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As Britain spits out its dinner in disgust after admissions that “beef” burgers sold in some UK supermarkets contain horse DNA, down under in Australia punters can relax because there's now an app for that. Or rather for proving that there's no horse cantering about beneath the golden arches. Stung by criticism it is a rapacious …

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Devil

To be honest...

..I'd rather eat a kilogram of horsemeat than anything from Macdonalds..

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Their beef products are fine. They cleaned up their act a long time ago and are very aware all eyes are on them.

The chicken nuggets on the other hand.......

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Meh

Please

Has anyone actually found real meat in a McDonalds burger?

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"Has anyone actually found real meat in a McDonalds burger?" -- No, McDonalds' food main constituents seem to be cardboard and sugar, which they proceed to microwave before your very eyes.

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Re: To be honest...

re "..I'd rather eat a kilogram of horsemeat than anything from Macdonalds.."

I totally agree so long as it as an identifiable cut of meat that hasn't been mechanically recovered and then gone through umpteen stages of processing where lots of non-meat shit like bulking agents , sugar (as a flavour enhancer) , extra salt and christ knows what else could be added.

Since ANY burgers can't meat [sic] the above criteria , I just think I'll avoid 'em.

Now where can I get a horse-steak ?

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Re: Please

It may not be the waitrose braised beef that you lot are used to, but an occasional Maccy Ds is like listening to cheesy pop.

You know you shouldn't, and that no good can come of it, but it feels right for a short while :)

(Of course in itself should be an occasional treat, and should not lead to, as I observed one parent, a McFlurry being offered as a reward for eating a happy meal!)

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Re: To be honest...

Let me fix that:

"...and are very aware all eyes are on in them."

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"Now where can I get a horse-steak ?"

My local supermarket has 'em. Never tried horse, but it *looks* like an okay piece of meat, once you get over the fact that the French seem to colour it a shocking red, and then proceed to show it what fire is and then tell you it is cooked...

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Re: To be honest...

Where do you live?

I want to buy horsemeat as it is tasty but I've never seen it for sale in the UK. I always bring some back with me when I go on holiday in France.

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I used to work for a company that supplied the meat to McDonalds. It's composed of two grades; 75VL & 85VL (VL = "Visually Lean")

This meat was all from the forequarter of the beef animal; flank, clod, shin. These are the cheaper cuts of meat as people prefer the hindquarters, but it is still very good meat (I really like a nice piece of brisket). All of the farms where the animals were raised had to reach really high standards; and they keep an astonishing amount of data on them. They are able to track each of the animals back through their ancestry for many generations; they know what they have been fed and what medical treatment they have received and this information is kept for years.

They take the two grades of meat and then mix them together in what is effectively a giant mincer to produce an homogenised product; so each burger should taste the same. BTW, the flavour comes from the fat, not from the flesh. Personally, I would rather eat the meat before they mash it all up; along with some vegetables and gravy. But that's just my personal preference.

(BTW, I'm not the one that downnvoted you; I do have a sense of humour; warped perhaps, but I don't see why you should be downvoted for making a joke)

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Honest truth I read that as, "all eyes are IN them"!

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Re: The chicken nuggets on the other hand.......

Their chicken nuggets are fine. They cleaned up their act a long time ago and are very aware all eyes are on them.

The filet o' fish on the other hand.......

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The Irish live beef market is very well regulated. A farmer I know had one of his cattle crushed by another in the shed whilst they are in during the winter. They kept the animal separate for a little while but he deteriorated and was dead after a few days. I figured he'd be able to sell him for beef. Nope. He had to pay the vet to produce a cert and pay a fee for a registered disposal of the carcass. So a fairly large investment lost. Technically there was nothing wrong with the animal but they have to be able to walk into the abattoir to their own death......

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It's not McDonalds that microwave their burgers. Burger King do however.

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Actually, the by far most popular fast food place in my town specialises in horse burgers. And boy, are they delicious.

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Horse is fine but it's all about when, why, how and where the horse died.

The English do not eat horse, they say, but as I have never seen a graveyard for horses, not many anyway, I think they are not telling the truth or they spoil dogs and cats.

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I had some horse the other day

And some whizz, and some shrooms...

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Back in the 80`s, I recall seeing a cow stumbling and falling about in the yard of a local farm. The farmer just killed it and sent it into the food chain. I remember him saying that a few of his cows behaved like this and he had no idea why and presumed it had got brain or nerve damage from falling or fighting. It was only later that we found out about bse, I bet the farmer shat himself knowing how many infected cattle he put on peoples plates. Hindsight eh.

As for Mickey d`s, Apart from the creepy paedoclown mascot and dodgy business practices, i always asumed their food was just average quality with loads of salt added to fuel the demand for shakes and cola`s.

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Really? They ship them live you know.... They don't drop them dead in the farm yard and then decide to drag 600+ kgs of dead animal up the ramp of the truck....

PS - A cow has been a mother so she makes milk. You wouldn't want to eat cow as it's as tough as old boots.

I think you might mean bullock (boy with it's ball pipes crushed) or heifer (girl that hasn't had a calf)....

Rem that Boddington's advert from years back? It was a cow (girl) with udders, drinking pints talking like a bloke. Someone didn't do their homework as how many blokes have mammary glands......?

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@ Sir Wiggum

"You know you shouldn't, and that no good can come of it, but it feels right for a short while :)"

You reminded me of an old joke I remember from my high school days:

Q: Why is jerking off like going to McDonalds?

A: Because it's always the same and afterwards you always say you'll never do it again.

Ok, ok, I'm going...

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"I want to buy horsemeat as it is tasty but I've never seen it for sale in the UK. I always bring some back with me when I go on holiday in France."

I'd like to try it, I had a zebra burger at a local agricultural show last year and that was really nice. I really don't understand why it's near impossible to get anything even slightly out of the ordinary in the uk. I have a local restaurant that has all sorts in its buffet, ostrich, crocodile, kangaroo, and everyone always enjoys them, but you can't really get it yourself.

One of my friends went to Thailand and managed to "lose" masses of his Facebook "friends" by posting that he'd tried dog and enjoyed it.

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Agree with Magister. Many years ago our local food standards bod revealed the quality of MacD and said it was the only big chain burgers he'd allow his kids to eat as it was quality stuff. I'd rather not eat any fast food but when hungry and in a hurry I head for MacD, not the others.

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"It's not McDonalds that microwave their burgers. Burger King do however."

I don't know why you got downvoted for that. I have been to a service station Burger King, and the staff literally did microwave my already-cooked burger. They then proceeded to charge me the best part of £8 for it (along with some cold chips and watered down Fanta). Soggy isn't an adequate word for the mush I got in that box. Needless to say, sandwiches have been packed on every long journey since then.

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Just too few elephants in England, no problem with dogs, however. But what you eat is really much about religion not about taste. Had some dog, very upset, not by the taste but by the knowledge afterwards. "Nice" way to spoil ones dinner. Surprise your neighbors.

Trying to return to sanity, the real problem is to know how many El Reg units of antibiotics and other stuff those poor souls have had before being dumped into your stomach.

One of the things, within the EU, that worries me, is that we have some 500 additional stuff accepted to be added to even kangaroo meat, while those who are supposed to, by the EU, check if it is a good idea or not, are allowed to deal with only some 10 percent of that. And I am not joking at all. Superb lobbying by those who produce all that stuff.

And Sooty, tell your friend he did not lose masses of friend on FB as friends on FB is just an illusion.

I would be very happy if my wife finally lost all her "friends" on FB as I am totally fed up with all the birthdays.

Please Chokenberg, consider the fact that there is only some 365 days for birthdays during the whole damned year, year after year.

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Of course, able to track the animals back through generations, records of what they are fed and any injections are things any commercial farm is obliged to do. You should see the stuff you need to record for PIGS!

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So maccles has 100% beef in their burgers, instead of rusk, fillers and other shit - so that's bad how exactly?

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It depends on where you are. When we lived in NW London there was an Aussie butchers in Finchley Central that did roo and croc and stuff. Up here in Scotland there are local places that stock will ducks, pheasant, partridge, quail, rabbit etc. I got a partridge on short date from the local Sainsbury's last week, seasoned it, browned it lightly in butter, the stuck it and the butter in the oven for 15min before pouring the butter and juices over the top as a sauce. It was delicious.

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Re: Please

"Really? They ship them live you know.... They don't drop them dead in the farm yard and then decide to drag 600+ kgs of dead animal up the ramp of the truck...."

If your refering to my stumbling cow , the farmer sometimes supplied meat to the local community directly, he slaughtered onsite (not in the farmyard mind, he had a nice shed for the purpose) and offloaded it to locals by word of mouth in the pub or the farmers market etc.

hmm, 3 thoughts spring to mind, 1) is it even legal to do that? 2) Did he sell to the locals because he knew the slaughterhouse wouldnt take an obviously sick animal? and 3) I probably ate some of his produce back in the day, bugger.

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Rem that Boddington's advert from years back? It was a cow (girl) with udders, drinking pints talking like a bloke. Someone didn't do their homework as how many blokes have mammary glands......?

Depends if they've been drinking a lot of beer.

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@Sooty

>>One of my friends went to Thailand and managed to "lose" masses of his Facebook "friends" by posting that he'd tried dog and enjoyed it.

I bet you've tried Sweep and enjoyed it.

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I like the description in the "Wide Window".

McD is somewhere to go when cold & wet or need a loo and no where else is in sight.

"Happy Meals". Hmmm fail on both words.

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In Pursuit of Happiness

True happiness lies

Beyond your Fries and Happy Burgers

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Isn't that a Roy Rogers song?

(singing)

Happy meals to you, until we meat again;

Happy means to you, you never know just when,

That the stuff that they put in the burger

Might stop you from asking much further;

Happy meals to you, Trigger's in the blend!

I'll get my coat...

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Wheres the option...

No option for feeling worse!

I could be disgusted to learn that my McD's isn't ultra processed meat! How else will my hangover be cured?!

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Beef

In the UK at least, McDonalds burgers are one of the best quality you'll get from a standard fast food joint. All the beef is British or Irish with no fillers. Contrary to what people believe, they aren't sourcing cheap meat from Brazil either.

They also don't use Halal slaughter. Not that I'm saying they shouldn't offer a Halal option for those that want it, but I don't want it as a default for everyone.

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> or Irish with no fillers.

Apart from the horsemeat, you mean?

As one commenter on another newspaper put it, the horseburger scandal gives a new slant on "My Lidl Pony" :)

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Re: Beef

Would you guys stop horsing around with all these puns?

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"All the beef is British or Irish with no fillies."

Fixed that for you.

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Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh!

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Would you guys stop horsing around with all these puns?

Neigh, we will not

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All the beef is British or Irish

What McD's advertise is "100% {Irish|British} Beef". i.e. the beef is is 100% {Irish|British}, not that the burger is 100% beef. It's the other 86% what worries me.

I prefer burger king anyway

Paris, she'll know it its 100% real meat.

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Vegetarians were close, but they had it backwards

Turns out

Meat is Red Rum

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...that one just made my day

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It's no good for you as it's all full of Shergar

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I don't want to start sounding like a Ronald McDonald shrill, but they don't use any fillers or additives in their burgers (other than seasoning). Not even a binding agent. They bind the burgers by holding them at near freezing point before deep freezing them. Quite clever really (speaking as someone who makes homemade burgers that always fall apart).

All this information is out there. Next we'll have people posting urban legends about a friend of a friend who found a whole eyeball in their burger!

The places you do want to worry about are the cafes, restaurants and stalls who just buy the catering equivalent of the Tesco Value burger. Beef content in these can be very low and they are bulked out with crap. Next time you smell the burger van outside the DIY store, go and ask them if they can tell you the beef content of their burgers. Let alone where the beef has come from!

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When making a beef burger all I do is finely chop an onion, add herbs/seasoning and the mince then mix well (by hand). Then you take a pattie sized lump and sort of slap it back and forth between your hands a couple of dozen times or so. Do not add egg or breadcrumbs. Then fry/grill.

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Nothing wrong

with eating horse meat (unless you are on a kosher diet, that is). In fact, it's a required ingredient for some of the best salamis in the world...

Proper Italian salami should have some donkey meat - how about that? Never heard anyone complaining...

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