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Playboy - the world's best-known porn brand - has been fined £100k ($160k) by Britain's communications regulator, after the publisher failed to prevent children from accessing smutty material on its websites. Ofcom said that Playboy TV and Demand Adult had "allowed users to access hardcore videos and images without having …

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So does this apply to ANY website that lets you go to pornography without putting in a credit card number.

Because that must be, what? 20-30% of the Internet? Alright, most won't have a UK base to be fined in the first place, but hell - that's a very, very lax interpretation that affects millions of websites.

I don't know of anyone who uses pornography regularly who actually PAYS for it at all, let alone would even trust their card to be used on the sites they visit. And yet, they are not breaking the law in doing so themselves, but the websites are for not demanding a credit card number?

Just seems like a way to cut all pornography being accessed from the UK worldwide, and getting a lot of people scammed when they MUST enter their credit card details "in order to verify their age".

Honestly, that appears to be something far more overreaching that it at first appears.

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I tend to agree with you that there's more to this than meets the eye. This is just the start of them coming for the porn.

If anything, they should be relaxing the draconian UK laws on R18 content, not increasing them. In the UK, the only way to legally buy R18 porn is either from licenced sex shops in person or to import it yourself from abroad. Yet, it has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe, despite other countries in Europe having a much more relaxed attitude towards R18 content. So it's obvious that they're barking up the wrong tree and censorship is a waste of time.

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Coming soon...

Mother fined £12k for not locking bathroom door causing little Jimmy to cop an eyeful when he accidentally walked in for a pee.

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Err?

You can see pretty much anything which is legal to see (ie: Not animals or underage) in r18 porn. I'm not sure that it should be supplied outside of sex shops, it's available from web sites by streaming or delivery in UK/EU and the world over, so I don't really see that as a problem. However, I'm not sure why you think that supplying porn will have any effect, particularly a positive effect, on the levels of UK teenage pregnancy. I would have thought, if anything, the availability of "consequences free" sex, ie: kids see sexual images and activity, albeit not too explicit, everywhere, they don't see people getting pregnant, getting STIs, being upset because of relationship breakup, etc.

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Re: Err?

"I'm not sure why you think that supplying porn will have any effect, particularly a positive effect, on the levels of UK teenage pregnancy."

Studies in the 1970s showed that various European countries had much lower rates of teenage pregnancy than the UK. The kids in those countries also had a better attitude to doing well at school. The other correlation was that Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, and Germany had liberal attitudes to sex education and also porn.

When formulating the 2003 Sexual Offences Act the body of Westminster MPs, and "morality" vested interests, decided to ignore European liberal examples - and took USA repressive attitudes as "best practice". The USA actually had a worse teenage pregnancy rate than the UK.

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Re: Err?

Not sure there is a link there - the US had far more liberal porn laws, but they didn't have the same level of sex education and openness.

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>> when he accidentally walked in for a pee.

Why would little Jimmy "accidentally" walk into the bathroom for a pee? I could understand if you said he 'accidentally walked into the kitchen for a pee'.

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Re: Err?

"Studies in the 1970s showed that various European countries had much lower rates of teenage pregnancy than the UK. The kids in those countries also had a better attitude to doing well at school. The other correlation was that Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, and Germany had liberal attitudes to sex education and also porn."

How many of those give free money and houses to pregnant teens though,like the UK. I would suggest that the reason we have a higher then average teen pregnancy rate is also as much because we reward getting pregnant, and we are well known to accept the dregs of OTHER societies as our own, including lazy ass scum with nothing to add to their community except babies.

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Re: Err?

You repeat a myth from right wing media, and politics, which you seem to have lapped up entirely. There is no such thing as deserving and undeserving poor, particularly when those poor people have children to look after. What is the state supposed to do, put them in a workhouse?

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Re: Err?

"we reward getting pregnant, and we are well known to accept the dregs of OTHER societies as our own..."

Please fuck off back to the Daily Mail website. Thanks.

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Little Johnny can find hardcore stuff that makes Playboy look tame using Google in three seconds flat.

Type your perversion in, turn safe search off, select videos or images and suddenly all the smut you could ever watch in a life time at your fingertips.

Just shows what a total waste of time these watchdogs are...

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Re: Err?

@ MrZoolook

How many of those give free money and houses to pregnant teens though,like the UK. I would suggest that the reason we have a higher then average teen pregnancy rate is also as much because we reward getting pregnant, and we are well known to accept the dregs of OTHER societies as our own, including lazy ass scum with nothing to add to their community except babies.

So much fail, so little time.

The irony is that these are countries with much more liberal social policies as well.

As for the EBIL IMIGRANT PREGGERS HOWZING TEIFS, well, that is also largely a myth as well.

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This is just the start of them coming for the porn.

Nope, far, far too obvious really.

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Re: Coming soon...

How exactly does one accidently walk in for a pee?

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Its not about the porn

It is just another coöperation between the banks and government to force everybody to pay for a credit card. I dont want one and have no use for one, so I am degaded to a second class citizen with fewer rights then those who pay their credit card "tax"

commercial items should never be a tool for identification or an age check. besides I predict a fast black market economy for credit card details among the youngsters who want to see the modern day equivalent of the rags we used to read before we were 18.

no justice in this ruling once again, the banks dont need pron to be creaming after this one

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£100,000? Yeah, that'll teach em...

It's not even one month's salary of Hugh Hefner:

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/hugh-hefner-net-worth/

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Re: £100,000? Yeah, that'll teach em...

I get the feeling that it's a mere cash grab for an extended annual vacation......

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lol

none of the porn sites i go on need a credit card. If I'm gonna be watching hardcore porn everyday I at least don't want it on my credit report.

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Just in time!

Phew , thats stemmed the flood of internet porn into our youngsters lives.

They're just gonna have to wait till they're 18 now

Job Done

Ofcom saves the day!

And evil multi billion dollar Playboy slinks away nursing wounds after 100K thrashing

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When I were a lad

It certainly seems easier to access this kind of stuff than it was when I was growing up.

Kids don't know how good they've got it.

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Re: When I were a lad

Back in my day, the black bin bag full of porn in the woods always used to ask if you were 18 before it would open...

Given that wherever Scouts go camping there were always bin bags full of porn in the surrounding woods, does that mean that porn grows on trees?

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Re: When I were a lad

When I were a lad I was approached by a taxi driver asking if if I wanted his smut collection - I was on my morning paper round at the time and eagerly stashed the grot mags in my delivery bag.

Back then things were easier, I wouldn't be able to access this sort of filth now as I don't own a credit card.

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Re: When I were a lad

How lucky young boys are... when I was younger you had to go looking through the woods for magzines left behind by some kindly sole... I even knew someone who went to through bins near golf courses... apparently the amount of porn around such locations was so immense that the embarrassment was worth it.

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Re: When I were a lad

Hedgeporn was not the same as what is available on the Internet these days.

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Re: When I were a lad

"some kindly sole".

As in the fish, or the bottom of a shoe?

Answer and your soul will be saved...

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Re: When I were a lad

It had hair for one.

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"Hedgeporn was not the same as what is available on the Internet these days."

You're right. These days porn stars have discovered razors.

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Re: When I were a lad

I've just found a black sack of vintage grot in what was the airing cupboard of the house-converted-to-offices where I work.

AC in case the boss sees this.

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In other news violence and murder are still 100% OK for our yoof to watch.

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"You can get a gun licence at fourteen, but you can't buy a porno magazines until you're eighteen... ...I'd much rather a fourteen year old lad was locked in his bathroom causing no harm to anyone than sat on a roof with a high-powered rifle and an erection he can't get rid of"

- Bill Hicks

The other comedian this article brings to mind is Al Murray 'Pub Landlord', on the subject of asking a young person their data of birth "the test our whole system of age restriction is built upon". I think the film Hot Fuzz riffed upon the ridiculousness of the same idea .

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The UK thankfully is a more restrictive on violence than nudity in general than the USA...

I would much rather my son saw a couple having sex than excessive violence....

Lets make love, not war!

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what about sexual violence

Recent anecdotal evidence has shown that young people who are exposed to porn develop a skewed conception and expectation of sex.

Lets be honest most porn on the net is less about sex then it as about "control" as a form of gratification (after all it is simply prostitution with a camera plonked in front). For most adults this is bleeding obvious but for the less uninitiated this is not. For such youngsters, I fear, it will have a lasting impact on their sexual relationships.

Sorry tried to find the link to a guardian news article that summarised a phenomenon were young people involved in rape or underage sex reported that they were copying what they had seen online. But there js a number of news articles about individual incidents. just google.

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Re: what about sexual violence

Recent anecdotal evidence has shown that young people who are exposed to porn develop a skewed conception and expectation of sex.

My anecdotal evidence is that young people today have the same ability to separate fantasy from reality as previous generations and porn is looked at with that in mind.

Interestingly, less anecdotal evidence shows that despite netpr0n corrupting every young mind, people are generally better disposed to each other, relationships are more equal and sexual assaults are no more prevalent now then they were 20 years ago (and in some UK regions have dropped significantly).

That said there is still an unacceptable rate of offence and woefully inadequate system of dealing with reported offences, but that isnt anything to do with teenaged boys cracking one off to grot. (and amazingly, it seems even some women watch porn as well..... even before we get started on the crap that is 50 Shades of Gray).

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"skewed conception and expectation"

What? They get the expectation that they might enjoy it? They get an idea of mechanically what to expect and how to go about it (I mean more than the crap videos we got at school)?

Conception is another way to say opinion, so is the young peoples opinion skewed or is it yours?

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jesus man!? did you take a course in being an idiot or just some kind of natural savant?

your definition of conception is plain wrong.

If you ask someone with a decent command of english they might point out to you that this discussion is about pornography (staged, artificial, fictitious, stylized representations of the concept of sexual intercourse) as opposed to sexual education material. Then you might understand that my point about the impact that staged, artificial, fictitious, stylized representations of the concept of sexual intercourse has on young people who have little alternative experience to act as a reference point for reality. This has nothing to do with opinion whatsoever.

Unless of course you live in a world where your partner is happy to offer anal intercourse to every delivery man that visits your house. Then yes my opinion is skewed and pron is a great reference tool.

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Hmm.

When i was a lad I had no trouble finding 'naughty' stuff. I wouldn't have a clue were to even begin looking now

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Google?

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OK, hand in your testicles at the door.

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Pint

Replace either the "you" or the "tube" in the popular phrase "youtube" with any sexual noun or verb and you're likely to find something.

Cheers

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You want me to replace my "tube" in what?

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and of course...

The average teenage kid does not know where his parents' credit card(s) live...

Given that it is incredibly easy to access megatons of porn of an endless variety *absolutely free* with at best a warning you may enter a site that could possibly contain adult content, I really wonder about the actual competence of the busybodies doling out those fines. Or what planet they live on, for that matter.

It is a given fact of nature that any reasonably healthy lad* will get interested in tits 'n ass from roughly the age 12 and up. It is also a given fact that said healthy lads *will* find a way to get their hands on materials that will provide a relief for this quite healthy and natural urge. It is also a given fact that any repression of availability of those materials will, in fact, make them seek it out even more, as it coincides with the rebellious streak that is associated with their developing personality, and having access to "the Forbidden Fruit" gives extra Cool Points at that age.

So really, what's the point....

* anecdotal evidence points to girls starting earlier, but with a different focus (in the UK seemingly provided by Boy Bands), but as a male I'm (still) not really fluent enough in Female Reasoning to have a confident opinion in this matter.

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Re: and of course...

One approach might be to allow younger lads access to respectful and tasteful trouser-arousing material, rather than leave them to stumble across the objectifying 'gonzo' stuff.

Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen was on the radio yesterday, saying he used to draw copies of the erotic drawings of Aubrey Beardsley (whose life the programme was celebrating) and sell them to his classmates- and he surely wasn't the first. There are worse artists for a young man to be acquainted with when making conversation with a certain type of young woman. Alphonse Mucha is good, too.

>* anecdotal evidence points to girls starting earlier, but with a different focus (in the UK seemingly provided by Boy Bands),

Or, by making advances at boys their age who haven't quite developed their romantic/sexual feelings yet, leading to mutual confusion. But hey, confusion is what teenage years are for.

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but why are they paying pb....

...when youporn is free?

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Re: but why are they paying pb....

or even redtube (well named that one)

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Re: but why are they paying pb....

Or Pornhub (or so I hear)

Oh, BTW, Porn sites, bit of a waste of time having thos share on facebook widgets don't you think?

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Re: but why are they paying pb....

If it is red have it examined...

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Re: but why are they paying pb....

XHamster even has a dedicated UK section...

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Re: but why are they paying pb....

"XHamster even has a dedicated UK section.." with 'verified by visa' links covering the best bits.

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