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Will 2013 be the year that tablets overtake laptops as the most-shipped type of computer tech? Market watcher NPD DisplaySearch certainly thinks so. It now reckons some 240 million tablets ranging in screen size from 5.6 inches to 13.3 will ship during 2013 - almost 16 per cent more than the 207 million notebooks that will ship …

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Which is funny as there were so many "What are they for" and "they won't catch on" postings on here and other forums when Apple announced the original iPad.

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but

Laptops were supposed to be dead and buried by now, according to the same kind of report this time last year.

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Well the original ipad didn't catch on - all I remember was vast amounts of media hype even before its release about how everyone would be using one, but it turned out to be a bit of a wet blanket, with most people sticking with laptops at home, or (mainly Android) phones as their mobile device. It was only 2 or so years later that they became more mainstream, which wasn't the original ipad, and also along with Android tablets.

And actually yes, I'm sure people are still asking for what they're for, and I'm not sure those who have them can tell us. Just because something sells doesn't mean you can't criticise - you only have to look at the criticisms against Windows on here...

If tablets were so obviously the future, why didn't we get the media coverage from the first Android tablets, actually released around or before Apple's first release?

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Xmas present that'll never be in the present

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Whatever.

Keep your greasy fingers off my display, proles!

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You picked the wrong icon for your fanboy spiel - that contained no technical information whatsoever unless you consider wishful thinking and propaganda to be technical.

Try the gimp next time, gimp boy.

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"As Microsoft killed the Notebook market by putting Windows on the notebooks and barring Linux,"

*Evidence required please.

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I think he's referring to the usual tinfoil-hat brigade's conspiracy theories about netbooks.

Probably even typed it but alas, Android's autocorrect is crap, especially if you regularly ejaculate onto the device you're using.

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"How fun computing is, when MS is not allowed to dominate."

Yeah we might end up with Apple dominating OS and hardware. Great improvement. (You also probably specifically mean the low-cost low-power notebooks, i.e., netbooks in your post.)

Also it's not clear to me how MS are trying to kill tablets, seems like they're quite willing to embrace the new market.

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> Also it's not clear to me how MS are trying to kill tablets, seems like they're quite willing to embrace the new market.

It's not a new market, tablets have been around for a couple of decades. MS has been trying for over 10 years to sell tablet based systems, but Windows and the existing applications were simply not suitable for touch, and x86 is not really suitable for mobile.

But even surface is not really a tablet, it is a netbook with a floppy keyboard, the keyboard/mouse/touchpad is required for legacy software.

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Media consumption devices that are instant-on, pick up and use, long battery life and extremely portable are actually handy for casual use such as as a living room internet device.

Also, those who jumped on the PC craze in the late 90s and the laptop craze in the 2000s and now use a machine for watching videos of cats or posting inane updates to their facebook feed are prime target market for most tablets.

Will tablets follow the monitor and notebook trend and become closer to 'full screen' without the huge borders?

I'll still need a proper notebook for work, though the Asus Transformer gives me a good keyboard for typing emails on the tablet. And I'm building a PC for a media centre. I see PCs/laptops returning to the early to mid 90s phase of a device to do useful work on.

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Will tablets follow the monitor and notebook trend and become closer to 'full screen' without the huge borders?

I hope not, I have a Nook Tablet and I really like the fact it has a nice grippable border around the screen because otherwise how would you hold it without touching the screen and accidentally triggering events?

I like my tablet because it's a fun toy for games, streaming video from shared PC folders and occasionally browsing the web - but it will never replace my main PC or my netbooks & laptop, especially as tablets are geared towards singletasking whilst PCs are good for multitasking.

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Even if all I want to do is post to Facebook or watch videos, a small laptop (or any laptop) is better - I can type easier, and I can just leave it on my lap, rather than awkwardly having to hold it (and the keyboard/stand extensions only seem to work well on a flat surface). And I know I'm not the only one.

I can understand mobile phones being more popular than laptops because everyone has one (where as some laptops may be shared in a family), and people upgrade more often with contracts. I can see that tablets may become more popular when the price is much cheaper (which could be feasible due to fewer parts - no keyboard, etc.)

But I am genuinely confused at the idea that most people would be spending more money on a product that doesn't have advantages, and is often less suitable. I wonder how much is through choice, or people not realising there are alternatives - the media do nothing but harp on about ipads all the time, and in the last couple of months, I've lost track of the number of adverts trying to show people using ipads, even though most people would use laptops or a Android smartphone, both of which more convenient. Meanwhile we have hardly any marketing for low end laptops; and netbooks are being discontinued to make way for only tablets or more expensive ultra-portables.

Whilst I have no interest in ChromeOS, I note it's the only attempt these days to market a low end low cost laptop, so I wish Google good luck.

"I see PCs/laptops returning to the early to mid 90s phase of a device to do useful work on."

Yes, even if this does happen, it's not the death of the PC, as the media love to claim. The 2000s saw a massive growth in consumer PCs for casual use - even if that died down a bit, that doesn't mean no one will be using them.

I also think that tablets face the same risk that netbooks did - once a large growth area as people wanted low cost portable devices, but a few years later, everyone who wants one will have one, and there's no reason to upgrade. For manufacturers, there'll be little profit due to a price war and race to the bottom (already starting to see this), so eventually they'll all cut support, and switch to whatever the next thing with higher profit margins is.

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7 inch tablet is the PC of the future

the 7 inch tablet is the perfect form factor for most common usage of a desktop/laptop/notebook/netbook PC.

I have a big TV and keyboard/mouse in my living room, a little keyboard/mouse in the case when I'm out on business and touchscreen when I'm gaming/surfing/navigating/phoning.

The Nexus 7 moves seamlessly between all these environments and never leaves my side.

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7 inches is definitely more portable but in reality I'd rather use my full size iPad than my wife's iPad Mini - for what I do. She has it to replace a Kindle so for her it's perfect.

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How well does the Nexus 7 work with the keyboard/touchpad on your lap?

What if you want a larger screens - I know wireless casting is coming which could be one solution, but I'm not sure there are options available yet. 7" is fine for casual browsing, but anything from playing games, watching videos to editing code all work so much better on my 17".

Not a criticism against the Nexus 7 - but whilst I think 7" is great for a tablet size, I don't think it's a replacement for laptops.

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Holmes

Who'd've thunk it?

Cheaper things outsell more expensive things.

News at 11.

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I still have a Touchpad from the fire sale.

For a while, HP was the number 1 non-Apple tablet seller!

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Re: Who'd've thunk it?

Not just cheaper things outsell more expensive things, but also:

Newer less widely owned already things outsell thing more people own already and are happy to only replace when it breaks.

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Feasible to have one per person things outsell quite likely to be shared by a family thing.

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The mindless..

...all need a Toylet to drag around with them.

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This fits nicely with what I have told people

For some time, I have been telling friends and family that as soon as there is an alternative to Apple, laptops will take a pounding.

If you need something small to look at stuff, tablets are smaller, lighter and have better battery life than anything running Windows. If you actually have work to do most people are better off with a PC with a good sizes screen and a proper keyboard. Gaming likewise. Small and non-intensive games may work on a tablet. Mega games need a PC or a console.

The laptop used to be the essential for the professional suit wearer but iPads have a higher "cool factor", Laptops are seen by outsiders to be better than iPads (or proper tablets) at such things as content creation but the highly paid are wanting to show their credentials for joining the beautiful people set.

This will not help manufacturers. The most powerful 10" tablets on the UK market are costing as little as £200. The 7" Nexus is £150. If someone does no actually create any content etc - lets save money and give them the iShinyShiny they want!

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