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However uncomfortable, overly expensive and impractical killer heels may be, think again before ditching them for your next night out: new science has proved high-heeled shoes definitely make women look sexy. In the same year CERN boffins found the Higgs Boson in a gigantic underground particle accelerator, an academic study …

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Personally, as a degreed mechanical engineer ...

... I find the entire concept disgusting.

So-called "naughty knickers" work, in context, when applied appropriately ... but heels, fagetaboutit ... too much room for error. I don't find potential permanent damage to my wife's lower extremities attractive. At all.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Personally, as a degreed mechanical engineer ...

You sound more like an Uggs man

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Re: You sound more like an Uggs man

Sure that must constitute a contradiction in terms

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Ug. No, not Uggs. Ariats. (was: Re: Personally, as a degreed mechanical engineer ...)

We run a profitable horse ranch. Proper footwear is important.

However, personally, after all these years, I still prefer her sky-clad :-)

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Re: Personally, as a degreed mechanical engineer ...

"Brainiacs" ? Hey com'on this is Portsmouth we are talking about. You can't be serious, anything in a skirt looks good in Pompy.

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Paris Hilton

Really?????

Seriously.... people get paid for this stuff? I'm In the wrong job!!!!

Paris - the conclusion is so obvious its laughable.

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Re: Really?????

Exactly. What a waste of time. Plus isn't it a subjective outcome? Dependant on the man placing a priority on the traits that are enhanced. Not to mention that high heels are unlikely to help a DTS pull.

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Re: Really?????

They didn't only test how men viewed the wearers of high heels, they used both male and females to view and mark the videos.

Now what I want to know is how they can use point light analysis to prove that adding seamed stockings to the high heels further enhances the effect.

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Re: Really?????

Yeah, but heels don't work in isolation.

The University of Portsmouth could have researched the negative sex-appeal involved in poor choices of clothing, make-up or the lack of intelligence by going down Guildhall Walk or South Parade on a Friday night...!

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Re: Really?????

heels don't work in isolation

All I'm going to say is that you may want to rethink that statement :)

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Re: Really?????

"What a waste of time."

Consider why it was published:

1) it was part of a study of human behaviour, these sorts of things are useful to know in evolutionary studies

2) (most likely) it's a good advertisement for Portsmouth Uni, coincidentally 2 weeks before admission deadlines close (15th Jan), particularly for the Sports & Exercise Science course starting in September.

3) (less likely, but plausible), it's not uncommon for sponsored research work. Wouldn't be at all surprised if I saw Schuh or similar quoting the results.

But of the likeliest options, I'd go with 2, with a mixture of 1.

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Re: Really?????

Re: Seriously.... people get paid for this stuff?

I think you're underestimating the effort required to produce this report.

Spending 2-3 nights a week in bars watching woman in high heels and fending off bouncers is harder than it appears when you have to do it week in and week out for the duration of the study.

And the beer doesn't drink itself...

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Re: Really?????

... seamed stockings and a bow just on the ankle line, works on me, although the last pair I had are too laddered to wear now.

The tragic types who wear high heels to conceal short legs and stalk about leaning forward, all too common where I'm from, ugh!

Crap `study' but lots of interesting comments from commentards! Not tech, but nice to see.

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I'm now officially puzzled

I may be wrong but I seem to recall some research a few years ago that said ladies who "seductively gyrate and swing their hips" while walking are in fact at their least fertile and therefore don't need to "look sexy".

PS Mrs Coat has some 6 inch heels that look rather pleasant.

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I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

I live in a country where flip-flops ar de rigeur, and heels are used only for special occasions, and I can assure you from years of visual research, studying legs on motorcycles, that it is the shape of the leg that matters.

A leg without a well defined ankle, even if shod in a pair of heels, looks like sh*t.

So stuff your science and study the form.

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Re: I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

Wearing High Heels changes the shape of the Calf. The muscles become more defined and the overall proportions improve (IMHO).

As a male who sometimes wears heels (to please Mrs A/C I can assure you) I know the above from firsthand. It is not only men who appreciate the shape of womens legs & heels. Mrs A/C does as well. However there is (in our opinions) an optimum height of heel for each person. For a small person, 6in heels look silly and even cartoonish. However for a tall person (over 6ft) they don't yet there is a lot of pressure for tall women to wear flats so they don't appear taller than their partner. Well that might not be true for a certain Mr B Ecclestone (of F1). Many Men are so fickle aren't they? (Mrs A/C is taller than me in bare feet and I don't care)

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Re: relative heel height

The choice of heel height is probably more to do with foot size.

A lady with small delicate feet can not wear a 6" heel without a hideously thick platform sole, if they were to try they'd need to on point like a ballerina. More statuesque ladies are more likely to have longer feet, just as they are likely to have longer legs and everything else, so a greater fall can be accommodated in their foot wear.

In terms of attractiveness, then practising in one's heels is most important. If ladies wear higher heels than they can comfortably cope with then they loose all poise and end up walking like some mutant wading bird, which alas is not in the slightest bit seemly.

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Re: I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

Cannot believe some eejit gave you a thumbs down. So what if your missus likes you in heels, if you get more sex out it job done. Thumbs up from me mate.

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Re: relative heel height

While the science is from the funny type there article clearly says 6cm, not 6 inches.

6cm is acceptable for most grown up females and not so torturing as 6".

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Re: relative heel height

No you got the conversion wrong due to a reference frame error. 6 women centimeters = 6 man inches and any woman who tells you 6cm is accepatble is being kind to you.

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Re: relative heel height

"torturing as 6 inch"

Depends on the wearer. I know a few who practically live in 5", but they are former ballerinas and if they walk during the summertimes in heels and skirt the risk of road accidents goes up dramatically (they're also the few that I know that can walk gracefully on 6" - don't ask me how they manage but it looks delicious).

It's a simple fact that not everyone can walk on such heels.

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I disagree, it's the gait.

Agreed. As an occasional crossdresser, wearing a moderate amount of heel is an important component of misdirection (i.e. making other people not notice I'm not actually a woman). Not only is the body shape when standing altered, you have to rotate your hips and keep a better upper body balance to avoid falling over when walking. It may or may not be "sexy", but it certainly prevents the typical masculine stompiness.

But it doesn't need a published study to tell us this. Suggest it's a slow news day, so filling space with a pre-written press release/article from the University of the Bleeding Obvious.

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Re: I disagree, it's the gait.

> making other people not notice I'm not actually a woman

You think?

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Re: I disagree, it's the gait.

I get some nice comments from my female friends about how good my legs look in heels. Mrs A/C (From above) agrees but makes sure she is the only one wearing heels in Public (most of the time).

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6cm is accepatble

@xyz, nice one :).

I clearly recall a girl saying that 6cm is enough and the rest is just greed however I can also vouch that women like it bigger for pure aesthetic pleasure.

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My girlfriend wears some 5" (11cm actually) at work (office, no she is not a dancer) but walking on high stilettos takes flat surface. Pavement and the likes are the torture.

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Size fish heel

In terms of heel "rating" the heel height is based on a standard shoe size (I think it's something 6 in the USA, so UK 4) so the shape of the foot should actually be consistent in the same model of shoe in all sizes. So, yes, I'd expect a difference with actual heel height, but not in the same make of shoe.

I think a 5" rated heel is my personal taste limit. 3 1/2" rated heel is my wife's walking limit. 2" rated heel is now my wife's limit to wear them for an extended period.

I don't know how I'd have answered the test since they didn't see the actual shoe. Chunky heels do less than nothing for me, while sculpted stiletto heels do way too much.

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Re: says 6cm, not 6 inches.

I thought the ladies said 6 inches was the opening bid, and anyone offering 6cm would be laughed at by everyone in the room.

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Re: I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

It's that change to the shape and definition of the calf that makes me prefer seeing women in flat shoes (or bare feet) --- I know the calf I'm seeing is the real thing, and not a trick!

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Re: I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

There is a pottery shard from ancient Greecd bearing the words `I hate a woman thick about the ankles'. Since reding it the first time, always had resonance here.

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Re: I disagree, it's the legs not the shoes

"de rigUeur"

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Circular reasoning?

I just wonder how it is that the particular gait came to be seen as sexy in the first place.

It's possible that the exaggerated hip movements can be traced back to apes, but I think it's a stretch. I think modern culture has a huge amount of invented sexual signalling, depending on the movies, and stage performance before that, and a lot of it is essentially a caricature. We're being presented with a world of sexual availabilily signalled by high heels and breast implants. For the stage, at least, there was always exaggeration of body and facial language.

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Re: Circular reasoning?

I believe heels became sexy round the same time London was flooding with shit and other undesirables on roads during the 1800's. They were practacle back then to keep crap from tarnishing your dress. Rich women wore them, people wanted to be rich or be with rich people.

Of course I could be completely batshit wrong about this. Here's a Wikipedia article for those interested enough to keep reading, but not interested enough to find material on the subject.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_footwear

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Re: Circular reasoning?

@Dave Bell

Absolutely. The researchers also made that point.

"There is a strong contemporary association between high heels and female sexuality."

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exaggerated gait, aura of helplessness [was: Circular reasoning?]

Some theories I've heard (not that I've researched the subject in depth, mind) are the exaggeration of curves (hip sway when walking, butt lifted up a bit, calf muscles stand out more), and the idea that whoever is wearing them is vulnerable -- less easy to get away, on less steady footing than if wearing trucker boots, et cetera. Given that once upon a time high-born gentlemen wore high heels and would certainly not have done so if they thought such shoes projected an aura of helplessness, I have questions about the second theory but given some of the batshit crazy heels I've seen some bimbos tottering around in I can't dismiss it outright.

<-- I believe some of our favorite historical pirates were not adverse to a bit of heel on their boots, yarrrr!

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Re: exaggerated gait, aura of helplessness [was: Circular reasoning?]

Men wearing higher heels in 1600s and 1700s were telling the world (1) they did not need to walk far 920 they did not need to work. Gentlemen wore heels.

Woemn wear heels partly to show they are vulnerable: being weaker is part of the concept of femininity. Most 'sexy' outfits emphasise this. One of the reasons women were hobbled for had their feet bound was to make them helpless.

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Re: Circular reasoning?

The problem with this hypothesis is that high heels only keep the heel out of the muck. AFAIK the usual footwear for staying above wet and muck was the patten - a kind of overshoe that raises the whole foot.

I'm sure rich women didn't wear special footwear to keep their skirts clean. Part of the point of extravagant dress such as long skirts is to show that you're rich enough to have somebody else to clean your clothes and rich enough not to be very bothered about replacing them. Lord Byron apparently wore white linen trousers that he threw away after one wearing. I bet his lady friends were even more extravagant.

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Re: Circular reasoning?

decades of targeted social conditioning and subliminal media brainwashing

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Just as well you qualified it (Ladies)

otherwise I would have been tempted to give it a go.

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Just true

Very old indeed, but many years ago there was this assumption that intelligent women use lover heels. Try Russia and you will be better informed.

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I don't understand why this is considered 'new' research.

The film 'Kinky Boots' gave a concise reason for the appeal of high heels; To wit: "That they presented the buttocks in away that indicated the female was available for breeding"

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"We isolated the effects of heels on gait using point-light methodology. Females were recorded walking in flat shoes and high heels."

Someone in another forum suggested that the researchers should have controlled the experiment by including men wearing the same heels. The point-light method would hide the walker's other sex indicators.

If the results favoured those wearing high heels, of either sex, then it would suggest that it was a cultural artefact rather than a basic difference in male/female physiology.

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In other news

Some men like to think of women as people, not objects.

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I'll not be commiting myself...

... until Service Pack 1, on any mission-critical systems.

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Oops, sorry, mixing up my in-depth, detailed reports from the Department of the Bleedin' Obvious there.

Anyway, I thought that high heels gave a longer stride, not a faster pitter-patter Essex girl trot... (at least that's what I guess they're saying from the bits with pictures). For a control, they should've at least visited a range of theatres showing "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" and observed all the lads from local rugby teams dressed as Frank. Again, risks a punch in the face, but that's no less than they deserve for their efforts.

《《 this would have been the Sherlock icon if the m.forums site let us pick them...

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neither new nor original

There's been quite a few studies like this over the past decade or two, usually by promovendi from the fuzzy sector, and they all come to the same conclusion: high heels make women appear to be more sexy.

Absolutely not surprising, given that high heels, as mentioned in previous posts, do indeed change the shape of the leg, making it appear longer, emphasising the calf, thigh, and buttocks, which are simple biological sexual/fitness markers.

That in itself would still not amount to much, since they are only subtle secondary markers. High heels, however, also force an upright posture with "tits and ass out" and a gait that is usually referred to as a "strut". Both posture and gait are things that women tend to do naturally by design, but especially when they are out hunting and up to mischief. Absolutely no heels needed there. Physics and evolution made them that way, and the same mechanism makes us blokes pay attention.

The sad part about the cultural aspect here is that in most cultures this quite appealing behaviour is rigorously (and sometimes violently) suppressed as "inappropriate".

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FAIL

looking at our medal haul at the Olympics

And speaking as someone with a degree in sport science i would suggest the author might need to rethink his comments on the field.

I guess that's the problem with tech writers, if you can't do it, denigrate it.

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Re: looking at our medal haul at the Olympics

Well, maybe snarking on Sports Science is probably unfair. But Evo-Psych has become a cesspit of sexism, self-reinforcement, and just-so-stories.

It may once have had some respect as a "soft-science" but it lost every last shred of that a long time ago, largely due to "research" such as this.

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Germaine Greer

calls them fuck-me shoes.

who funded this scientific study?

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