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Lenovo will reportedly release Android-based convertibles in the first half of this year, and they'll be powered by your choice of either Intel or ARM processors. Convertibles – clamshell laptops that can be converted to tablets – were one of the most talked about items at last week's CES 2013. Intel, for its part, sees them as …

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

Yes but if you have tried using Android on a desktop or laptop without touch screen its not particularly nice to use and a lot of apps expect you to have a touch screen and don't work correctly with a mouse. Its even worse than using Windows 8 on a desktop pc!

Try it for yourself www.android-x86.org

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

It's about as much use on the desktop as Windows XP was as a tablet OS.

People using desktops generally want commercial productivity applications, Android has none of that and tons of malware.

Not to mention poor enterprise controls, security and restrictions. Plus geeks will install some community version of the OS and bypass all the controls, just what you need, company secrets getting lifted by malware installed because some geek thought it would be a good idea to bypass restrictions.

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

Wasting your time. Fandroids are worse than iTards when it comes to wanting their OS everywhere, regardless of if it will actually do what people want (which is probably a no in 90% of cases).

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

Android on desktop?

Why, just Why? Surely a desktop-orientated Linux distro would be better for the desktop, and Android seems to work well on touch-screen devices. I wouldn't have thought that Android had been designed to work with mouse_over and other mousey commands, let alone keyboard shortcuts (shit, until recently there was one version for phones and one for tablets). Is Eadon seriously suggesting a reverse Win8?

I knew he was an agent provocateur i.e. he's not a real Linux fan at all, because his comments are consistently detrimental to the cause he professes to support.

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

Any restrictions you cannot bypass on Windows?.

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

Sounds like a good proposition to me…

It's about the closest we'll get to actually having a consumer device with mostly standard hardware running Linux, albeit, Android/Linux rather than GNU/Linux.

That said, it shouldn't be difficult to shoehorn a real Linux distribution on there. I'll sit back and wait, but maybe things are starting to turn in our favour. Slowly. :-)

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Re: Tablets to Laptops

I think "convertible" probably means a touchscreen is included.

Using Android on x86 (atom presumably) means you could quite easily replace it with standard linux if you wanted to, or dual boot, but the system can be sold as a fully functional tablet+keyboard.

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Android Apps for productivity?

I'm a fandroid, (Asus Transformer Tab, HTC Incredible, old Vega, old Wildfire) but I'm not a rabid fandroid and I do recognise the shortfalls of Android and am fed up with the creeping permission grabs of app updated, also mightily pissed of with two recent app updates that broke what I regard as essential functionality. (Fortunately, I have the old .apk files backed up onto my laptop, and other places, using the excellent Air Droid application which also installs .apks over WiFi)

What I don't understand is the totally clumsy method of selecting text on the screen. Do Microsoft have some kind of 'patent' on click-hold-drag to highlight? Android has click-hold to get beginning and end markers around a word; click-hold-drag each marker to the start/end of the text you want; press-CntrlC; click the 'done' icon at the top of the screen. (If there's a better way, somebody please tell me.)

Android is great for consuming content, which was probably Google's thinking in the first place, and I now surf the net and type El Reg comments on my Transformer. The cloudy goodness is wonderful with my data appearing on all my devices - I type my shopping list on the Asus Transformer and it appears on my phone, great :) For anything more than typing short text files, I'd want a laptop or desktop every time, running Microsoft Office (or FOSS/Mac/Linux equivalent). I've tried Polaris, it's a pain and has shortfalls.

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Re: Android Apps for productivity?

Curiously, I find the text-select in Android reasonably easy to get on with... its the click-drag-release in desktop browsers that I find idiosyncratic, especially if I want to select a hyperlink as text.

But yeah, Android was never designed for productivity... it might be made to work, but would miss tricks associated with extra human input devices.

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Re: Android Apps for productivity?

I'm a strong advocate of Android but frankly I think most tablets OSes stink for productivity. Apps like word processors are cut to the bone and offer minimal functionality and stuff like printing / saving / importing / exporting / cut / copy / paste is severely limited. What pisses me off the most about android is the lack of printing and the very poor mouse and keyboard support which is most evident if you have a transformer like I do.

One of the few things working in Windows RT's favour is it does have a proper office suite and keyboard / mouse support. But I think RT is so half baked in other ways that if I were after a proper desktop / tablet I would hold out for a proper Windows 8 device to arrive. I expect before the year end there will be tablets for less than $500.

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Re: Android Apps for productivity?

I wonder how difficult it'll be to rip the Android drivers out of these and use them in a proper, grown-up OS... perhaps little Debian/Fedora/*buntu based projects will pop up to do it for us.

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Chromebook, Chromebook, Chromebook

nuff said

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>nuff said

Sorry, but could you expand upon that?

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>Hasn't happened – and it's still to early to add "yet" to that observation.

That was an observation from 2010. Six months back Intel volunteered that they didn't expect to really have an edge over ARM for another two generations of chip.

We’re not yet certain how Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800 compare to their predecessors in that regard, but we do find it interesting that Intel is the only company eager to illustrate the power of its designs in a lab setting.

- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/atom-z2760-qualcomm-apq8060a-tegra-3-battery-life,3403-6.html

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Wow man, just wow

"The display is a 1366x768 IPS panel "

I won't lecture anyone, I am speechless this time. I was saying if I buy x86 portable, it would be lenovo.

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Re: Wow man, just wow

Hearing you dude. That has blown my mind too man! Blown it right back to the 1990s. Man! WOW!

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Media Consumption and Media Generation

Have a Razr i and Nexus 7, great for media consumption but when I want to get serious and type more than a line or two it's back to good old Windows it will be that way for a while I think. VDI and BYOD will keep Windows dominant in the corporate space for sometime even if Android (access mine on my Nexus from time to time) is on some access devices users will still need Windows to take advantage of the full capabilities of their virtual desktop.

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