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Chinese smartphone makers managed to force Apple out of the top five in their domestic market in Q3 and account for an increasingly sizeable chunk of global shipments, according to the latest stats from analyst Canalys. The firm’s soon-to-be-released Q3 2012 country-level estimates saw the fruity tech titan displaced, with …

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Even the most brainwashed iSheep can see the pattern now

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/07/peak-apple

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Re: Even the most brainwashed iSheep can see the pattern now

Nice one Bob.

An article by Dan Crow (Who he?) in that well-known journal of technical excellence, The Grauniad, confirms that you are one of the elite cognoscenti, and anyone with the temerity to think differently is a sheep.

Great stuff!

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Re: Even the most brainwashed iSheep can see the pattern now

Better stock up on ammo - there's truckloads more messengers need shooting:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/08/canalys_q3_china_apple_sixth_place/

http://gulfnews.com/business/media-marketing/android-now-has-as-many-apps-as-ios-report-1.1100553

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57546777-37/bond-guru-predicts-apples-stock-price-will-fall-to-$425/

http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Android%2Cios&relative=1&relative=1

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Re: Even the most brainwashed iSheep can see the pattern now

Erm, isn't it fairly obvious that Apple's market share by volume is only going to go down?

The Samsung vs Apple is a bit like saying Audi vs Ferrari. Since Audi cover the whole market (competing with Ferrari only with the R8), of course they have higher sales. If you are including the Kias and Tatas of the smartphone world, of course they are selling a lot more volume. Why is this news? And why do some people seem to insist on equating volume with quality / desirability?

*And please note that comparisons to car brands are intended to correlate to market sector operated in, NOT to teh quality, perceived or otherwise of any phone*

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So

The recession has even hit China, people economising by buying cheaper phones.....

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Re: So

Cheaper or better value?

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WTF?

@Ted Treen

"...anyone with the temerity to think differently..."

Hey come on this is Apple's punch line... How exactly are you thinking at all?

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Re: @ Tchou (@Ted Treen)

Evidently, I'm thinking rather more effectively than you, sir.

"Think different" not "Think differently" was an Apple slogan. Some years ago.

It really never ceases to amaze me that the anti-Apple mouth-foamers delight in pointing out that in smartphones, Apples marketshare is <30%, and in computers, <20%. Yet they claim that those who purchase a minority product are sheep.

Now let me get to grips with this idea...

The minority who purchase Apple products are sheep, and the majority who go along with what they consider 'mainstream products' are rugged individualists.

Go along with the crowd/majority, and you're an individualist: be part of a minority, and you're a sheep.

Well it looks like Orwell was correct in his writing regarding Newspeak. Evidently "War IS peace", "Freedom IS slavery" and "Ignorance IS strength".

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Re: @ Tchou (@Ted Treen)

To say the truth im not anti-apple at all, they do great products altought a bit pricey for my taste.

What amaze me however is this claim of being/thinking "different/differently".

Please don't be picky with my english im not a native speaker.

Cheers!

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Re: @ Tchou (@Ted Treen)

"Think different" not "Think differently" was an Apple slogan.

I take it that their grammar checker was written by the same lads who did their maps application then?

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Re: @ Tchou (@Ted Treen)

You may well be right, Sir!

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Apple losers

In such a price sensitive market, premium prices will only sell so much.

BTW, where can we buy this Yulong products in UK ? $100 to 150 range looks too good miss.

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Re: Apple losers

They are sold in China only, but being Windows CE 6.0 I wouldn't consider buying on those anyway

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The lack of a TD-SCDMA phone for China Mobile is a big factor

But beyond that, Apple is never going to have a large share in China because of its price. The GS3 isn't going to have a large share there either for the same reason (but the various low end phones Samsung makes in China may)

Consider that China's smartphone market has a ways to grow because today even the cheapest smartphone is more expensive than feature phones, but eventually the feature phone market will disappear as they can make smartphones cheaper and cheaper to where the price difference between smart and feature becomes insignificant.

Who is going to sell all those smartphones that displace feature phones? Certainly not Apple with it's high end pricing. Nor Samsung, at least not with the GS3/Note2 class of phones. Almost all of them will be Chinese companies we never heard of, who make the salaries paid to the iPhone assemblers seem like millionaire wages. They'll run Android, but have all the Google bits hacked out of it, using various Chinese services (this is already being done on almost all the Android phones sold in China by Chinese companies)

So Apple's share will continue to drop, but it won't mean they are selling fewer phones in China, just that they are selling a smaller percentage of a much larger market.

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Anonymous Coward

Pics please

Be nice to see what these, previously unheard of, devices look like?

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There is a massive marketing oppo here....

The new Yulong 'Love ^ Time'.

What's not to like?

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"Yet they claim that those who purchase a minority product are sheep."

Sheep being a herd animal tend to follow other sheep. This tendency to follow other sheep does not depend on the sheep being in a majority.

@diadomraz: You're probably looking at their english-language website which has a copyright notice dated 2008-2010 (which probably suggests it hasn't been updated since 2010) and interestingly is hosted on a dot cn domain. Their chinese-language website (hosted on a dot com domain) lists android based models, and they've future proofed it by having a copyright notice dated 2012-2020.

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