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VMware suffered a cacophony of complaints over its pricing for its software in 2011, and as part of the latest round of product launches this summer the company moved away from per-VM or VRAM capacity pricing as customers wanted. But to get the more attractive pricing, you have to buy a whole bundle of cloudy tools, called the …

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When

Does the cost of all this just get ridiculous? If I want the full menu on a 2 socket server, I need to shell out over $22,000 ? Per box? I have a lot of boxes. Plus the cost of the OS's and maintenance for it all is never mentioned in the marketing fluff. Wait, I need lots of servers just to run the management junk in addition to the workload servers. So, the cost is even higher. Plus, there are tons of vendors selling add-ons to cover the holes in the software, so I really need to spend more. Man.. what a money pit.... If I was a CIO looking at the bill for all this, I'd be searching for alternatives, pronto....Oh, wait, I get it now. This is a back room plot to send people running to free CloudStack, OpenStack, et al. Crafty.

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Yep, been there myself

VMWare has a pricing depending on the number of sockets, allocatable memory, functionality, etc. RedHat Enterprise Virtualization, in many ways better than VMWare, prices on the number of CPU sockets. Canonical/Ubuntu prices by the motherboard, and you can still do KVM there.

What speaks against replacing VMWare with Canonical's Landscape?

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Re: When

When does the cost of all this just get ridiculous?

You have to ask yourself why you're doing virtualisation. Is it to save money by having fewer (physical) servers ? Is it to save money by having fewer servers to run ? Is it to save space ? Is it to run old software that you can't run on modern hardware ? Is it to make managing your servers easier ? Is it because some software will only run under virtualisation ?

Only once you've factored these, and more, into your cost calculations, can you decide if this expensive software stack is worth the money.

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Hyper V

Starts to look good now.

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Re: Hyper V

Hyper V starts to look good now.

Just make sure you compare oranges with oranges and include all the management tools that are part of the VMware package too.

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Re: Hyper V

In Academia you buy Windows Server Data Centre + System Centre Data Centre per dual sockets (at approx £300/year) This includes SCVMM (appox equivalent to vCloud Director), Orchestrator, Backup (DPM), a Service Desk, Monitoring (Ops Manager), VDI, etc etc. Given that you're likely to licence your VMware infrastructure for all this anyway if you're running Windows Servers, then HyperV is very very cheap. VMware Academic pricing is no where near as aggressive at present.

We're VMware at the moment, but for how long?

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cripplingly expensive. virtualise my SA's and we have a deal?

actually, we're running it on a few R720's and the discount is as good as 45%, and our volume is piddly, its just dev kit.

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