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Some of the big takeovers in the pay TV arena have taken analysts by surprise, but that will not be the case if, as looks increasingly likely, Microsoft tables a bid for Netflix. We all know where the rumour began, with the announcement early in October that Netflix CEO Reed Hastings was standing down from his other big role as …

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activist investor

Between the strip miner and Microsoft Netflix may be toast.

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Re: activist investor.. Thanks, Tom, for giving me some humor today... :-)

Not to pick on your grammar, but to point out the fun when commas are not present, this is all...

Earlier, I was thinking a merger would result in a "Microsoft Netflix". So, when I saw your post, my mind stumbled, and I decided that you are implying toast exists between two parties: the strip-mining investors (a term I like and had not heard nor recalled until today) and the potential entity Microsoft-Netflix.

So, again, I am only thanking you for giving me humor (in my so far long and mundane day today) to laugh at myself and thank those nuns back in the early 80s for their insistence on proper punctuation. But, as we know, English rules are hell on all kinds of people at times.

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !

Please, please tell me it won't be so.

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This could have its advantages...

If this happens then maybe, just maybe Microsoft will have the clout to secure more i.p for netflix outside the U.S..

I recently did the dns hack for UK netflix and was amazed and appalled at how much better the u.s and Canadian netflix is. There must be 10 times as much material on there including more recent film releases, a LOT of full tv series and documentaries such as every episode of every startrek series and puzzlingly, more British tv shows.

The uk one really is a rip off when you see what the yanks get for the same price.

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This could work

I'm currently working through Breaking Bad on my Xbox via Netflix and have to say the service is fantastic although as Mickey Mouse points out the material available is a bit lacking at the moment. If the rumours are true about another (higher) tier of Xbox membership then including Netflix would work quite nicely in my opinion.

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Only if...

They fire Balmer first !

Noooooooooooooooooooo Don't take my beloved netflix!

Watch MS fuck it up.... move the whole platform to silverlight. then make it so it's Xbox only and completely screw up the content.

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Re: Only if...

I think it already IS silverlight. At least on Windows it is.

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Re: Only if...

Netflix is already Silverlight?

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Re: Only if...

Yep, it is. Just right click on a running video and see for yourself.

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Could be a good move for MSFT

And for the consumer. Microsoft needs a good library of streamed content for its new devices, and it needs this quickly. Google isn't going to rush to do this (they sell Nexus) and nor would Amazon with Love Film (Kindle Fire HD). Nexflix probably would, eventually, but eventually isn't enough. From a consumer perspective (i.e. this consumer who watches Netflix on laptop, smart TV and Nexus 7), I wouldn't see anything malign about Microsoft buying Nexflix; unless they ended up being complete idiots about it.

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Microsoft to buy another dying company

The music industry is basically dead because of the way record labels handled, or didn't handle, advances in technology and a shift in user / customer habits.

The film industry is putting up a slightly better fight but ultimately heading the same way because it's still trying to maintain a closed market were the product has to be sold at a premium because of limitations on customer numbers that the industry has created itself, in other words the industry is killing itself.

Companies like Netflix, Sky etc buying exclusive rights to content for their customer base creates the illusion of choice, but you will only have a complete choice if you sign up to every single content providing service... AOL tried to create an internet within an internet and failed because people want choice, another example would be a supermarket, they have killed 'corner shops' because they offer everything at an affordable price.

When will people realize that exclusivity is dead, ring fence your product so you can sell it at a premium, or offer it to everyone. £5 x 1000 is £5k, £1 x 1000000 is £1m, Less really is more.

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Having all their eggs in one basket they are an easy target for greedy content companies. Your making money, give it to us!

Disney just added some of their crappier movies to the Canadian Play store. You can now "buy" Cars 2 but the download costs more then the DVD/Blu Ray combo at Amazon. That's just stupid, it's also typical.

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It is a problem to have all their eggs in one basket, so remove the basket. I thought the aim of the industry was to reach as many people as possible, so only distributing their content via exclusive deals with specific vendors instantly limits the viewing figure to a maximum of 100% of the customer base of that vendor, which means that to make any profit they need to charge a premium for the content, which again alienates some of that vendors customer base.

Meanwhile technology is changing the way people access media, some would argue already has changed it. But instead of using these changes to improve the industry, they are seeing it as a threat because they're unwilling to change their operating model, then taking steps to quash the technological advancement, it's well known that negative change is short lived and positive change will usually win, which is why I think in the next 10 years companies like Netflix and Lovefilm etc which seem to be seen as the 'future' of media, threatening the likes of Sky, Cable and traditional 'TV Guide' services are themselves going to die out.

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"The music industry is basically dead because of the way record labels handled, or didn't handle, advances in technology and a shift in user / customer habits."

You mean not paying for stuff?

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No... by gaining a shift in selective habits

Previously record companies could get away with selling albums with two or three new songs amongst 15 others which they have released on previous albums and inevitably the "Greatest Hits" albums which contained 100% previously released material. The ability to purchase single mp3's effectively ended that. Customers simply need to buy the three new singles as opposed to paying for an entire album. Essentially record companies who were more than happy to screw over their customers have now found that those same customers are no longer willing and now have the means to avoid being screwed by those same record companies. There will always be those fans who will buy all albums regardless but they are by far in the minority, most will use a mix and match of their already purchased songs to recreate the new albums.

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Re: Microsoft to buy another dying company

More likely a shift in production from "someone with a good musical idea and the skill to implement, partnered with a PR label" to "fixed format talent shows where the corporate reuses old material and floods advertising, media and talk show channels to get their choice of performer to the top of the charts."

The labels & marketing got too strong. Kids started playing computer games and spending time on facebook.

When was the last time you saw an amusing & witty music video or even one that told any kind of interesting story?

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Many acquisitions are done for specific reasons and in most cases it's not out of concern for the welfare of the acquisitioned company. It most cases it's to acquire specific items or technologies or the talent that created them to be absorbed into the companies own product lines, for example Visio was acquired and it's object drawing application was moved into the Office Products line. Hotmail was absorbed and rebranded into MSN hotmail, and now is the email core of Windows Live services.

In other cases an acquisitions sole purpose is to remove the competition which usually had better technologies, which I will give you they tended to do quite a bit and as the saying went.. "If you can't beat them.. Buy them". They did however for the most part buy the companies for the better technologies they had, not just to stop them as competition.

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"Absorbed"...

Sounds so.... Kind, generic, neutral.

I say, those companies were Borged, but more than simply assIMILATED. They were assIMMOLATED - beyond reconstitution or resuscitation.

I wonder how many Borged companies stripped of their core distinctiveness are given the option to spin off and survive, minus a few limbs. It would be a kinder, slower, possibly less agonizing death. But, kindness is irrelevant to many razing and marauding companies. They assimilate, the strip, then seem to often sit on any other tech, hoping to capitalize on the regurgitation, detritus, or flotsam.

Sad.

(Yes, I guess sadness is irrelevant...)

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In case you haven't noticed, Microsoft is back.

All this kiss of death nonesense is meaningless. No question Microsoft wanked 10 years away and lost their grip on the baton. To imagine they learned nothing from that experience is pure fantasy on your part. Microsoft is doing a very good job of things these days and while failure of course is still possible, you may find yourself very surprised in the coming months when Windows 8 actually grabs some traction as well as phones and tablets. This new ecosystem is very viable and Microsoft is pushing forward with a verocity they haven't shown since the mid-90's. You can continue to judge them with your, albeit well earned, negativity but they aren't looking back and if you continue to cast your gaze to the rear you may find yourself getting passed by.

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Makes sense for MS, as there won't be another version of Windows after 8, just a thin client into MS's stormy cloud.

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Damn

I really liked Netflix.

But Microsoft does NOT get money from me. Ever.

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Face: Say goodbye to nose...

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