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Depending on how you might want to look at it, the ViewSonic VSD220 is either an expensive 22in monitor or an inexpensive tethered Android tablet. But then you'd be missing the point: it's actually both and neither. It's an unusual mashup for which ViewSonic deserves credit simply by giving it a go. ViewSonic VSD220 Android AIO …

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Happy

Wow!

Let's see you get THAT bastard in your pocket! :-)

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Never mind in the pocket, I want to see somebody making a call on one. Yes, trailing a mains cable from their ear.

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Excellent for those who are long sighted and struggle with a 4inch screen.

Seriously though what an interesting device and the price is £314.50 on lambdatek. I think there are going to be a raft of these things coming with android. Now I wonder if it can be rooted and Linux installed ?

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Re: Wow!

I wonder if this is spill resistant... been looking for something like this to build into our coffee table for some time now. Would be nice mounted on the wall in the kitchen too.

...and yes I know I'm a huge nerd.

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This may be for me. The vomit removal department have threatened confiscation of my keyboard.

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The optical sensor often picks up your finger proximity ...

reminds me of an early HP screen that used a matrix of IR emitters and detectors to determine the position of an operator finger. When an operator touched the screen, a pair of IR beams, one in either axis, would be broken and the appropriate action would be triggered.

Obviously, in the development labs in California, HP has a paucity of flies and other pests that are attracted to bright screens.

We were in an area where air-con was not needed, with fans quite sufficient to cool the staff, who also left the windows open. Flies and other multi-legged objects would land on the HP screens and go walkabout, which caused the systems to malfunction.

It took some time to determine the reason for the erratic operation, let's hope Viewsonic technology has overcome this hazard.

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Re: The optical sensor often picks up your finger proximity ...

I'm rather confused - the table of features claims capacitive touchscreen but the text mentions optical sensors - which is it ?

(The optical sensor often picks up your finger proximity without you actually having to touch the screen)

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Re: The optical sensor often picks up your finger proximity ...

Even some capacitive screens can pick up your finger proximity without touching it. My Asus transformer does this and it's kind of annoying.

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Codecs?

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...are downloadable.

Next!

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Would make a good thin client too.

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This looking interesting...I am holding off the win8 "upgrade", because I want to retrofit a touch monitor onto the games rig first. Afterall, would be a shame to pay for metro and not use it as intended?

Just a pity it's only 22"/1900x1080 - a 27" with 2500x1600 would be perfect.

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A 22" with 1200 lines would be adequate.

Just over 9 years ago I had a very nice 21" 4:3 LCD with 1200 lines on my desk at work. Still waiting for something as good to be cheap enough to have at home.

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A quick look at HotUKdeals suggests that 23" 1920x1080 16:9 IPS monitors often drop to around the £150 mark, whereas Dell Ultrasharps 24" 1920x1200 16:10 IPS screens don't drop much below £250.

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No rear facing camera?

That's a deal breaker for me!

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Freeview?? catchuptv app should sort that.

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>>Referring to it as a "22in tablet" is just silly: as Chromebooks have ably demonstrated, just because a computer runs Android doesn't mean it's a toy.<<

Chromebooks don't run android, they run Chrome OS. It's not the same thing.

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Family kiosk

This is definitely interesting. For several years now we've had an HTPC machine (Shuttle now ION ITX) hooked up to our lounge TV and it's super-convenient for just switching over to look something up on the internet. But I was finding we still had a laptop plugged in somewhere most of the time, with the HTPC ending up being used purely for film, recorded TV and music playback through the surround sound. I was thinking of getting a battle Nexus 7 just to have kicking around the place but something like this somewhere could also be a good option.

If there was an HDMI touchscreen that was about 5"-7" in size, with no Android gubbins, but the same cost/size as a Nexus, then that would be great for some Raspberry Pi projects I've got in mind.

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The monitors in your desired size - 5"-7" - tend to use USB for power, signal, and optionally, human input. I've been tempted by them as a way of clearing tool palettes off my main screen, but they don't seem to be great value compared to cheaper tablets, or even a budget 15" monitor.

I like the way this Viewsonic device can function as a vanilla monitor... being able to use 10" IPS tablets in this way is something that would add value to me as a second screen for my laptop, especially the devices with a silly number of pixels from Google or Apple. There are some WiFi + software solutions to accomplish the same, but a cable seems so much easier.

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If you just want to access the internet/watch movies and stuff do you really need a device with a touch screen? Try looking at the various android "dongles" you can get, just attach an hdmi cable and use a remote. I can recommend the one from sumvsion, nano slim+ or something.

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Just a few changes needed

I'd enjoy using this with a USB keyboard and mouse attached - cheap and easy, not a problem. For public use, as a kiosk style terminal, it could do with some device above the screen that sprays and wipes every ten minutes or so. I don't touch my Asus Transformer screen often, but it's still covered in gunge.

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"surely has plenty of potential in the big wide world."

Not really.

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You just need to open your eyes.

Was walking round a trade show a couple of weeks ago, and plenty of stands had iPads, laptops, TVs hooked up to DVD players and PCs hooked up to monitors, nearly all being used to display videos or photographs. All of which could be replaced by a single unit like this.

Bigger than an iPad, no keyboard like a laptop, no need for DVD/TV or PC/Monitor combos.

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thesykes....

How did they have the iPads hooked up the DVD players? Is it possible to use them as a wired monitor, or had they accomplished it over WiFi?

This Viewsonic device is interesting, but if one doesn't mind a couple of extra cables, there are plenty of cheap ARM devices that could be coupled with a far cheaper 23" touchscreen monitor.

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DVD players hooked up to TVs

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Toys

Chromebooks aren't toys?

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>Chromebooks aren't toys?

No more than an Olivetti typewriter is a toy, or an 8086 running a spreadsheet. Many people can accomplish productive tasks on them, depending upon their job- not everyone is a software developer, video editor, or geologist. Can you give us your definitions of 'toy' and 'tool'?

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Now, there's a thing

I've been looking to "upgrade" my aging, but still excellent, 20" VS monitor I use as a secondary to the 30" main monitor - this would do nicely

Mmm, Christmas is coming, and after all the shopping I've done so far for other people, it may just be my turn...

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2nd TV

I've been looking to get a 2nd TV in the breakfast room recently and looking at Smart TVs in particular, but this would be perfect, mounted on the wall, but would it be possible to, for instance, hook up a FreeSat box or something?

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It's got a HDMI input, so a I don't see why you couldn't hook up a FreeSat or FreeView box to it: that was my thought when I saw it...

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The only missed opportunity I can see is the lack of a second video input - would be great if you could switch between Tablet, PC and FreeSat display without messing with wires...

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battery / power?

The review isn't clear. Is there any battery or is it purely externally powered?

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Re: battery / power?

Main-powered only. It's not a tablet.

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Interesting...

For a "General Purpose" computer I reckon this sort of machine has a good chance of succeeding. You won't multitask as much as a power computer user; but for general stuff it's probably quite good. Very few viruses to worry about. Easy to install stuff - except printers of course but hey it's paperless office time!

Given people currently have a good familiarity with Android compared to Windows 8; if this product gets off the ground in time it could make a dent in Win8 sales.

Good on 'em :)

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Paperless office... hehe, it's still not here, but I must admit that tablets and phones have reduced my domestic printing... I might use a tablet for showing off photos, or use my phone for navigation rather than print a list of directions before leaving the house.

You can print from Android devices if you have a PC or server left on in your house, or a compatible printer.

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Want one.

I can think of loads of uses for this. CCTV viewer at work would be one. But basically I want one in the kitchen - TV and Radio for cooking when the cricket is on, viewing recipes online, displaying photos at a decent resolution.

Just a few odd things with the spec - why microSD? No room for a full size SD slot?

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Me too, espesh if they come down to a magic £299.99 price point.

TVHGuide + TVHeadend for the telly; Google Music/Spotify/etal for music; Youtube for other video.

Although I'm interested to see if/how quickly it gets rooted to hopefully avoid being "stuck" at 4.0.

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Patent pending :)

Take one table, one router, cut hole and sink this into it. It will need some sort of software screen rotation control. Also all power volume controls need to be front facing.

I'm calling it the iNexus

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Re: Patent pending :)

Even if the volume controls are side-mounted, I'm sure you can incorporate a sliver of plastic - about the size of a stick of chewing-gum- into your design, to allow the buttons to be operated from above.

Rather than mess up a table, it might be easier to have a work-surface CNC milled to your specification. A local timber supplier charges about £100 per hour, but a job like this would take minutes.

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>Take one table, one router

[WTF???]

Oh.. *that* kind of router

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I wonder what the battery life is?

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The amazon link in the article is spurious.

God, I want one of these...must buy, must buy!

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Perfect in the kitchen.

Superb. I have been waiting for something like this .

Stick it on a wall, or cupboard. Plug in mains and wifi (or HomePlug).

Internet, Mail, Movies (?) Recipes etc etc.

No keyboard, no mouse, no blasted anti-virus or o/s updates.

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Nice

Wonder what the sensitivity is like though?

Can think of an ideal use for it - as a touchpad for PhotoShop (other graphics programmes also available). Being able to look at the image as you draw on it, rather than the slightly disjointed feel using my Wacom tablet would be fantastic.

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You might still have a slightly disjointed feeling, depending on how close the screen is to the glass surface. It may well work quite well, but I just have a feeling that it hasn't been tuned for this job. Wacom devices and others use a slightly textured screen, so your stylus doesn't skitter around like a spaniel on an ice rink. That said, they much more expensive than this Viewsonic device.

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smart glass potential

is smart glass on the goog store yet

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Did I miss the price? and Freeview....

Did I blind spot the price on this beast, or perhaps does the price only show on the non-print version (Sorry Reg, when I see a multipage article I go straight to the Print version - STOP MAKING ME SCREW AROUND WITH MULTI PAGE ARTICLES).

And as for Freeview - since this has USB master capability, in theory somebody could just write an app to talk to a USB Freeview tuner (at least Freeview is MPEG4 IIRC, and will thus be something this can do hardware decode. Unfortunately, ATSC is MPEG2 and I have yet to see an Android device with hardware accel for MPEG2).

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@David Hagood. Re: Print version

I've been coming here for years, and that's a new one on me.

Thanks.

Have a little drinkypoo, and a thumb up. ;o)

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