Windows growth keeps Microsoft earnings relatively stable
Microsoft's latest quarterly financial results are a mixed bag: good performance from the Windows division, but overall profits down slightly. Redmond's revenues for the quarter are $21.46bn, with an operating income of $7.77bn and profits of $6.38bn – which, while down nearly 4 per cent, is still a sizeable chunk of change. …
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Look at her burn!!
oh wait... looks like windows and ms are doing fine..
preemptive post
blah blah anti-ms rant, blah blah, must be fixing the figures... nobody like windblows 8... money must have come from some monopoly... blah blah company will be gone by this time next year......
I think that just about covers it.
Re: preemptive post
You forgot M$ and incoherent rants at Ballmer.
Re: preemptive post
Not just incoherent rants at Ballmer, but deeply personally abusive incoherent rants at Ballmer.
Fix it
The problem is the Metro UI.
The answer is just make metro for touch screen and wear ever that UI would work best
They should just take it as a lesson that Metro won't be good for a business or average PC user without a touchscreen. After they accept that fact they have to take Windows 8 and even if it takes 6 months they need to either remove Metro or disable it permanently and then come out and call it the new revamped windows 8 or something to let people know it's more like windows 7 and it is not Metro anymore.
They'd sure sell a hell of a lot more PC's with the regular desktop environment.
Re: Fix it
Yeah Microsoft, just take the fact that you just posted RECORD REVENUES as a lesson that NOBODY likes Metr...wait...what..?
Sizeable Chunk?
Interesting perspective - apparently MS's $6.38bn profit is a sizeable chunk compared to Apple's smidgen profit of $13.1bn?
Re: Sizeable Chunk?
That would be $6.3 billion from software rather than consumer electronics, you're comparing Apples with, err, Microsofts.
Barf..
I am developing s solid dislike for the BS that always surrounds figures, but I guess if you took away the hyperbole Ballmer wouldn't have much to say. I certainly wouldn't go near the words "exciting" and "enthusiastic" in this context, but I guess "desperate" doesn't go so well with trying to retain share value..
Re: Barf..
The spew that issues from Ballmer's pie hole never fails to delight!
Accounting Tricks
MS can manipulate the figures, but we're seeing falling profits, one quarter there was a loss due to a write down. (There will be another write down over Skype).
The ship is gradually sinking now. There is no sign that MS can recover from its problems. It cannot grow its cash cows, which are long in the tooth. All it can do is milk its enterprise and government customers with WAY above inflation licence increases. As happened last year. They will be looking to escape the lock-in.
Munich saved 11 billion and counting on moving away from Microsoft to Linux. People have taken note.
MS's new Windows, Win 8, is unpopular. It's Win Pho 7 / 8 strategy has spectacularly failed. It's Surface has failed abysmally. Even ultrabooks are failing, hell even the normal desktop market is going south. (A trend accelerated by mobile computing and Windows 8 being poor).
It's hopeless for MS. Google and Apple are powerful now, IBM are doing fine. So MS is, for the first time, having to compete on merit, especially when the dam of its desktop OEM monopoly finally bursts. Then it's GAME OVER.
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God you really are prick Eadon.
Windows doing fine thank you very much, but business not so well?
Well as Server 2012 is pretty new, Lync 2013 has just been released and Office 2013 is due, you'll see the business department picking up over the next half.
Tou may be able to get 2010 the upgrade to 2013 for free (yes Eadon upgrade for FREE), many will still wait as they won't want to do a double roll out.
Oh an Munich was 11 MILLION you prat..
Oh and on the flip side, let's be balanced after all.
"Munich's experience sharply contrasts with that of Freiburg, another German city that ventured down the open source path. Last week its city council decided to dump a combination of an outdated version of OpenOffice and Microsoft Office 2000 and switch to Microsoft Office 2010.
Compatibility problems and underperforming spreadsheet and presentation programs in the open source office suite aggravated and frustrated employees left the council's hopes for OpenOffice unfulfilled, it said. These were important reasons to contemplate Microsoft Office, which was the only viable option, the council said."
Re: Accounting Tricks
@Eadon: Munich selected the distro they were going to use in April 2005, they still haven't finished their rollout.
Also, when you say billion, you really mean million.
Where do IBM compete with MS in server space or in desktop? They have no desktop OS and AIX is a competitor with Linux, not Windows. Even then, proprietary UNIX is dieing out in favour of Linux and Windows.
Re: Accounting Tricks
@Eadon: amazing how you can pull out stats - admittedly unsupported - when it suits you. I notice you still haven't come back with anything on my little challenge of unit sales for Android in its first two years (2007-2009) compared to WinPhone (2010-2012)...
So as tempting as it is to do the whole "pot, kettle, black" post given that you're talking about manipulating figures and yet may be a factor of 1000 out with your own (according to other posters), all I ask in this case is that you post a link to where you got the 11billion from.
As for my little stats challenge: well, I haven't found anything I'd call reliable for the first two years unit sales for Windows Phone yet, but for Android this I found quite eye-opening...
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@Lost all faith, mea culpla, I should have said million.
Last year CAL licences increaed a whopping 15% and this trend will continue as MS desperately fight to keep losses at bay. "Free" upgrade? Big deal! Linux is free to upgrade and free to use for the first time. Always. (And don't play games confusing licences with support costs, Linux has a much lower TCO).
And why the name calling? You have to resort to name-calling because you know that your argument is Bullshit :)
Re: Accounting Tricks
@AC "Where do IBM compete with MS in server space or in desktop" - IBM competes because it is a vendor of Linux Server systems. Also IBM is behind Eclipse and produces Eclipse-based development tools for Java Enterprise systems, which run best on Linux, and can be developed on Linux desktops - which real engineers prefer.
As for the desktop, MS still has a monopoly here, just about but, speculatively, IBM will likely get behind Google Chrome, which is picking up momentum. IBM was stabbed in the back by MS over OS/2 - they are not likely to forget...
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@RyokuMas - sales of Android - 80% of the market approx. Sales of Windows Phone - 0.2% of the market approx. Vendors are welling Win 7 phones at rock bottom bargain bin prices, so it might be gaining some tiny market share. But no one likes Windows Pho 8 - it is selling in peanuts quantities, despite MS pumping billions into TV advertising and the like.
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@Eadon - IBM are many things, they are a vendor for Linux and Windows servers as well as supplying services for both and many other OSes. I use Eclipse quite often (I actually work for IBM in an engineering role) I couldn't tell you how much more popular Eclipse is than the equivalent MS offering as I haven't used it, however, I wouldn't say that there is a preference in my part of the company for linux workstations. Most of our developers - and by most I mean 28 of 30 - run Windows laptops with Linux in VM, for when they need Linux the other two are vice versa. Our product runs mainly on Linux servers but needs to have agents on many others.
I very much doubt that IBM will get into bed with Google, this is a personal opinion not any form of insider knowledge, but I just can't see it happening. If only for the reason that Google have form for stabbing their partners in the back - They had someone on the board of Apple while the iPhone was being developed, and Google quietly went out and purchased a phone OS company and turned it into an iPhone-alike. Google also have a habit of starting up projects or buying companies where there are serious questions as to the ownership of IP (YouTube, Android for a start), IBM absolutely will not ever allow use of other's IP if there is any hint of doubt about the ownership.
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@Eadon - Of course vendors are selling Windows 7 phones at rock bottom prices, they're the previous version of the phone. Windows 8 phones seem to be a different case...
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@Eadon. You still haven't actually answered his question, you know.
Who cares about MS any more ?
If you can make lost as profit by "creative" financials and putting hight insurance on top of that and balance future imaginery income into current balance - then we are all doing perfect ! MS is like massive bubble in falling
market. The problem is nobody cares - Market has shifted to more attractive options... ohh I shdould say "wrong"
options ;)
...but steam gaming on Linux is brilliant.. and less and less people will need MS for having fun..
There is no need to spend ridiculous amount of money to enjoy it !
Well I reckon secure bios is "very" popular...
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