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The word making its way around Wall Street is that Michael Dell's plan to take the company that bears his name private through a leveraged buyout has stalled because of the competing interests of private equity firm Silver Lake, which is ponying up a big piece of the cash to do the deal, and current Dell shareholders who want …

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WTF?

Are you joking?

No business is going to use Google Chrome. It's unsafe to store your files on the cloud.

Just ask the people hit by Hurricane Sandy who sat without electricity for two weeks - when the power is out, cloud storage is no storage.

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Re: Are you joking?

After a couple days of no power your laptop doesn't work well either. But at that point you can move your critical people to where the power and network are - if their data and services are in the cloud.

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Re: MS are committing commercial suicide!

"No longer to be trusted"?

Where have you been? MicroSoft lost trust years ago! And anyone that had trust lost it recently when MS decided to enter the tablet market.

What we've got here is MS has a crap new OS that it blames computer makers for not being as good as they think it should. we've got Dell, cheap maker of PCs (Hell, even Register states them as that!) feeling the times of the "tablet era".

Put both together, and you will have....... another surface tablet....made by Dell.

The only ones to suffer will be AlienWare, who makes good gaming PCs but are owned by Dell.

Where will an Alienware PC be with Windows 8?

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Re: Are you joking?

Yup, hire car + food + petrol for critical staff to get to power is cheaper than trying to dry out your on site storage.

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@Eadon

"This strategy by MS will fail. There isn't room for two Apple's on this planet, and MS do not have the strategy to out-compete Apple."

I hope you do realize that Dell provides more than merely consumer PC's? From personal experience I can say that their servers and business customer support are pretty good.

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Re: Are you joking?

That would work only if you're a pure IT company. If you're not, and you manufacture/sell products the real world, it may be not that easy.

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Re: Are you joking?

problem is, WHERE is the server that has your cloud data??? if it has no power, you have no data... if their HDDs crashed badly during {{insert natural disaster, etc here}} then a lot of your data is gone....

If it is stored on a local external HDD, no need for network, etc...

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Re: MS are committing commercial suicide!

Oooh! A post from Eadon without the two words 'Microsoft' and 'Fail' juxtaposed. Oh, wait...

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Maybe Dell just doesn't understand customers anymore?

When I read about the declining use of desktop PC's, I often wonder if fewer people are actually using them, or if more people have simply taught themselves to build their own rigs or upgrade the towers that sit beside their desks? The last time I bought a desktop outright was about 1998. Since then I've built several, and usually have a few around that I'm upgrading or modifying.

The main reasons I do this are: 1. it's easy to teach yourself; 2. I got so sick and tired of HP and Dell and Sony and IBM and others sticking me with overpriced proprietary components, when the standard gear at the local electronics shops were often 1/4 the price or less and worked as well or better.

If a company like Dell were to begin selling laptops that were truly upgradable with standard, affordable off-the-shelf parts, I'll bet their sales would take off again.

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Re: Maybe Dell just doesn't understand customers anymore?

sure if your into computers, an upgradable pc/laptop/tablet from a big name brand with full warranty sounds great. Everyone else just wants to use the web (shop, bank, book tickets etc), check their mail & read and produce documents. i'm now wishing i got my 74 year old dad a chrome book instead of the cheap samsung i3 from pc world that came with win8 (purchased the first week of win8 availability). having never experienced the crap that is win 8 i had 4 hours to make it look as much like win 7 so he could take it abroad with him. the problems are now compounded that hotmail has changed to outlook and he can't find out how to forward mail as buttons have all changed. remotely supporting a piece of crap win8 laptop is no fun (yes i have remote access to it & yes he has an iPad). a touch interface on a non touch laptop via a remote session is hell. I think the real problem is that M$ don't understand their end customers and force this crap on their OEM's. OEM's need a consumer friendly OS

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Re: Maybe Dell just doesn't understand customers anymore?

> If a company like Dell were to begin selling laptops that were truly upgradable with standard, affordable off-the-shelf parts, I'll bet their sales would take off again.

No, they'll lose sales to some Chinese shop on ebay.

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Re: Maybe Dell just doesn't understand customers anymore?

The desktop PC is declining or simply upgrade cycles are getting longer, especially when economy is in trouble? If you're a single user, or a very small company, you can build/upgrade your own PCs. If you're a bigger company, you can't - because you can't let your employees put their hands inside company equipment (not everybody is able, moreover you may be liable if something bad happens and the employee was not qualified to perform the task),and you may not want to hire technicians to perform that job. My home computer is custom built, but my office one is a Dell Precision - we have a good deal with Dell so prices are not so bad.

You should understand why laptops don't use standard, affordable, off-the-shelf parts: there's no way to build one such way and make it small and light - you would end up with a large, heavy, ugly laptop - and no one would but it.

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Ubutnu Systems

Time for Mark Shuttleworth to invest and start ramping up Ubuntu systems.

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Re: Ubutnu Systems

First, Ubuntu has to get their collective head out of their ass. Amazon.com anyone? Unity??

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Holmes

It's hard to believe that private equity firms are any kinder or gentler than Wall Street

SOP: borrow loads of money; buy firm; load firm with your debt; charge firm mega fees for loading it with debt; profit!; let the suckers take the pain when it all goes pear shaped.

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re hire car + food + petrol

another model is bottled water + ammunition.

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Dell??

Dull!!

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Surprise...

Company with mediocre desktops, rebadged asus laptops, craptastic servers and shite customer support can't figure out how to take their company private in a sensible manner. Yawn.

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Not the first to suggest...

That Michael Dell wind up the company and return the money to its shareholders...

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Microsoft mentioned a lot?

That's eight mentions of Microsoft on the main page .. and three mentions of Windows ...

Oh, look an advert for a Chromebook and a Google Nexus at the top ...

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Re: Microsoft mentioned a lot?

That's eight mentions of Microsoft on the main page .. and three mentions of Windows ...

And all but one of them deeply negative.

Hard to see, for example, how MS offering $Bn as part of a $22Bn buyout can be seen as "stalling" that buyout as the headline suggests and the article tries really hard to justify.

Oh, look an advert for a Chromebook and a Google Nexus at the top ...

Licking the hand that feeds The Register...

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Re: Microsoft mentioned a lot?

I've just installed linux mint on a test box.

The sheer amount of proprietary closed-source crap in this "open" system is mindboggling, especially on the media side. Exactly why do you keep pimping it?

Troll - unfed.

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Re: Microsoft mentioned a lot?

I've been using debian since 1996, Eadon. Just as Bruce Perens took over as project lead, actually.

I doubt if you were out of nappies back then.

In any case, my question is why you, who trumpets the benefits of "open" at every available opportunity and quite a few that aren't (Astronomy? Really? wtf is wrong with you?) , continually recommend a distro which has more closed and commercial components than any other distro I can think of.

I doubt if you'll answer because I doubt if panicking and typing "help convince Mint open" into Wikipedia will be of much use to you now.

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Re: Re: Microsoft mentioned a lot?

"Licking the hand that feeds The Register"

Good grief. Search for Google. We've said plenty of rude things about them.

C.

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Re: Microsoft mentioned a lot?

@Chris - You have to be able to take it if you're going to dish it out

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Both Dell and HP have lost sight of what they really are and that is or at least should be bulk hardware manufacturers. Perhaps Michael Dell can breath some of this back into Dell - I sure hope so.

Dell - where did your online / direct sales only model go? Why compete with yourself with resellers? What happened to the original affordable quality? Why do I get reseat CPU errors on £8k servers?! Why do our Desktops PSUs and GPUs die so quickly?

HP - What truly innovative tech have you created yourself recently? Why kill of Palm? Oops you lost a few £billion

Like them or loath them though (I work with both on a daily basis) kit would not be cheap as it is without them, but I wonder is cheap really worth the cost? I think I wandered subject. But anyway good luck Dell and I hope things get better

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Mission Accomplished

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the DOJ and Justice Jackson for excellent handling of the Microsoft antitrust proceedings and the application of the settled upon remedies. Due to your outstanding achievements in the field of excellence we will never again have to worry about Microsoft stifling competition through unfair, immoral and downright illegal business practices.

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Re: MS are worried

Maybe. But unlikely. Business would make up a large portion of Dell's sales. And business IT tends to be afraid of users complaining about change.

Of course there's this thing MS keep doing, but apparently drastic interface "improvements" aren't change.

I'd love to see Dell tell MS to shove it, but it ain't gonna happen any time soon.

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Did this Eadon fellow witness his parents being murdered by Microsoft? He is rather obsessed.

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@Spoddyhalfwit

I've decided he's just trolling and stopped responding to him or even downvoting him any more. (Anything he says that is actually right is generally what's been said by everyone else for years, so doesn't really merit an upvote.) Happy to vote on/dicsuss posts about him, though. He's kind of reassuring, in a couple of ways. i) No matter how bad things look, you could be as angry as Eadon (and I thought *I* was bad in that regard. He seems to be sniper rifle in clock tower material.) ii) If you see an article about Microsoft, when he posts you know the world is ticking along OK. OK, bringing MS into discussions about astronomy, for example, is a bit out there but - hey, that's our Eadon!

On a more serious and charitable note, perhaps he has Aspergers? Obsession with one particular subject, serious social deficiencies ...

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