to do "media consumption". That doesn't make your glorified ipod a serious computing device. It makes it a slightly more portable take on a VHS player.

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FAIL

If I could run Cadence software ...

on iCrap, there would be difficulties running the traces.

With a PC and a mouse - no sweat.

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Re: Re-ThornH - @G R Goslin

I come from a family of draughtsmen. My Uncle was one of the first to use CAD in the UK. They ran an 8 user system off of a single Univac mini with 64K words of RAM, and used it to design oil rigs. There's plenty of capacity in an iPad to render CAD files (it's got about the same CPU/GPU oomph as a Windows box from 5-10 years ago, and they were more than powerful enough to run the likes of CATIA)

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Re: equivalent as the back of a fag packet

What's a 'cum stylus'??

Paris might know.

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Re: Bullshit

486 dx/(100? 66?), so that's about 1995 - prolly 8Mb ram max

that would be autocad r18

comparing that to acad2013 is like comparing dos to vista.

try running vista on an XT with Hercules grafix

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Re: Re-ThornH - @G R Goslin

Great, so you can run software from 5-10 years ago.

Believe it or not, CAD software doesn't just use that extra CPU power and RAM for "bloat" - it hasn't stood still for 10 years. Yes sure, you could use an overpriced underpowered ipad to run CAD software that was cutting edge in 2002, or you could use a real computer and have the latest technology and functionality.

(And if you really want a tablet that's high end and can do what a real PC can do, they're the ones with x86 inside.)

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Re: I thought you would be

@Lusty

It seems you are one of those people who's job consists of going to meetings, giving presentations, and inputting data for reports nobody will ever read.

We have many people at my workplace that complete these dubious tasks. We have no idea what their purpose is or why they are paid comparably to skilled engineers.

Productive work is done on a desktop/laptop, no amount of prancing around with a tablet will change that.

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Re: Tablets are serious computing devices... @AC

It's cheap to criticise; how would you define your anointed 'serious computing'? I can think of no distinction that doesn't either bar all computers more than about five years old (ie, based on processing capacity) or deign that only about 2% of the world takes part.

My feeling is that — even if you exclude leisure browsing — as tablets can do at least 90% of what people use computers for, they are computers. Just like an oven without a hob is still a kind of oven, a two-seater car is still a kind of car, a light aircraft is still a kind of aircraft, Heat is still a kind of magazine and Vin Diesel is still a kind-of actor.

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Paris Hilton

Re: What's a 'cum stylus'??

Maybe its a sausage- wern't actual sausages used as styluses by folk in Korea or something a while back on capacitive touch screens phones? Or did I dream that?

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